Re: definitions of free

2004-07-02 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-07-02 22:28:54 +0100 Zenaan Harkness <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Question: what would it take to provide to the user the option to choose "FSF Free" as well as "DFSG Free" (and perhaps "OSI") as the set of packages they wish to install? Add to apt and friends some way to categorise pac

Re: definitions of free

2004-07-02 Thread Josh Triplett
Francesco Poli wrote: > On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 17:57:57 -0400 Michael Poole wrote: >>The policy work involves the actual identification of freeness. >>DFSG-free is a (I believe strict) subset of OSI-free, and probably a >>superset of FSF-free. > > I don't think that DFSG-free is a superset of FSF-fre

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Re: definitions of free

2004-07-02 Thread Zenaan Harkness
On Sat, 2004-07-03 at 07:57, Michael Poole wrote: > Zenaan Harkness writes: > > > Assumption: There will forever be different definitions of free. > > > > Question: what would it take to provide to the user the option to choose > > "FSF Free" as well as "DFSG Free" (and perhaps "OSI") as the set o

Re: definitions of free

2004-07-02 Thread Francesco Poli
On Fri, 02 Jul 2004 17:57:57 -0400 Michael Poole wrote: > The policy work involves the actual identification of freeness. > DFSG-free is a (I believe strict) subset of OSI-free, and probably a > superset of FSF-free. I don't think that DFSG-free is a superset of FSF-free. For non-programs there i

Re: definitions of free

2004-07-02 Thread Michael Poole
Zenaan Harkness writes: > Assumption: There will forever be different definitions of free. > > Question: what would it take to provide to the user the option to choose > "FSF Free" as well as "DFSG Free" (and perhaps "OSI") as the set of > packages they wish to install? What would be the specific

definitions of free

2004-07-02 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Assumption: There will forever be different definitions of free. Question: what would it take to provide to the user the option to choose "FSF Free" as well as "DFSG Free" (and perhaps "OSI") as the set of packages they wish to install? tia zenaan

Re: Licening ibwebadmin and JSRS

2004-07-02 Thread Remco Seesink
Hello, How about this: Both options don't require you to change anything about the rest of the software you distribute. The problem is solved if you reply, pick an option and give permission to use the software and future version under the license of choice. First option: Dual licensing under th

Re: request-tracker3: license shadiness

2004-07-02 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Andrew Stribblehill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Jesse, the upstream developer of RT3 assures me that they have no > intention of stealing the copyright on code that hasn't been > intentionally given to them for the purpose of inclusion in RT. He's > in consultation with Best Practical's lawyers

Re: Contracts and licenses

2004-07-02 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
"Lex Spoon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> > Sending one email is not free for me, I pay $ per month to send email, >> > receive email, and browse web pages. There may be no incremental cost >> > associated with sending one email, but there is still a cost. (Therefore >> > it's not free, so I do

Re: Re: Licening ibwebadmin and JSRS

2004-07-02 Thread Remco Seesink
>What exactly is this trying to require? I can see several things: > >1) You may not change the license on this code. This is a no-op; > I have no standing to do that. > >2) You may not bring legal action to stop others' use of this code. > For example, you may not sue for patent infringement.

Re: request-tracker3: license shadiness

2004-07-02 Thread Andrew Stribblehill
Jesse, the upstream developer of RT3 assures me that they have no intention of stealing the copyright on code that hasn't been intentionally given to them for the purpose of inclusion in RT. He's in consultation with Best Practical's lawyers about how best to re-word it to reflect their intentions.

Re: Licening ibwebadmin and JSRS

2004-07-02 Thread Josh Triplett
Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > Why not just point him at the smallest possible BSD-style license: > > Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without > modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions > are met: > 1. Redistributions of source code must retain th