Re: UnrealIRCd Legal Status

2003-04-04 Thread Mark Rafn
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Roger Ward wrote: > Thanks Henning & Mark for the replies - sorry I had to ask yet again, > but I use this and hate to not be able to Do What I Want with the > source. Its sad there is not a way it would work out. Have you contacted the upstream? It's always possible they'd

Re: Revised LaTeX Project Public License (LPPL)

2003-04-04 Thread Richard Braakman
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 02:59:07PM -0800, Walter Landry wrote: > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But does that possibility make the original software non-free? Your > > argument seems to be that it is possible to make a derived version > > that is not free - but that possiblity exist

Re: Bug#167747: MySQL-OpenSSL linking, news by MySQL team.about licensing

2003-04-04 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
On Wed, Apr 02, 2003 at 08:04:01PM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > > Also, it's surely my fault, but I cannot find any LGPL proof of > statement in libmysql sources. Could anyone provide it? > Anyway I asked for clarifications about licensing on 3/4 series. > Ok, ok, I was probably sle

Re: UnrealIRCd Legal Status

2003-04-04 Thread Roger Ward
Thanks Henning & Mark for the replies - sorry I had to ask yet again, but I use this and hate to not be able to Do What I Want with the source. Its sad there is not a way it would work out. -Roger Ward Quoting Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Quoting Mark Rafn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

Re: UnrealIRCd Legal Status

2003-04-04 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Roger Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Rather than paste the EULA (it has been pasted several times) here is a URL > which will display it from their webserver: > http://www.unrealircd.org/downloads.php?eula=1 It says (no, shouts), among other things: | THE AUTHORS MAINTAIN THE RIGHT TO MODI

Re: UnrealIRCd Legal Status

2003-04-04 Thread Mark Rafn
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Roger Ward wrote: > What is the status of the EULA discussion about UnrealIRCd? Last I heard, it's pretty clearly not distributable, let alone free. It seems likely they're violating copyright if they're using any code under the GPL not authored by them. > The debian bug a

Re: Revised LaTeX Project Public License (LPPL)

2003-04-04 Thread Mark Rafn
On Fri, 4 Apr 2003, Jeff Licquia wrote: > If the Base Format itself is free, why is this non-free? > > On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 19:29, Mark Rafn wrote: > > Does this conflict with DFSG#9? This license effectively insists that the > > Base Format must be free software in order for the Work to be free

UnrealIRCd Legal Status

2003-04-04 Thread Roger Ward
What is the status of the EULA discussion about UnrealIRCd? I use this on my personal machines for a few different purposes, and I'd like to see it supported in Debian. I am willing to package it, but wanted to request any relevant comments. The debian bug archives at http://b.d.o/148319 has a f

Re: Revised LaTeX Project Public License (LPPL)

2003-04-04 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 17:59, Walter Landry wrote: > I don't think that it is prohibitively complicated. I think it is > impossible. The LaTeX people can't live with a free license. There > is too little control. Well, I suppose there's no convincing someone who has made up their mind. -- Jeff

Re: Revised LaTeX Project Public License (LPPL)

2003-04-04 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 20:49, Walter Landry wrote: > Jeff Licquia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 14:38, Walter Landry wrote: > > > I get the feeling that this license is being considered only in the > > > context of LaTeX, not in the context of all of free software. We > > > c

Re: Revised LaTeX Project Public License (LPPL)

2003-04-04 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 16:50, Brian T. Sniffen wrote: > Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Scripsit Brian T. Sniffen > >> Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > Scripsit Walter Landry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >> >> That's good, but only if you're able to modify the Base

Re: Revised LaTeX Project Public License (LPPL)

2003-04-04 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 19:29, Mark Rafn wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-04-03 at 14:41, Mark Rafn wrote: > > > It still depends on the platform that runs it to determine whether the > > > modification is allowed. It may be that this is free when distributed > > > with a base format that does no such valida