Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-30 Thread Jeff Licquia
On Sat, Jan 29, 2000 at 12:01:32AM -0500, Andreas Pour wrote: > Jeff Licquia wrote: > > > On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 03:00:40AM -0500, Andreas Pour wrote: > > > Jeff Licquia wrote: > > The BSD license places no restrictions on what license you can grant > > to the people you give code to. > > That

Re: Was Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-30 Thread Raul Miller
On Sun, Jan 30, 2000 at 05:01:54AM -0600, Chris Lawrence wrote: > Seriously, it's the contrast between a meritless lawsuit and no > lawsuit at all. Meritless lawsuits are expensive; we'll get back to > you after we IPO. Ask the css-auth victims... It's not just the lawsuit threat. It's also the e

Re: Was Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-30 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Jan 29, 2000 at 06:19:12PM -0500, Andreas Pour wrote: > To be fair, people were offended by the Debian statement that > distributing KDE is unlawful and to a lesser extent by the tirades > offered by *some* Debian developers. Being offended isn't going to solve any real problem. The funda

Re: Was Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-30 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Jan 30, Andreas Pour wrote: > > [Personally, I think if you wrote the software yourself and link it > > against Qt, it's pretty obvious from a legal standpoint that you > > accept people linking it against Qt. > > I think so too. So why not just exclude kgv and kfloppy and distribute the > rest

Re: Was Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-30 Thread Andreas Pour
Chris Lawrence wrote: > On Jan 29, Andreas Pour wrote: > > > (3) real permission to distribute from the authors. > > > > I do not quite know what you mean by this, but if you mean that to > > conform to your practice noted above of confirming from package > > authors that packages can be distribut

Re: Was Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-30 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Jan 29, Andreas Pour wrote: > > (3) real permission to distribute from the authors. > > I do not quite know what you mean by this, but if you mean that to > conform to your practice noted above of confirming from package > authors that packages can be distributed by Debian, I will see if I > ca

Re: Was Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-30 Thread Andreas Pour
Raul Miller wrote: [ ... ] > Debian tries to maintain a good relationship with the upstream authors. > We ask for permission to distribute code, and if it's clearly granted, > and we have a maintainer who wants to maintain the code we distribute it. > > If we don't have clear permission, then goo

BSD-like freedom (was Re: KDE not in Debian?)

2000-01-30 Thread Raul Miller
On Fri, Jan 28, 2000 at 05:34:23PM -0600, Jeff Licquia wrote: > If you want to allow either total BSD-like freedom or complete > proprietariness, you should write a license that forbids any middle > ground. It strikes me as odd that someone would be pissed about the > GPL's restrictions yet be perf

Was Re: KDE not in Debian?

2000-01-30 Thread Raul Miller
On Sat, Jan 29, 2000 at 12:01:32AM -0500, Andreas Pour wrote: > Now, if you truly mean what you said below -- namely > > Debian doesn't have millions of IPO dollars to finance a legal fight. > And our actions can affect our distributors as well. Therefore, we > have to be careful. >