Re: gens License Check - Non-free

2004-06-15 Thread Evan Prodromou
> "BTS" == Brian Thomas Sniffen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: BTS> Yes. And this picture of a Gnu is not a derivative work of BTS> Emacs. But if I package it with Emacs as the Emacs icon, the BTS> combination IconEmacs is a derivative work of Emacs -- and of BTS> my iconic gnu.

Re: gens License Check - Non-free

2004-06-15 Thread Ken Arromdee
On Tue, 15 Jun 2004, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > > Being derivative is a property of a work, not a property of its > > distribution. > And it is that property of the combined work to which the FSF objects No, it isn't. The FSF doesn't prohibit derivatives (of GPL works and proprietary works tog

Re: gens License Check - Non-free

2004-06-15 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Jun 14, 2004, at 22:25, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: >> >> I'm not sure I buy the argument that WinFoo is a derivative work of >> Windows. Surely WinFoo, shipped with Windows, is. > > Either it is or isn't. You create a derivative work (or don't

Re: gens License Check - Non-free

2004-06-15 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jun 14, 2004, at 22:25, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: I'm not sure I buy the argument that WinFoo is a derivative work of Windows. Surely WinFoo, shipped with Windows, is. Either it is or isn't. You create a derivative work (or don't create a derivative work) when you create a work. Tapin

Re: How long is it acceptable to leave *undistributable* files in the kernel package?

2004-06-15 Thread Josh Triplett
Matthew Wilcox wrote: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 12:57:15PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >>I ask because such a file is present in Debian's Linux kernel sources and >>there seems to have been no attempt to remove it, despite the upload of >>new versions since the bug report. >> >>drivers/usb/mi

Re: How long is it acceptable to leave *undistributable* files in the kernel package?

2004-06-15 Thread Matthew Wilcox
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 12:57:15PM -0400, Nathanael Nerode wrote: > I ask because such a file is present in Debian's Linux kernel sources and > there seems to have been no attempt to remove it, despite the upload of > new versions since the bug report. > > drivers/usb/misc/emi26_fw.h: > > * The

How aggressively should non-distributability bugs be dealt with?

2004-06-15 Thread Nathanael Nerode
I ask because of #242895. In the Linux kernel, drivers/usb/misc/emi26_fw.h has a specific proprietary rights statement which does not give permission to distribute. The previous kernel maintainer merged it with other bugs (IMO incorrectly) and proceeded to ignore it for at least four uploads. Th

Bug#254596: jftpgw: Several license problems

2004-06-15 Thread Romain Francoise
Package: jftpgw Version: 0.13.5-1 Severity: serious The jftpgw package currently distributed in Debian has two license problems: 1. The source contains a file named snprintf.c that doesn't contain any copyright notice or license header. It appears to be copied verbatim from the Mutt distri

Re: oaklisp: contains 500kB binary in source

2004-06-15 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Marco Franzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Barak Pearlmutter wrote: >> source package; the source includes a interpreter and it would be a >> relatively small matter to translate it from Oaklisp into RnRS Scheme. > > Correct me if I am wrong, but AIUI if someone wants to package a GPLed > Java pr

Re: oaklisp: contains 500kB binary in source

2004-06-15 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
Marco Franzen writes: > ... Bootstrapping [using an Oaklisp interpreter written in Scheme] > might fail because an Oaklisp-specific feature of the target system > is subtly implemented by the same feature in the host system ... Right, then you would have to do this thing called "debugging", in ord

Re: DBD::InterBase licence

2004-06-15 Thread Damyan Ivanov
MJ Ray wrote: On 2004-06-15 14:23:06 +0100 Damyan Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You may distribute under the terms of either the GNU General Public License or the Artistic License, as specified in the Perl README file, with the exception that it cannot be placed on a CD-ROM or similar media

Re: DBD::InterBase licence

2004-06-15 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-06-15 14:23:06 +0100 Damyan Ivanov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You may distribute under the terms of either the GNU General Public License or the Artistic License, as specified in the Perl README file, with the exception that it cannot be placed on a CD-ROM or similar media for commerc

DBD::InterBase licence

2004-06-15 Thread Damyan Ivanov
--[Cc: me, I am not subscibed]-- Hi, I am considering DBD::InterBase perl module and I am stuck with its license. (http://search.cpan.org/src/EDPRATOMO/DBD-InterBase-0.43/InterBase.pm) -- Copyright (c) 1999-2004 Edwin Pratomo You may distribute under the terms of either the GNU Gen

Re: oaklisp: contains 500kB binary in source

2004-06-15 Thread Marco Franzen
Barak Pearlmutter wrote: source package; the source includes a interpreter and it would be a relatively small matter to translate it from Oaklisp into RnRS Scheme. Correct me if I am wrong, but AIUI if someone wants to package a GPLed Java program that, as it is, currently runs only on a non-fr

Re: Unfortunate Licence Mix

2004-06-15 Thread Mahesh T. Pai
Nathanael Nerode said on Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 01:20:11PM -0400,: > unfortunately it's not clear yet whether that's GPL-compatible; > eventually some version of the Apache license should be though. Apache says ASL 2.0 is GPL compatible, FSF says it is not. -- Mahesh T. Pai<<>