Re: richiesta ordine (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Andreas Schindler
Dave, first of all: we don't appreciate help by someone calling us idiots. If you argue about spam solutions, you better take a look at spamassassin & friends, which BTW are part of every Debian distro, and provide for real sophisticated professional anti-spam, before you offer your ridiculou

Re: richiesta ordine (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 20:17 +0100, Andreas Schindler wrote: > > To the list moderator: How about banning Dave from the list? There was > a similar case recently with the freeradius list and banning the > offending person was quite a success. Silence the messenger? While Dave's frustration seeme

Re: richiesta ordine (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Tao, Tchie
I think the objections are to his tone. On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 11:51 Jim Popovitch On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 20:17 +0100, Andreas Schindler wrote: > > > > To the list moderator: How about banning Dave from the list? There was > > a similar case recently with the freeradius list and banning the > > offe

Re: richiesta ordine (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Fraga, Eric
On Monday, 3 Dec 2018 at 09:57, Dave Horsfall wrote: > Have you idiots ever thought of implementing some simple anti-spam Have you ever learned how to behave in polite company? -- Eric S Fraga via Emacs 27.0.50 & org 9.1.14 on Debian buster/sid

Re: richiesta ordine (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 11:52 -0800, Tao, Tchie wrote: > I think the objections are to his tone. Well there are those here who would find fierce objections to top posting... ;-) That aside, I do think it's time for pitchforks+torches wrt the spam emanating bendel.debian.org. Dave's tone is warrant

Re: richiesta ordine (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Tao, Tchie
Perhaps someday he might learn to express his frustrations in some sort of constructive fashion rather than insulting folks and throwing a childish tantrum? On Mon, Dec 3, 2018, 12:04 Jim Popovitch On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 11:52 -0800, Tao, Tchie wrote: > > I think the objections are to his tone. >

Re: richiesta ordine (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 12:07 -0800, Tao, Tchie wrote: > Perhaps someday he might learn to express his frustrations in some > sort of constructive fashion rather than insulting folks and throwing > a childish tantrum? And perhaps someday the spammers will learn to respect others... but I'm not holdi

Re: richiesta ordine (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Mon, 03 Dec 2018, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 12:07 -0800, Tao, Tchie wrote: > > Perhaps someday he might learn to express his frustrations in some > > sort of constructive fashion rather than insulting folks and throwing > > a childish tantrum? > > And perhaps someday the spa

Re: richiesta ordine (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 21:38 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > I never got any patch of you for our anti spam measures, neither do I > got something from Dave.  > > Alex - Debian Listmaster Patch? I think you've identified the problem. A start would be to tighten or remove any out-of-the box chang

Re: richiesta ordine (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Mon, 03 Dec 2018, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 21:38 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > I never got any patch of you for our anti spam measures, neither do I > > got something from Dave.  > > > > Alex - Debian Listmaster > > Patch? I think you've identified the problem. > > A

Re: richiesta ordine (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 22:05 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > On Mon, 03 Dec 2018, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 21:38 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > I never got any patch of you for our anti spam measures, neither > > > do I > > > got something from Dave.  > > > > > > Alex -

Re: richiesta ordine (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Mon, 03 Dec 2018, Jim Popovitch wrote: > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 22:05 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > On Mon, 03 Dec 2018, Jim Popovitch wrote: > > > > > On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 21:38 +0100, Alexander Wirt wrote: > > > > I never got any patch of you for our anti spam measures, neither > > > > do

Re: [spam subject elided] (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Marvin Renich
* Jim Popovitch [181203 15:21]: > How long should Dave wait out the problem before insulting folks? 1 > month, 2 months, 6 months, 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 25 years? The correct answer is "much longer than 25 years". > At > what point should constructive feedback yield to insults, and at what

Re: [spam subject elided] (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Mon, 2018-12-03 at 22:33 -0500, Marvin Renich wrote: > Are you saying that because others have, in the past, resorted to > violence that it becomes justifiable?   No, I'm saying lessons learned from History are to always be respected and not ignored. > Over an offer to help that was sent to th

Re: [spam subject elided] (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Imre Vida
Guys, could you please just stop. The verbal attack was not justified - and can not be justified, even if there are/were some perceived problems. Human history is dominated by unfair aggression, but again: it does not and can not justify any aggression. Much appreciation to Debian and Debian-l

Re: [spam subject elided] (fwd)

2018-12-03 Thread Alexander Wirt
On Mon, 03 Dec 2018, Marvin Renich wrote: > * Jim Popovitch [181203 15:21]: > > How long should Dave wait out the problem before insulting folks? 1 > > month, 2 months, 6 months, 1 year, 5 years, 10 years, 25 years? > > The correct answer is "much longer than 25 years". He should at least wait