Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
I've always used Red Hat Linux, in the past. I'm trying different distros, looking for a successor to it, for personal use and to recommend at work, on our servers (I'm the admin). I've never used Debian before. I thought I'd start by installing it on my laptop (Dell Latitude CPx J750GT). Any k

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Alex Malinovich wrote: The first thing to be aware of is that Debian doesn't do nearly as much auto-configuration for you as Red Hat. Don't expect X to 'just work'. You'll most likely have to do some hand editing of your XF86Config file. It might be a good idea to make a backup of your Red Hat one

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
I wrote: How do I use the Sarge installer? I booted the first CD, and I got something that appears to be very manual, when I hit return at the boot prompt. I think I understand now, but please correct me if I'm wrong. The 3.0 release I downloaded, is called "woody". The beta version of 3.1 is c

Supported hardware list?

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
I'm looking on the site, and I can't find a list of what's supported. I can't get 3.0 to recognize any of my laptop's network cards. I have these to choose from: Xircom RealPort CardBus Ethernet 10/100+Modem 56 (RBEM56G-100) 3Com EtherLink III (3C589C) 3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card (

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Alex Malinovich wrote: Here's a link for the net-install iso. It's 110 MB. It'll do a base install at which point you connect to the internet to fetch the rest of the packages. http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta4/sarge-i386-netinst.iso I downloaded and burned it. I wa

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
I wrote: However, after setting up the local user account, it claims I'm not connected to the Internet. So, I tried to tell it to install from the cdrom, but it says it can't auto-detect a cdrom, so I'm rather stuck, atm. I'm an idiot. I must need coffee. :) The cdrom issue is that I didn't have

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Shaun T. Erickson wrote: I wrote: Still don't know why it doesn't see the card though, but will forge ahead for he moment. :) It does see the network card, it just isn't configuring it. Did I miss something in the configuration to tell it to use DHCP on it? -ste -- To UNS

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Alex Malinovich wrote: Try doing a ifdown eth0, followed by an ifup eth0. Assuming that you have a DHCP server active on the network, you should see it request and receive an IP. If there's any problems with it, send the output and we'll go from there. Ok, that gets it configured. It doesn't at boo

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Alex Malinovich wrote: You didn't mention what type of network adapter you're using. (Or if you did I forgot. :) You forgot. :) Is it onboard or a PCMCIA card? If it's a PCMCIA card the problem could be that the module isn't being loaded before ifup gets called. If that's the case you'll probably

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Shaun T. Erickson wrote: Alex Malinovich wrote: Is it onboard or a PCMCIA card? If it's a PCMCIA card the problem could be that the module isn't being loaded before ifup gets called. If that's the case you'll probably want to set up hotplug to automatically configure the interf

Debian boot order

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
I know this isn't exactly a laptop related question, but since that's where I'm doing my first debian install ... When debian boots up and goes into run level 2, does it run everything in /etc/rcS.d before running what's in rc2.d? What's the exact boot process for the system? -ste -- T

Re: List based subject line

2004-05-26 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Larry Colen wrote: I use this account for all my linux related mailing lists. All of the lists but this one have the list name at the start of the subject: ie. Subject: [debian-laptop] list based subject line I'd like to propose that this list do so as well. I can't be the only person who would fin

Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
I've always used Red Hat Linux, in the past. I'm trying different distros, looking for a successor to it, for personal use and to recommend at work, on our servers (I'm the admin). I've never used Debian before. I thought I'd start by installing it on my laptop (Dell Latitude CPx J750GT). Any

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Alex Malinovich wrote: The first thing to be aware of is that Debian doesn't do nearly as much auto-configuration for you as Red Hat. Don't expect X to 'just work'. You'll most likely have to do some hand editing of your XF86Config file. It might be a good idea to make a backup of your Red Hat o

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
I wrote: How do I use the Sarge installer? I booted the first CD, and I got something that appears to be very manual, when I hit return at the boot prompt. I think I understand now, but please correct me if I'm wrong. The 3.0 release I downloaded, is called "woody". The beta version of 3.1 i

Supported hardware list?

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
I'm looking on the site, and I can't find a list of what's supported. I can't get 3.0 to recognize any of my laptop's network cards. I have these to choose from: Xircom RealPort CardBus Ethernet 10/100+Modem 56 (RBEM56G-100) 3Com EtherLink III (3C589C) 3Com Megahertz 10/100 LAN CardBus PC Card

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Alex Malinovich wrote: Here's a link for the net-install iso. It's 110 MB. It'll do a base install at which point you connect to the internet to fetch the rest of the packages. http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/beta4/sarge-i386-netinst.iso I downloaded and burned it

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
I wrote: However, after setting up the local user account, it claims I'm not connected to the Internet. So, I tried to tell it to install from the cdrom, but it says it can't auto-detect a cdrom, so I'm rather stuck, atm. I'm an idiot. I must need coffee. :) The cdrom issue is that I didn't

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Shaun T. Erickson wrote: I wrote: Still don't know why it doesn't see the card though, but will forge ahead for he moment. :) It does see the network card, it just isn't configuring it. Did I miss something in the configuration to tell it to use DHCP on it? -ste

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Alex Malinovich wrote: Try doing a ifdown eth0, followed by an ifup eth0. Assuming that you have a DHCP server active on the network, you should see it request and receive an IP. If there's any problems with it, send the output and we'll go from there. Ok, that gets it configured. It doesn't a

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Alex Malinovich wrote: You didn't mention what type of network adapter you're using. (Or if you did I forgot. :) You forgot. :) Is it onboard or a PCMCIA card? If it's a PCMCIA card the problem could be that the module isn't being loaded before ifup gets called. If that's the case you'll pr

Re: Quick questestions before I start ...

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Shaun T. Erickson wrote: Alex Malinovich wrote: Is it onboard or a PCMCIA card? If it's a PCMCIA card the problem could be that the module isn't being loaded before ifup gets called. If that's the case you'll probably want to set up hotplug to automatically configure the i

Debian boot order

2004-05-23 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
I know this isn't exactly a laptop related question, but since that's where I'm doing my first debian install ... When debian boots up and goes into run level 2, does it run everything in /etc/rcS.d before running what's in rc2.d? What's the exact boot process for the system? -ste

Re: List based subject line

2004-05-26 Thread Shaun T. Erickson
Larry Colen wrote: I use this account for all my linux related mailing lists. All of the lists but this one have the list name at the start of the subject: ie. Subject: [debian-laptop] list based subject line I'd like to propose that this list do so as well. I can't be the only person who would