Ext3 on HP ZT 3010ea and overhead

2004-09-17 Thread Marco Guidetti
Hey all, not sure this is a laptop problem at all, but since it's happening only on my laptop i guess it is :) i installed Debian on my laptop choosing ext3 as fs. When i move large files on the filesystem, or i download large files via ssh, sometimes happens that the _whole_ system freeze

Ext3 on HP ZT 3010ea and overhead

2004-09-17 Thread Marco Guidetti
Hey all, not sure this is a laptop problem at all, but since it's happening only on my laptop i guess it is :) i installed Debian on my laptop choosing ext3 as fs. When i move large files on the filesystem, or i download large files via ssh, sometimes happens that the _whole_ system freeze

ext2/ext3/vfat on laptop vs. desktop

2004-03-10 Thread StefanGoessling
Dear people, another not-quite-laptop-related-but-only-happens-here story: After I switched to ext3 on my installation partition (Acer TM 803, Debian stable/testing, based on Knoppix 3.2, heavily upgraded) I noticed a severe performance loss. Actually, the system suddenly felt quite sluggish

ext2/ext3/vfat on laptop vs. desktop

2004-03-10 Thread StefanGoessling
Dear people, another not-quite-laptop-related-but-only-happens-here story: After I switched to ext3 on my installation partition (Acer TM 803, Debian stable/testing, based on Knoppix 3.2, heavily upgraded) I noticed a severe performance loss. Actually, the system suddenly felt quite sluggish

Re: netinstall ext3, lilo, apm and acpi

2003-04-21 Thread Rudy Gevaert
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 06:26:19PM +0200, Mark Janssen wrote: > As opposed to suspend to disk, where all memory state is copied to disk > and restored to memory at the next boot. (This is also possible, using > some nice kernel patches) Ah, and this is then called hibernate? -- Rudy Gevaert

Re: netinstall ext3, lilo, apm and acpi

2003-04-21 Thread Mark Janssen
On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 14:49, Rudy Gevaert wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 02:20:58PM +0200, Mark Janssen wrote: > > > APM works... but only suspend to memory... so it eats power (less then 5 > > hours on my beast) > > What do you mean with only suspend to memory? Running in low power mode, with

Re: netinstall ext3, lilo, apm and acpi

2003-04-21 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 02:49:25PM +0200, Rudy Gevaert wrote: > On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 02:20:58PM +0200, Mark Janssen wrote: > > > APM works... but only suspend to memory... so it eats power (less then 5 > > hours on my beast) > > What do you mean with only suspend to memory? suspend to memory [

Re: netinstall ext3, lilo, apm and acpi

2003-04-21 Thread Rudy Gevaert
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 02:20:58PM +0200, Mark Janssen wrote: > APM works... but only suspend to memory... so it eats power (less then 5 > hours on my beast) What do you mean with only suspend to memory? Thanks in advance -- Rudy Gevaert[EMAIL PROTECTED] Web page

Re: netinstall ext3, lilo, apm and acpi

2003-04-21 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Mon, Apr 21, 2003 at 07:30:22AM -0400, Mitchell Gil Maltenfort wrote: > > Also, will it be possible to resize ntfs partitions with cfdist/fdisk? > > I want to shrink the winxp partion so I can use the laptop when the > > install doesn't work at once. What with lilo? Do thinkpads work with > >

Re: netinstall ext3, lilo, apm and acpi

2003-04-21 Thread Mark Janssen
On Mon, 2003-04-21 at 13:02, Rudy Gevaert wrote: > Because the laptop comes with only a DVD/CDROM player I will have to > install from CDROM. I will first start with a netinstall booted from > CDROM. Does anybody know a iso with ext3 support? The LordSutch.com netinst boot-cd's

Re: netinstall ext3, lilo, apm and acpi

2003-04-21 Thread Mitchell Gil Maltenfort
> So Debian it is. > > Because the laptop comes with only a DVD/CDROM player I will have to > install from CDROM. I will first start with a netinstall booted from > CDROM. Does anybody know a iso with ext3 support? The CheapBytes disks gave me the option of ext2, ext3 or

netinstall ext3, lilo, apm and acpi

2003-04-21 Thread Rudy Gevaert
have to install from CDROM. I will first start with a netinstall booted from CDROM. Does anybody know a iso with ext3 support? Also, will it be possible to resize ntfs partitions with cfdist/fdisk? I want to shrink the winxp partion so I can use the laptop when the install doesn't work at o

