Re: OpenLDAP Licenseing issues

2003-05-25 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, May 23, 2003 at 10:49:59PM -0700, Howard Chu wrote: > > As I understand it, the "must" requirement of your license is entirely > > GPL-compatible, as the GPL also stipulates that one may not > > misrepresent > > the origin of the work. The problem arises if we understand your > > license

Re: Bug#189164: libdbd-mysql-perl uses GPL lib, may be used by GPL-incompatible apps

2003-05-25 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Saturday, May 24, 2003, at 10:02 PM, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: Anthony DeRobertis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: On Friday, May 23, 2003, at 01:45 PM, Stephen Ryan wrote: On Fri, 2003-05-23 at 09:52, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: The other option, of course, is that the kernel exec() function *is*

Re: Bug#189164: libdbd-mysql-perl uses GPL lib, may be used by GPL-incompatible apps

2003-05-25 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
On Friday, May 23, 2003, at 03:30 PM, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: but given their authors licensed them in ways that forbid linking with non-GPL-compatible software, such as OpenSSL, that sounds reasonable Well, at least you're consistent ;-) Wait. Isn't dpkg under the GPL? Now everything o

Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long)

2003-05-25 Thread David B Harris
On Sat, 24 May 2003 19:19:50 -0400 Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A political essay is (typically) written by certain persons to > persuade the public of a certain position. If it is modified, it does > not do its job. So it makes sense, socially, to say that these cannot > be modi

Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long)

2003-05-25 Thread Dylan Thurston
Richard Stallman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But what if I encounter an Invariant Section saying that Social > Security is wrong and that old or diseased people should be left alone > and not helped by a public service? If I cannot remove this political > statement, I cannot really

Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long)

2003-05-25 Thread Dylan Thurston
Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jaime E . Villate <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On Wed, May 21, 2003 at 02:33:19AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: >> > On Tue, May 20, 2003 at 09:21:13PM -0700, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: >> > > I would point out that the FSF has rewritten its views a

Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long)

2003-05-25 Thread John Holroyd
On Sun, 2003-05-25 at 18:03, Richard Stallman wrote: > There are free software licenses that have restrictions that I find > annoying and inconvenient. One is the old BSD license. I worked for > several years to convince Berkeley to remove the advertising clause, > which I called "obnoxious." I

Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long)

2003-05-25 Thread Arnoud Galactus Engelfriet
Matthew Garrett wrote: > I am insufficiently aware of the philosophical basis for the existence > of fair use in US copyright law to know where else might be affected - > does the rest of Europe have general fair use provisions? "Fair use" appears to be a US invention. European copyright laws of c

Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long)

2003-05-25 Thread Richard Stallman
But what if I encounter an Invariant Section saying that Social Security is wrong and that old or diseased people should be left alone and not helped by a public service? If I cannot remove this political statement, I cannot really regard the manual as free. And I would not want

Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long)

2003-05-25 Thread Richard Stallman
Many examples have been given for why this is *false*, and they're pretty much all tied to the *non-removability* rather than the non-modifiability. Should we repeat them again? I've looked at these reasons, and they did not convince me the first time; repeating them won't convince

Re: The debate on Invariant sections (long)

2003-05-25 Thread Matthew Garrett
Richard Stallman wrote: >But that the issue is a moot point, because a reference card would use >so little of the text of the manual that it would be fair use. In >fact, the very idea that a reference card is derived from the manual >in copyright terms seems like an unrealistic idea. UK copyrigh

Re: GDB manual

2003-05-25 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sat, May 24, 2003 at 07:19:33PM -0400, Richard Stallman wrote: > It addresses the issue that was raised here before. > Someone said that the GDB manual had marked a section invariant > which was not secondary. As indeed it had. "A Sample GDB Session" (among others) was marked Invariant. The i