Re: powerbook and debian

2004-01-22 Thread Werner Heuser
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 09:07:53PM +0100, Angel wrote: > Are apple powerbooks and debian good friends? You may have a look at http://tuxmobil.org/apple.html there is a huge list of links to Linux installation reports on Apple laptops. There are different Linux distributions mentioned. IMHO PowerBo

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
On Thursday 22 January 2004 06:57, Russell Coker wrote: > Or APM. APM works fine on all 2.4.x kernels on all laptops I've tried, it > seems broken in 2.6 though. APM works here. As does ACPI. Running Kernel 2.6 from sid on an ASUS A1300 laptop. Anders -- This email was generated using KMail

automatic config of wireless when no cable is plugged

2004-01-22 Thread Pål Dahle
Hi, I have a Dell D600 running Debian/sid. The box is equipped with a "3Com 11 a/b/g Wireless PC Card" in addition to the default "Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5702 Gigabit Ethernet" The wireless interface runs nicely at 54Mb/s using the atheros driver extracted from the CVS server of the madwifi proje

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:05, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 22 January 2004 06:57, Russell Coker wrote: > > Or APM. APM works fine on all 2.4.x kernels on all laptops I've tried, > > it seems broken in 2.6 though. > > APM works here. As does ACPI. Running Kernel

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
On Thursday 22 January 2004 10:17, Russell Coker wrote: > > APM works here. As does ACPI. Running Kernel 2.6 from sid on an ASUS > > A1300 laptop. > > Do you have apmd installed? What happens when you do an APM suspend? Can't say, as I have never done that. I haven't felt the need to. I turn it

Re: powerbook and debian

2004-01-22 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 12:10:45PM +1100, Raymond Wan wrote: > I have no experience with Mac OS, either, but I heard that the OS > is based on Unix, so I don't see a reason for installing Debian over it. Surely, the same reasons as installing Debian over any RedHat... Y. -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Debian vs... ? (was RE: powerbook and debian)

2004-01-22 Thread Provost, Stephane
Hi everybody, This might be off-topic, but Yves started it :) We're evaluating a professional platform that can run enterprise applications. We need reliability, good threading, responsiveness, stability, performance, but also easy management (if there's such a thing) and good support. Sadly, th

Re: Debian vs... ? (was RE: powerbook and debian)

2004-01-22 Thread mmalten
Remember that distros can be merged. Using Red Hat or Mandrake, I installed using tarball. Using Debian, I used 'alien' to get RPMs into .deb format, and I still use tarballs. I believe Alan Cox once used the term "Slackhat" as an example of such hybrids. My point is: you can pick distro X bec

Re: Debian vs... ? (was RE: powerbook and debian)

2004-01-22 Thread James Horton
Hello Stephanie, Here are some ideas you might use. Debian Testing, can use a 2.6.x kernel, today. I do not believe, but I'm not certain, that RH does not TODAY have 2.6.x kernels available. What's important about 2.6.x ? a. Security. Russell Coker's work on the NSA's SElinux code is g

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:05, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 22 January 2004 10:17, Russell Coker wrote: > > > APM works here. As does ACPI. Running Kernel 2.6 from sid on an ASUS > > > A1300 laptop. > > > > Do you have apmd installed? What happens when you do an

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
On Thursday 22 January 2004 19:11, Russell Coker wrote: > > So from my perspective apm "works" as long as the fans start up before > > the cpu burns a whole through the keyboard. > > Therefore you have not tested Linux APM support at all! Probably if you > test it you will discover that it doesn'

USB Adapter not for Cardbus but 16bit PCMCIA

2004-01-22 Thread Marcel Meckel
Hello, i searched google and ebay up and down, asked me through several irc channels and crawled more than a dozen of selling platforms in the internet but i couldn't find an USB PCMCIA Adapter for my old (i don't think it's old) Laptop which has no 32bit Cardbus but only 16bit PCMCIA. So i ask y

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 07:21:26PM +0100, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: > How do you then explain that without APM or ACPI, the fans do not start up > leaving the system frozen after even small amounts of CPU load? If the fans don't start up, your system freezes? That's unexepected, I'd though

