Re: Unable to contact author of DFSG FAQ

2003-07-24 Thread James Devenish
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 05:58:31PM -0700, Don Armstrong wrote: > Barak Pearlmutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> is the primarily author of the > DFSG Faq, as listed at the end of the FAQ. Yes, however mail to that address was bouncing. Apparently it was a transient problem an

Re: GNU FDL and Debian

2003-07-24 Thread David B Harris
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003 11:28:36 -0400 Jeremy Hankins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Sergey V. Spiridonov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It is clear for me, why FDL appears: it is needed to help technical > > writers earn money by writing free documentation for free software > > and to help publish

Re: Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-24 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Guido Trotter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It seems that perlreftut(1) is quite non DFSG-free. So it does. It will have to be relicensed or removed. (This does not add much, I know, but I felt the cc: to debian-legal ought to result in some kind of response from us d-l people). -- Henning Ma

Re: Implied vs. explicit copyright

2003-07-24 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Thu, 2003-07-24 at 16:04, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 03:43:19PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > > [...] I still think it would be hard for the defendant to > > convince a court that he was ignorant of the *de facto* convention > > that people put "(c)" in computer program

Bug#202723: perl-doc: Non-free manpage included

2003-07-24 Thread Guido Trotter
Package: perl-doc Version: 5.8.0-18 Severity: serious Justification: Policy 2.2.1 Hi, It seems that perlreftut(1) is quite non DFSG-free. Here is an extract from the bottom of the manpage: "Distribution Conditions" Copyright 1998 The Perl Journal. When include

Re: mplayer licenses

2003-07-24 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Fri, Jul 25, 2003 at 02:51:19AM +1200, Adam Warner wrote: > Thanks. I hope there's no chance your 23 July upload to the new package > queue could be approved: There's very little chance that anything called "mplayer" could be approved :P -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield :

Re: Implied vs. explicit copyright

2003-07-24 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 03:43:19PM +0200, Henning Makholm wrote: > [...] I still think it would be hard for the defendant to > convince a court that he was ignorant of the *de facto* convention > that people put "(c)" in computer programs to assert their copyright. Actually, the convention is "Cop

Re: mplayer licenses

2003-07-24 Thread Adam Warner
On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 01:41, A Mennucc1 wrote: > sorry > > last time there was a discussion, it was mainly on licenses and > copyrights, and I was so focused on them that I didn't think > of the CSS code > > I will prepare and test an 'mplayer' without the above code > (a la xine) and come back s

Re: GNU FDL and Debian

2003-07-24 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Barak Pearlmutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ... To the extent that the GFDL caters for the wishes of publishers > > at all, it is in that it makes it inconvenient for *competing* > > publishers to publish and sell hardcopies. ... > I'm not quite tracking you there. The GFDL isn't supposed

Re: GNU FDL and Debian

2003-07-24 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
> ... To the extent that the GFDL caters for the wishes of publishers > at all, it is in that it makes it inconvenient for *competing* > publishers to publish and sell hardcopies. ... I'm not quite tracking you there. The GFDL isn't supposed to have that effect, at least as I read it, and as I un

Re: mplayer licenses

2003-07-24 Thread A Mennucc1
sorry last time there was a discussion, it was mainly on licenses and copyrights, and I was so focused on them that I didn't think of the CSS code I will prepare and test an 'mplayer' without the above code (a la xine) and come back soon On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 10:56:50PM +1200, Adam Warner wro

Re: Implied vs. explicit copyright

2003-07-24 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Even if I'm right, "fairly close" does not necessarily mean "identical", > and, frankly, I think the whole thing is getting a bit silly. Having (c) in > there might, or might not, be considered "circle in a C" if you have only > ASCII to work with, by some

Re: Unable to contact author of DFSG FAQ

2003-07-24 Thread Barak Pearlmutter
Sorry about that. The mail server I use crashed, and during restoration the sysadmin turned on the SMTP server before restoring the accounts, unceremoniously bouncing days of incoming queued email. I should be reachable again. And if anyone wants a relaxing job as sysadmin of a friendly departme

Re: mplayer licenses

2003-07-24 Thread Andrea Mennucc
Adam Warner wrote: I'm please to see what has been done Andrea. I believe the copyright file can be improved by these completely unofficial suggestions (suggestions start with *): This package was first debianized by * TeLeNiEkO * [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Mon, 26 Feb 2001 12:24:04 +0100. Or

Re: GNU FDL and Debian

2003-07-24 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Barak Pearlmutter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Since the FSF felt that publishers could not use the GNU GPL for > printed documentation, they adopted the GFDL for their manuals, to > allow printed publication under terms they felt publishers would find > acceptable. (The correctness of their re

Re: mplayer licenses

2003-07-24 Thread Adam Warner
It has been pointed out on debian-devel that your mplayer package includes DVD Content Scrambling System decoding!: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200307/msg01827.html (Refer libmpdvdkit2/*css*) I hope you understand how serious this is and how many problems you would have

Re: Suggested small improvements to the (already excellent) DFSG FAQ

2003-07-24 Thread Romain FRANCOISE
There's also: 15. Q: Why are almost all these "dual" licenses dualed with the GNU GPL? ... QPL is under GNU/Qt ... It doesn't make much sense, I think the author means something like "Qt is under GPL/QPL". :-) -- Romain FRANCOISE <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | When we were kids, we hated

Suggested small improvements to the (already excellent) DFSG FAQ

2003-07-24 Thread Thomas Hood
[Barak Pearlmutter's mail comes back no matter how I send it, so I am posting to the list] The FAQ is very good. Here are some suggestions for further improvement. > 26. [...] > OSS was also meant to sound more professional and hence > more attractive to businesses. You might also mention after