Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]

2003-11-08 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 09 Nov 2003, Adam Warner wrote: > So you want companies to grant perpetual, non-exclusive, worldwide, > fully paid-up and royalty free patent licenses that are completely > irrevocable even when another company is using their software and > suing them for software patent infringement? What

Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]

2003-11-08 Thread Adam Warner
On Sun, 2003-11-09 at 01:25, Don Armstrong wrote: > >5. Reciprocity. If You institute patent litigation against a > > Contributor with respect to a patent applicable to software > > (including a cross-claim or counterclaim in a lawsuit), then > > any patent licenses granted by

Re: Bug#218832: ITP: libnettle -- a low-level cryptographic library

2003-11-08 Thread John Belmonte
Branden, I don't disagree with anything you've stated regarding my sloppy arguments. However, as you are implying on a public forum that I don't grasp the subject matter of licenses, I'm going to defend myself a little. I wrote, unfortunately, "If the library as a whole must be under GPL li

Re: Bug#218832: ITP: libnettle -- a low-level cryptographic library

2003-11-08 Thread Brian Ristuccia
On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 02:43:21PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > a single license apply to the work "as a whole", as you say. > > What do you mean by "once under the LGPL or public domain"? What > mechanism do you propose causes works to stop being licensed under the > LGPL, or withdrawn from

Re: Bug#218832: ITP: libnettle -- a low-level cryptographic library

2003-11-08 Thread Branden Robinson
[Follows set to debian-legal.] On Thu, Nov 06, 2003 at 02:22:31PM -0500, John Belmonte wrote: > If the library as a whole must be under GPL license, how is it > significant that parts of it were once under LGPL or on the public > domain? The purpose of the License field is to tell the user what

Legality of .DEBS in Medialinux.

2003-11-08 Thread Marco Ghirlanda
Hi, I'm Marco Ghirlanda, Linux Advisor at the Virtual Reality and Multi Media Park of Turin, Italy. (www.vrmmp.it). We developed for our Open Source Lab (www.opensourcelab.it) a remastered version of the Knoppix Live Cd, Medialinux, wich includes most ot the audio, graphic and video software tha

Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]

2003-11-08 Thread Don Armstrong
How Apache went from a rather decent 5 clause license to the proposed 11 clause license is a mystery to me. I strongly suggest the license be gone over with a fine toothed comb and searched for areas where it can be made more general and less specific. On Sat, 08 Nov 2003, Brian M. Carlson wrote:

Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]

2003-11-08 Thread Brian M. Carlson
BIG NOTICE: None of these licenses are official. They are all drafts. On Sat, Nov 08, 2003 at 10:03:55AM +, Brian M. Carlson wrote: > I am including the licenses inline. I will immediately follow up with > comments, so that it is apparent which comments are mine and which are > not. > >3.

Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]

2003-11-08 Thread Brian M. Carlson
I am including the licenses inline. I will immediately follow up with comments, so that it is apparent which comments are mine and which are not. = == DO NOT PANIC! This is a draft for discussion purposes only. == ==

[fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]

2003-11-08 Thread Martin Michlmayr - Debian Project Leader
- Forwarded message from "Roy T. Fielding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - From: "Roy T. Fielding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2003 00:33:17 -0800 To: announce@apache.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.552) The Apache Software Foundation is