Re: USB Adapter not for Cardbus but 16bit PCMCIA

2004-01-22 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Marcel Meckel: > > i searched google and ebay up and down, asked me through several irc > channels and crawled more than a dozen of selling platforms in the > internet but i couldn't find an USB PCMCIA Adapter for my old (i don't > think it's old) Laptop which has no 32bit Cardbus bu

Re: USB Adapter not for Cardbus but 16bit PCMCIA

2004-01-22 Thread Marcel Meckel
> Incoming from Marcel Meckel: > > So i ask you - did someone of you ever heard about an USB Adapter > > which can be used with 16bit PCMCIA interface? > I'm speaking from ignorance here, but are you sure it's not backward > compatible? Ie., maybe Cardbus slots can accept/handle 16 bit > pcmcia/

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Mika Fischer
Russell Coker wrote: > Or APM. APM works fine on all 2.4.x kernels on all laptops I've tried, it > seems broken in 2.6 though. I'm running 2.6.1-mm4 on a ThinkPad R40 2722-CDG with APM. Suspend and Hibernation work as well as in 2.4.24. They didn't in earlier versions of 2.6, though... I didn't

Re: Just some questions

2004-01-22 Thread Hermann Moser
On Wednesday, 21. January 2004 23:48, M. Mueller wrote: > Try Knoppix first - runs off CD. Then google on how to load Knoppix > to your hard disk. On my new laptop, Asus M6800N, Knoppix V 3.3 always freezes if I'm working with the ac-adaptor, without mostly not. Now it runs with SuSE 9.0, but thi

cursor problem please help!!!!!

2004-01-22 Thread Adile
i am very sorry if this isn't anything you can be bothered about, but if you have any info to impart on it, you will be a figure of myth and legend, and my hero, and there will be a movie about you and it will be huge. or whatever you like, cars, houses... here it is:   just got a toshiba laptop

Re: cursor problem please help!!!!!

2004-01-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > just got a toshiba laptop because we had this wretched little compaq (that > we will now drive over with an SUV and crush to a fine dust). the compaq > had this nefarious little quirk... as you passed the cursor over anything, > an icon or text,

Re: cursor problem please help!!!!!

2004-01-22 Thread Arjen Verweij
Most likely a mouse misconfigured, or a touchpad with tapping enabled? Try disabling tapping from the touchpad is what springs to my mind. On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i am very sorry if this isn't anything you can be bothered about, but if you > have any info to impart on it, y

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 05:21, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > APM does not permit the OS to control fans etc. It is totally different > > to ACPI. The fact that your fan works is a matter of hardware and BIOS, > > if it didn't work then it would not be any fault of Linux's

Re: Just some questions

2004-01-22 Thread Martin Röhricht
On 22.01.2004 18:11 Hermann Moser wrote: On Wednesday, 21. January 2004 23:48, M. Mueller wrote: Try Knoppix first - runs off CD. Then google on how to load Knoppix to your hard disk. On my new laptop, Asus M6800N, Knoppix V 3.3 always freezes if I'm working with the ac-adaptor, without mostly not

Re: cursor problem please help!!!!!

2004-01-22 Thread Brian Kelsay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so imagine my surprise when the minute i start typing on the brand new toshiba, the very same thing is happening, with the same frequency. i feel like it might have to do with static electricity, i don't even know why i think that, but it's all that comes to me, and i a

Re: USB Adapter not for Cardbus but 16bit PCMCIA

2004-01-22 Thread Brian Kelsay
Marcel Meckel wrote: You don't understand me :) 32bit Cardbus is downwards compatible, sure. You can insert a 16bit PCMCIA card into 32bit Cardbus slot. But: You can *not* insert a 32bit Cardbus Card into a 16bit PCMCIA slot. And my laptop has such an ancient :) 16bit PCMCIA interface, not a 32bi