Re: checking root-filesystem after crash / grub / ext3

2003-03-11 Thread Derek Broughton
From: "mi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Derek Broughton: > > and I run into the 20-mount limit at least once a week. > So ext3 has to be checked regularily, too ? > I remember there's a 'tune2fs' option to turn it off - is this untrusted ? I just figured

Re: checking root-filesystem after crash / grub / ext3

2003-03-11 Thread Derek Broughton
From: "mi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Derek Broughton: > > and I run into the 20-mount limit at least once a week. > So ext3 has to be checked regularily, too ? > I remember there's a 'tune2fs' option to turn it off - is this untrusted ? I just figured

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-11 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:36, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Martin Fluch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.10.1825 +0100]: > > No problem. There is no diference between ext3 and ext2 file system in > > this case. > > ... provided that you did properly umount the filesy

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-11 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:36, martin f krafft wrote: > also sprach Martin Fluch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.10.1825 +0100]: > > No problem. There is no diference between ext3 and ext2 file system in > > this case. > > ... provided that you did properly umount the filesy

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martin Fluch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.10.1825 +0100]: > No problem. There is no diference between ext3 and ext2 file system in > this case. ... provided that you did properly umount the filesystem before. accessing an ext3 filesystem as ext2 without it being umount&#

Re: checking root-filesystem after crash / grub / ext3

2003-03-10 Thread mi
Thanks, all, for your answers ! Good to hear they're easy, grub and ext3 :) Derek Broughton: > and I run into the 20-mount limit at least once a week. So ext3 has to be checked regularily, too ? I remember there's a 'tune2fs' option to turn it off - is this untrusted ? &

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Martin Fluch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.10.1825 +0100]: > No problem. There is no diference between ext3 and ext2 file system in > this case. ... provided that you did properly umount the filesystem before. accessing an ext3 filesystem as ext2 without it being umount&#

Re: checking root-filesystem after crash / grub / ext3

2003-03-10 Thread mi
Thanks, all, for your answers ! Good to hear they're easy, grub and ext3 :) Derek Broughton: > and I run into the 20-mount limit at least once a week. So ext3 has to be checked regularily, too ? I remember there's a 'tune2fs' option to turn it off - is this untrusted ? &

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach mi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.10.1712 +0100]: > Does anybody know if grub can boot a kernel from an ext3 rootfilesystem, > ( with a /boot directory) - or if it's necessary to have an ext2 /boot > partition then ? i am doing so right here. yes, it works. --

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread Douglas G. Phillips
On 10 Mar, Jason Kraftcheck wrote: > mi wrote: > >Does anybody know if grub can boot a kernel from an ext3 rootfilesystem, > >( with a /boot directory) - or if it's necessary to have an ext2 /boot > >partition then ? > >Didn't found anything explicit

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Monday 10 March 2003 17:12, mi wrote: > Does anybody know if grub can boot a kernel from an ext3 rootfilesystem, > ( with a /boot directory) - or if it's necessary to have an ext2 /boot > partition then ? > Didn't found anything explicitly in the docs... Basically, ext

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread Martin Fluch
No problem. There is no diference between ext3 and ext2 file system in this case. - Martin On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, mi wrote: > Does anybody know if grub can boot a kernel from an ext3 rootfilesystem, > ( with a /boot directory) - or if it's necessary to have an ext2 /boot >

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread Jason Kraftcheck
mi wrote: Does anybody know if grub can boot a kernel from an ext3 rootfilesystem, ( with a /boot directory) - or if it's necessary to have an ext2 /boot partition then ? Didn't found anything explicitly in the docs... As an ext3 filesystem can be mounted as ext2, I would

grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread mi
Does anybody know if grub can boot a kernel from an ext3 rootfilesystem, ( with a /boot directory) - or if it's necessary to have an ext2 /boot partition then ? Didn't found anything explicitly i

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach mi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.03.10.1712 +0100]: > Does anybody know if grub can boot a kernel from an ext3 rootfilesystem, > ( with a /boot directory) - or if it's necessary to have an ext2 /boot > partition then ? i am doing so right here. yes, it works. --

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread Douglas G. Phillips
On 10 Mar, Jason Kraftcheck wrote: > mi wrote: > >Does anybody know if grub can boot a kernel from an ext3 rootfilesystem, > >( with a /boot directory) - or if it's necessary to have an ext2 /boot > >partition then ? > >Didn't found anything explicit

