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2002-03-04 Thread Bob Stanberry

Re: distributable but non-free documents

2002-03-04 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 08:19:15PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > > > If I recall, the original issue was about some RFC documents. I would > > > have thought it was essential that such things, which define the > > > standards we all use, should be protected from unauthorised amendments. > > >

Re: distributable but non-free documents

2002-03-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 07:19:30PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: > On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 06:12:21PM +, Oliver Elphick wrote: > > If I recall, the original issue was about some RFC documents. I would > > have thought it was essential that such things, which define the > > standards we all use,

Re: distributable but non-free documents

2002-03-04 Thread Steve Greenland
On 04-Mar-02, 17:57 (CST), Marcus Brinkmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I find a bug in the glibc manual, and read up POSIX to find > out what it should be, I have to close my eyes for a minute and try > to forget what I just read before writing a bug report. It would be > easier to move th

Re: distributable but non-free documents

2002-03-04 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 11:31:58PM +0100, Jeroen Dekkers wrote: > However, I don't see why that should give much problems. You don't > want to change to standards anyhow. I would. For example, I would take some of the RFC's, c&p from them, add texinfo markup and include bits of them in documentat

Re: distributable but non-free documents

2002-03-04 Thread Mark Rafn
> > However, free documentation *is* essential to free software. On 4 Mar 2002, Oliver Elphick wrote: > If I recall, the original issue was about some RFC documents. I would > have thought it was essential that such things, which define the > standards we all use, should be protected from unautho

Re: distributable but non-free documents

2002-03-04 Thread Jeroen Dekkers
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 04:22:10PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > No, I am an unimpressed with the argument that standards documents must > be regarded as sacred, unalterable texts, lest the universe collapse > into primeval chaos. However, I don't see why that should give much problems. You don

Re: distributable but non-free documents

2002-03-04 Thread Adam Heath
> No, I am an unimpressed with the argument that standards documents must > be regarded as sacred, unalterable texts, lest the universe collapse > into primeval chaos. Too late. :)

Re: distributable but non-free documents

2002-03-04 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Mar 04, 2002 at 06:12:21PM +, Oliver Elphick wrote: > If I recall, the original issue was about some RFC documents. I would > have thought it was essential that such things, which define the > standards we all use, should be protected from unauthorised amendments. > Or do you want Mic

Re: WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-03-04 Thread Walter Landry
John Galt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The T7 countries are all under Boycott. You'd get arrested exporting > ANYTHING to them. Well, in that case there are no problems. We don't export to those countries. However, I can export gcc to the UK and tell them that they can develop nukes with it.

Re: distributable but non-free documents

2002-03-04 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Oliver Elphick > On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 16:45, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > However, free documentation *is* essential to free software. > If I recall, the original issue was about some RFC documents. I would > have thought it was essential that such things, which define the > standa

Re: distributable but non-free documents

2002-03-04 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 16:45, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 1b) Debian makes a moral stand on free software. Not free licenses, > > or free books, or free tea, or free beer, or free-for-all wrestling, > > with all their various meanings of free. > > Wh

Re: distributable but non-free documents

2002-03-04 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 1b) Debian makes a moral stand on free software. Not free licenses, > or free books, or free tea, or free beer, or free-for-all wrestling, > with all their various meanings of free. While some might think free beer is essential to free software, they woul

Re: * WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-03-04 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > 1. Software in non-us was not developed inside the US and should > not be restricted to 'export' into other countries. Lots of stuff in non-us was developed in the US.

Re: * WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-03-04 Thread Stephen Ryan
On Mon, 2002-03-04 at 03:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I don't know what the right list to bring this issue up is, so I > write to all three lists to get to the right people. > > Here are my views on the crypto on main subject. > > I suppose there has been debate on this subject be

Re: distributable but non-free documents

2002-03-04 Thread Jules Bean
On Sat, Mar 02, 2002 at 12:20:50AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > 1) It's a license text, and we don't reject a package for being non-DFSG > free as long as *only* its license text is non-DFSG-free. The license > text is only required due to copyright laws that presume that the > exercise of the

* WARNING: Crypto software to be included into main Debian distribution

2002-03-04 Thread jose
I don't know what the right list to bring this issue up is, so I write to all three lists to get to the right people. Here are my views on the crypto on main subject. I suppose there has been debate on this subject before on other debian lists, but as I'm not subscribed to more than