Re: powerbook and debian

2004-01-22 Thread Werner Heuser
On Wed, Jan 21, 2004 at 09:07:53PM +0100, Angel wrote: > Are apple powerbooks and debian good friends? You may have a look at http://tuxmobil.org/apple.html there is a huge list of links to Linux installation reports on Apple laptops. There are different Linux distributions mentioned. IMHO PowerBo

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
On Thursday 22 January 2004 06:57, Russell Coker wrote: > Or APM. APM works fine on all 2.4.x kernels on all laptops I've tried, it > seems broken in 2.6 though. APM works here. As does ACPI. Running Kernel 2.6 from sid on an ASUS A1300 laptop. Anders -- This email was generated using KMail

automatic config of wireless when no cable is plugged

2004-01-22 Thread Pål Dahle
Hi, I have a Dell D600 running Debian/sid. The box is equipped with a "3Com 11 a/b/g Wireless PC Card" in addition to the default "Broadcom NetXtreme BCM5702 Gigabit Ethernet" The wireless interface runs nicely at 54Mb/s using the atheros driver extracted from the CVS server of the madwifi proje

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 18:05, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 22 January 2004 06:57, Russell Coker wrote: > > Or APM. APM works fine on all 2.4.x kernels on all laptops I've tried, > > it seems broken in 2.6 though. > > APM works here. As does ACPI. Running Kernel

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
On Thursday 22 January 2004 10:17, Russell Coker wrote: > > APM works here. As does ACPI. Running Kernel 2.6 from sid on an ASUS > > A1300 laptop. > > Do you have apmd installed? What happens when you do an APM suspend? Can't say, as I have never done that. I haven't felt the need to. I turn it

Re: powerbook and debian

2004-01-22 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 12:10:45PM +1100, Raymond Wan wrote: > I have no experience with Mac OS, either, but I heard that the OS > is based on Unix, so I don't see a reason for installing Debian over it. Surely, the same reasons as installing Debian over any RedHat... Y.

Debian vs... ? (was RE: powerbook and debian)

2004-01-22 Thread Provost, Stephane
Hi everybody, This might be off-topic, but Yves started it :) We're evaluating a professional platform that can run enterprise applications. We need reliability, good threading, responsiveness, stability, performance, but also easy management (if there's such a thing) and good support. Sadly, th

Re: Debian vs... ? (was RE: powerbook and debian)

2004-01-22 Thread mmalten
Remember that distros can be merged. Using Red Hat or Mandrake, I installed using tarball. Using Debian, I used 'alien' to get RPMs into .deb format, and I still use tarballs. I believe Alan Cox once used the term "Slackhat" as an example of such hybrids. My point is: you can pick distro X bec

Re: Debian vs... ? (was RE: powerbook and debian)

2004-01-22 Thread James Horton
Hello Stephanie, Here are some ideas you might use. Debian Testing, can use a 2.6.x kernel, today. I do not believe, but I'm not certain, that RH does not TODAY have 2.6.x kernels available. What's important about 2.6.x ? a. Security. Russell Coker's work on the NSA's SElinux code is

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 21:05, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thursday 22 January 2004 10:17, Russell Coker wrote: > > > APM works here. As does ACPI. Running Kernel 2.6 from sid on an ASUS > > > A1300 laptop. > > > > Do you have apmd installed? What happens when you do an

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
On Thursday 22 January 2004 19:11, Russell Coker wrote: > > So from my perspective apm "works" as long as the fans start up before > > the cpu burns a whole through the keyboard. > > Therefore you have not tested Linux APM support at all! Probably if you > test it you will discover that it doesn'

USB Adapter not for Cardbus but 16bit PCMCIA

2004-01-22 Thread Marcel Meckel
Hello, i searched google and ebay up and down, asked me through several irc channels and crawled more than a dozen of selling platforms in the internet but i couldn't find an USB PCMCIA Adapter for my old (i don't think it's old) Laptop which has no 32bit Cardbus but only 16bit PCMCIA. So i ask y

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Thu, Jan 22, 2004 at 07:21:26PM +0100, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote: > How do you then explain that without APM or ACPI, the fans do not start up > leaving the system frozen after even small amounts of CPU load? If the fans don't start up, your system freezes? That's unexepected, I'd though

