Re: gens License Check - Non-free

2004-06-14 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 11:20:57AM -0400, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: >> >> FOO is and always was a derivative work of MS Windows. It was >> provably such until Wine added that function; after that, it's much >> harder to prove. > > Ah... I though

Re: Unfortunate Licence Mix

2004-06-14 Thread Russ Allbery
Joachim Breitner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I was just about to package "psybnc"[1], a popular irc bouncer. > A closer look into the src/ dir revealed that the author seems to have > followed the Free Software spirit by not re-inventing a lot of wheels, > but didn't pay close attention to lega

Licence problems with psybnc

2004-06-14 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi Psychoid, I am looking into packaging psybnc for debian (of course with proper credit). Unfortunately, there are some problems: You include two files (snprintf.c, bsd-setenv.c) with GPL-incompatible licenses. I asked for advice[1] on debian legal, here is a summary for you. bsd-setenv.c: Is un

Re: gens License Check - Non-free

2004-06-14 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 11:20:57AM -0400, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote: > > FOO is and always was a derivative work of MS Windows. It was > provably such until Wine added that function; after that, it's much > harder to prove. Ah... I though it was being argued that wine's existence somehow made so

Re: Unfortunate Licence Mix

2004-06-14 Thread Josh Triplett
Joachim Breitner wrote: > I was just about to package "psybnc"[1], a popular irc bouncer. > > A closer look into the src/ dir revealed that the author seems to have > followed the Free Software spirit by not re-inventing a lot of wheels, > but didn't pay close attention to legal stuff... Never a

Re: license change for POSIX manpages

2004-06-14 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Francesco Poli wrote: > Moreover, the GPL requires that *source code* be accompanied or offered. > This POSIX license requires that *nroff source* be included. > > What if I created a derivative work by > step 0) converting it from nroff to some other typesetting language > (e.g. DocBook

Re: Unfortunate Licence Mix

2004-06-14 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Joachim Breitner wrote: > Hi, > > I was just about to package "psybnc"[1], a popular irc bouncer. > > A closer look into the src/ dir revealed that the author seems to have > followed the Free Software spirit by not re-inventing a lot of wheels, > but didn't pay close attention to legal stuff.

Re: Unfortunate Licence Mix

2004-06-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jun 14, 2004 at 05:04:48PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > I was just about to package "psybnc"[1], a popular irc bouncer. > A closer look into the src/ dir revealed that the author seems to have > followed the Free Software spirit by not re-inventing a lot of wheels, > but didn't pay cl

Re: gens License Check - Non-free

2004-06-14 Thread Brian Thomas Sniffen
Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Jun 8, 2004, at 14:56, Andrew Suffield wrote: > >> Bad example. There are two implementations of most of the significant >> win32 libraries - windows and wine. Anything which works on both is a >> derivative of neither. > > That leads to even wei

Unfortunate Licence Mix

2004-06-14 Thread Joachim Breitner
Hi, I was just about to package "psybnc"[1], a popular irc bouncer. A closer look into the src/ dir revealed that the author seems to have followed the Free Software spirit by not re-inventing a lot of wheels, but didn't pay close attention to legal stuff... His own works are GPLed, and have co

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Re: oaklisp: contains 500kB binary in source

2004-06-14 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
> If glibc binaries really had virus that were not it its source, and > if that could have been avoided by more painful bootstrapping, would > that mean clean oaklisp bootstrapping should not be required? Right. And if my grandmother had wheels and a gas tank she would be an automobile. All new

Re: gens License Check - Non-free

2004-06-14 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Jun 8, 2004, at 14:56, Andrew Suffield wrote: Bad example. There are two implementations of most of the significant win32 libraries - windows and wine. Anything which works on both is a derivative of neither. That leads to even weirder things. FOO was a derivative work of M$ Windows until

Re: oaklisp: contains 500kB binary in source

2004-06-14 Thread Marco Franzen
Walter Landry wrote: Marco Franzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Barak Pearlmutter wrote: This is a technical issue related to ease of bootstrapping on a new architecture, and not a legal issue. It may not be a legal issue, but I think it is more than merely technical. It does touch the fre

Re: Draft Summary: MPL is not DFSG free

2004-06-14 Thread MJ Ray
On 2004-06-11 22:48:23 +0100 Lex Spoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am wondering this as well. It might actually be legally *preferable* to have a license where choice of venue is specified, because otherwise one needs to be prepared to face suits in all kinds of places. Are any others than

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