Re: Licensing Problems with Debian Packages (Was Re: Copyright lawyers analysis of Andreas Pour's Interpretation)

2000-02-16 Thread Raul Miller
On Wed, Feb 16, 2000 at 11:53:06AM -0500, Andreas Pour wrote: > OK, so you admit that the advertising clause conflicts with the > GPL. Well, that's very interesting, b/c the Apache license (see > http://www.apache.org/LICENSE.txt, clause 3) includes this provision, > as well as several others (clau

Re: Heart of the debate

2000-02-16 Thread Raul Miller
Raul Miller wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 12:02:31PM -0500, Andreas Pour wrote: > > > I think this is where you went off-track. Section 2 only refers to > > > source code distributions (as it requires the modifications to be > > > distributed under Section 1 and Section 1 deals only with sourc

Re: Heart of the debate

2000-02-16 Thread Don Sanders
On Thu, 17 Feb 2000, Andreas Pour wrote: > Don Sanders wrote: > > GNU e?grep, version 1.6 > > Grep (the binary) does contain the following: I see this message in grep 2.3 but not 1.6. (At the time I was logged into a stable machine that doesn't get upgraded very often). But either way I think we

Re: Heart of the debate

2000-02-16 Thread Andreas Pour
Marc van Leeuwen wrote: [ . . . ] > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:02:31 -0500 Andreas Pour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > When I read "under the terms of Sections 1 and 2", I interpret that as "in > > compliance with". "Under the terms of" is often used in legal documents to > > mean > > "in complia

Licensing Problems with Debian Packages (Was Re: Copyright lawyers analysis of Andreas Pour's Interpretation)

2000-02-16 Thread Andreas Pour
Raul Miller wrote: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 03:46:48AM -0500, Andreas Pour wrote: > > > [ Raul Miller wrote: ] > > > > No clauses from the BSD license were presented which conflicted with > > > any of the clauses from the GPL. > > [ Andreas Pour wrote: ] > > The advertising clause is a "furt

Re: Heart of the debate

2000-02-16 Thread Marc van Leeuwen
Excuse the previous message, I hit ^C ^C in emacs where I meant ^X ^X ! I'm ging to try to keep this short and then shut up definitely. I just aint got the time to go on like this. On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:02:31 -0500 Andreas Pour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When I read "under the terms of Sectio

Re: Heart of the debate

2000-02-16 Thread Andreas Pour
Don Sanders wrote: > Personally I think that it is theoretically possible to license a binary under > the GPL, but I don't think it make much sense to do so, (it's equivalent to > applying the GPL to say a file of raw binary data of rainfall measurements). > > For instance Section 0 of the GPL req

Re: Heart of the debate

2000-02-16 Thread Marc van Leeuwen
> Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 12:02:31 -0500 > From: Andreas Pour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Marc van Leeuwen wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:52:00 -0500 Andreas Pour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Marc van Leeuwen wrote:

Re: Heart of the debate

2000-02-16 Thread Don Sanders
Personally I think that it is theoretically possible to license a binary under the GPL, but I don't think it make much sense to do so, (it's equivalent to applying the GPL to say a file of raw binary data of rainfall measurements). For instance Section 0 of the GPL requires that in order to apply

Re: Fwd: Re: Heart of the debate

2000-02-16 Thread Don Sanders
I just want to prefix this message by saying the issue I am concerned with is whether I can apply the GPL to a KDE application. On Tue, 15 Feb 2000, Raul Miller wrote: > On Tue, Feb 15, 2000 at 05:03:59PM +1100, Don Sanders wrote: > > I just noticed my remark in parenthesis is irrelevant, 2b clea

Re: Heart of the debate

2000-02-16 Thread Don Sanders
Ok I screwed up in a few places in recent mails > Is applicable and the complete source is not under the scope of the license. Could have been clearer: Is applicable and none of the complete source except for the Program is under the scope of the license. > If the complete sources do not contain

Fwd: Re: Heart of the debate

2000-02-16 Thread Don Sanders
After thinking about the the work based on the Program issue some more I've decided everything I wrote originally is correct. Any response would be appreciated. -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: Re: Heart of the debate Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2000 17:19:41 +1100 From: Don Sanders <[EMAI

Re: Heart of the debate

2000-02-16 Thread Don Sanders
I hope you don't mind me replying to this too. On Wed, 16 Feb 2000, Marc van Leeuwen wrote: > On Tue, 15 Feb 2000 06:52:00 -0500 Andreas Pour <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Marc van Leeuwen wrote: > > > However, the main point seems to be that you want to apply the requirement > > > of GPL 3a t