Re: USB Adapter not for Cardbus but 16bit PCMCIA

2004-01-22 Thread s. keeling
Incoming from Marcel Meckel: > > i searched google and ebay up and down, asked me through several irc > channels and crawled more than a dozen of selling platforms in the > internet but i couldn't find an USB PCMCIA Adapter for my old (i don't > think it's old) Laptop which has no 32bit Cardbus bu

Re: USB Adapter not for Cardbus but 16bit PCMCIA

2004-01-22 Thread Marcel Meckel
> Incoming from Marcel Meckel: > > So i ask you - did someone of you ever heard about an USB Adapter > > which can be used with 16bit PCMCIA interface? > I'm speaking from ignorance here, but are you sure it's not backward > compatible? Ie., maybe Cardbus slots can accept/handle 16 bit > pcmcia/

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Mika Fischer
Russell Coker wrote: > Or APM. APM works fine on all 2.4.x kernels on all laptops I've tried, it > seems broken in 2.6 though. I'm running 2.6.1-mm4 on a ThinkPad R40 2722-CDG with APM. Suspend and Hibernation work as well as in 2.4.24. They didn't in earlier versions of 2.6, though... I didn't

Re: Just some questions

2004-01-22 Thread Hermann Moser
On Wednesday, 21. January 2004 23:48, M. Mueller wrote: > Try Knoppix first - runs off CD. Then google on how to load Knoppix > to your hard disk. On my new laptop, Asus M6800N, Knoppix V 3.3 always freezes if I'm working with the ac-adaptor, without mostly not. Now it runs with SuSE 9.0, but thi

cursor problem please help!!!!!

2004-01-22 Thread Adile
i am very sorry if this isn't anything you can be bothered about, but if you have any info to impart on it, you will be a figure of myth and legend, and my hero, and there will be a movie about you and it will be huge. or whatever you like, cars, houses... here it is:   just got a toshiba laptop

Re: cursor problem please help!!!!!

2004-01-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 09:25, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > just got a toshiba laptop because we had this wretched little compaq (that > we will now drive over with an SUV and crush to a fine dust). the compaq > had this nefarious little quirk... as you passed the cursor over anything, > an icon or text,

Re: cursor problem please help!!!!!

2004-01-22 Thread Arjen Verweij
Most likely a mouse misconfigured, or a touchpad with tapping enabled? Try disabling tapping from the touchpad is what springs to my mind. On Thu, 22 Jan 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > i am very sorry if this isn't anything you can be bothered about, but if you > have any info to impart on it, y

Re: questions on ACPI

2004-01-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 05:21, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > APM does not permit the OS to control fans etc. It is totally different > > to ACPI. The fact that your fan works is a matter of hardware and BIOS, > > if it didn't work then it would not be any fault of Linux's

Re: Just some questions

2004-01-22 Thread Martin Röhricht
On 22.01.2004 18:11 Hermann Moser wrote: On Wednesday, 21. January 2004 23:48, M. Mueller wrote: Try Knoppix first - runs off CD. Then google on how to load Knoppix to your hard disk. On my new laptop, Asus M6800N, Knoppix V 3.3 always freezes if I'm working with the ac-adaptor, without mostl

Re: cursor problem please help!!!!!

2004-01-22 Thread Brian Kelsay
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so imagine my surprise when the minute i start typing on the brand new toshiba, the very same thing is happening, with the same frequency. i feel like it might have to do with static electricity, i don't even know why i think that, but it's all that comes to me, and i

Re: USB Adapter not for Cardbus but 16bit PCMCIA

2004-01-22 Thread Brian Kelsay
Marcel Meckel wrote: You don't understand me :) 32bit Cardbus is downwards compatible, sure. You can insert a 16bit PCMCIA card into 32bit Cardbus slot. But: You can *not* insert a 32bit Cardbus Card into a 16bit PCMCIA slot. And my laptop has such an ancient :) 16bit PCMCIA interface, not a 3