Re: Free Pine?

2000-08-29 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 07:31:13PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Who? what? I'll send you a copy of the entire thread. Thanks, -- Raul

Re: MIT License?

2000-08-29 Thread Jimmy O'Regan
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Colin Watson wrote: ) Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ) >Maybe I am a bit stupid, but it only guarantees that the copyright ) >notice stays. I might have a problem with the word 'sublicense'. Does ) >this word mean that: ) > ) >- you can use the same license

Re: MIT License?

2000-08-29 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
> I release this software under the MIT license. (No, not the GPL > license. Mainly because I do not quite understand the GPL license > myself as I do with the MIT and the BSD types.) MIT license is: Do whatever you want with this. You can even branch proprietary software a

Re: Free Pine?

2000-08-29 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Raul Miller wrote: > I've an outstanding, unanswered question which I've sent to UW in a > related context (IMAPD): what specific clause of the copyright is being > violated, when modified versions are distributed. Who? what? AFAIK imapd doesn't have the same no-modification

Re: MIT License?

2000-08-29 Thread Colin Watson
Jean-Christophe Dubacq <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Maybe I am a bit stupid, but it only guarantees that the copyright >notice stays. I might have a problem with the word 'sublicense'. Does >this word mean that: > >- you can use the same license >- you can use any license >- you can use any license

Re: Free Pine?

2000-08-29 Thread Chris Allegretta
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 12:01:47PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > Whoa! Isn't this the program that RMS said the University of Washington > threatened to sue them over? That's a good question. Someone had pointed me to this program in a message awhile back, and in a nutshell said "you're wasti

Re: Free Pine?

2000-08-29 Thread Raul Miller
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 12:01:47PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > Whoa! Isn't this the program that RMS said the University of > Washington threatened to sue them over? I've an outstanding, unanswered question which I've sent to UW in a related context (IMAPD): what specific clause of the copyright

Re: MIT License?

2000-08-29 Thread Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho
On 2829T154235+0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > I have been looking at a piece of software which is under the MIT license. > Its probably good enough to use for debian It's definitely good enough for Debian. > but I'd like to know the pros > and cons of the MIT license when compared with

Re: Free Pine?

2000-08-29 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 05:56:28PM +0300, Juhapekka Tolvanen wrote: > MANA is a mail and news agent for UNIX. > Mana is based on Pine® version 3.91, and is free software. > > Mana is based on Pine version 3.91. > > All additions to the basic 3.91 version are Copyright © 1997 Free > Software Fo

Re: MIT License?

2000-08-29 Thread David Starner
On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 03:42:35PM +0200, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > Hi, > I have been looking at a piece of software which is under the MIT license. > Its probably good enough to use for debian, but I'd like to know the pros > and cons of the MIT license when compared with GPL or BSD. I guess

Free Pine?

2000-08-29 Thread Juhapekka Tolvanen
I do not subscribe to these mailing-lists. You can Cc: to me, if you want, but I am smart enought to read mailing-list archives via WWW. * * * I think I have found "OpenSSH of MUAs". It seems that somebody has found last free (in the sense of Debian Free Software Guidleines and Open Source Defin

Re: MIT License?

2000-08-29 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
On Tue, 29 Aug 2000, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > LICENSE: > Copyright (c) 2000 Mikael Johansson > > Permission is hereby granted, free of charge, to any person obtaining > a copy of this software and associated documentation files (the > "Software"), to deal in the Software without restriction

Re: MIT License?

2000-08-29 Thread Peter Makholm
"Christian T. Steigies" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Licenses? > I release this software under the MIT license. (No, not the GPL > license. Mainly because I do not quite understand the GPL license > myself as I do with the MIT and the BSD types.) For the almost the exact same rea

MIT License?

2000-08-29 Thread Christian T. Steigies
Hi, I have been looking at a piece of software which is under the MIT license. Its probably good enough to use for debian, but I'd like to know the pros and cons of the MIT license when compared with GPL or BSD. I guess the author also would like to know them, maybe he will change to GPL. Copy of h

RFC: FAQ for the new CNRI Python license

2000-08-29 Thread Gregor Hoffleit
Many of you certainly have noticed the mess about the Python licensing. In short words, the current owner of the Python copyright, CNRI, seems to believe that almost all existing Python releases (1.3 up to 1.5.2) were never really licensed to anybody (although they had a file Misc/COPYRIGHT that i

Re: Bug#70450: d4x is not DFSG free

2000-08-29 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Tommi Virtanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > It's still as bad. I don't know how it was before, but FWIW I concur it is not DFSG-free. -- Henning Makholm "The compile-time type checker for this language has proved to be a valuable filter wh

Re: Is UAI license free software license?

2000-08-29 Thread Peter Makholm
Miros/law `Jubal' Baran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > as in Subject: field; IIRC correctly this license (look at > http://hell.pl/baran/tek/misc/UAI-license.txt), it does not conflict > with DFSG. I'm not sure of my English knowledge, so could somebody read > this text and confirm its DFSG-conform

Is UAI license free software license?

2000-08-29 Thread Miros/law `Jubal' Baran
Hello, as in Subject: field; IIRC correctly this license (look at http://hell.pl/baran/tek/misc/UAI-license.txt), it does not conflict with DFSG. I'm not sure of my English knowledge, so could somebody read this text and confirm its DFSG-conformance? best regards, Jubal -- [ Miros/law L Baran,

Re: Squeak License DFSG free?

2000-08-29 Thread Peter Makholm
Marcus Denker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://squeak.org/license.html I'm not sure we can honor the preamble: PLEASE READ THIS SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT "LICENSE" CAREFULLY BEFORE DOWNLOADING THIS SOFTWARE. BY DOWNLOADING THIS SOFTWARE YOU ARE AGREEING TO BE BOUND BY THE TERM

Re: Squeak License DFSG free?

2000-08-29 Thread Marcus Denker
Hi! Some days ago I asked about the Squeak License, but I have not received any answer. http://squeak.org/license.html Is this License DFSG free? I've now built Debian packages (available at ftp://ftp.ira.uka.de/pub/squeak/debian/debian-2.2/2.8/ ) and I'd like to know if it is possible fo

Re: Bug#70450: d4x is not DFSG free

2000-08-29 Thread Tommi Virtanen
[Cc:d to -legal, FYI. I'm not subscribed, please Cc:] On Tue, Aug 29, 2000 at 12:03:24PM +0300, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Tommi Virtanen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit: > > Hi, > > > d4x is clearly not Free as we define Free: > > > Please > > > > 1) get the package removed f