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread Mike Hommey
On Monday 10 March 2003 17:12, mi wrote: > Does anybody know if grub can boot a kernel from an ext3 rootfilesystem, > ( with a /boot directory) - or if it's necessary to have an ext2 /boot > partition then ? > Didn't found anything explicitly in the docs... Basically, ext

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread Martin Fluch
No problem. There is no diference between ext3 and ext2 file system in this case. - Martin On Mon, 10 Mar 2003, mi wrote: > Does anybody know if grub can boot a kernel from an ext3 rootfilesystem, > ( with a /boot directory) - or if it's necessary to have an ext2 /boot >

Re: grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread Jason Kraftcheck
mi wrote: Does anybody know if grub can boot a kernel from an ext3 rootfilesystem, ( with a /boot directory) - or if it's necessary to have an ext2 /boot partition then ? Didn't found anything explicitly in the docs... As an ext3 filesystem can be mounted as ext2, I would think gru

grub on ext3

2003-03-10 Thread mi
Does anybody know if grub can boot a kernel from an ext3 rootfilesystem, ( with a /boot directory) - or if it's necessary to have an ext2 /boot partition then ? Didn't found anything explicitly i

Re: ext3

2001-12-11 Thread Russell Coker
if the data I write is important enough, I can > > always save, and then issue a sync command. > > Well, yes. If you defeat the five second journal sync in ext3, though, > and use something like noflushd or a high bdflush interval to keep data > in RAM, you lose the reliabilit

Re: ext3

2001-12-11 Thread Russell Coker
f course, if the data I write is important enough, I can > > always save, and then issue a sync command. > > Well, yes. If you defeat the five second journal sync in ext3, though, > and use something like noflushd or a high bdflush interval to keep data > in RAM, you lose the reliabilit

Re: ext3

2001-12-10 Thread Daniel Pittman
hat in again. If the fs dies, I can't rewrite it from > scratch. Of course, if the data I write is important enough, I can > always save, and then issue a sync command. Well, yes. If you defeat the five second journal sync in ext3, though, and use something like noflushd or a high bd

Re: ext3

2001-12-10 Thread Daniel Pittman
hat in again. If the fs dies, I can't rewrite it from > scratch. Of course, if the data I write is important enough, I can > always save, and then issue a sync command. Well, yes. If you defeat the five second journal sync in ext3, though, and use something like noflushd or a high bd

Re: ext3

2001-12-10 Thread Nagy Gabor
On 01-Dec-10 10:40, Daniel Pittman wrote: > OTOH, there is a little cognitive dissonance in having a journaling > filesystem and keeping data in memory longer: one is to increase > reliability at the cost of performance, the other decreases reliability > in return for greater performance.[1] Actua

Re: ext3

2001-12-10 Thread Nagy Gabor
On 01-Dec-10 10:40, Daniel Pittman wrote: > OTOH, there is a little cognitive dissonance in having a journaling > filesystem and keeping data in memory longer: one is to increase > reliability at the cost of performance, the other decreases reliability > in return for greater performance.[1] Actu

Re: ext3

2001-12-09 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Mark Brown wrote: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 09:02:36AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > >> does ext3 work with notebooks in that it will still allow for drive >> parking and all that power saving goodness? > > It'll work just fine but it'll keep

Re: ext3

2001-12-09 Thread Daniel Pittman
On Sun, 9 Dec 2001, Mark Brown wrote: > On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 09:02:36AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > >> does ext3 work with notebooks in that it will still allow for drive >> parking and all that power saving goodness? > > It'll work just fine but it'll keep

Re: ext3

2001-12-09 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 09:02:36AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > does ext3 work with notebooks in that it will still allow for drive > parking and all that power saving goodness? It'll work just fine but it'll keep the disk spinning since it writes to disk every so often (the freq

ext3

2001-12-09 Thread Tom Allison
does ext3 work with notebooks in that it will still allow for drive parking and all that power saving goodness?

Re: ext3

2001-12-09 Thread Mark Brown
On Sun, Dec 09, 2001 at 09:02:36AM -0500, Tom Allison wrote: > does ext3 work with notebooks in that it will still allow for drive > parking and all that power saving goodness? It'll work just fine but it'll keep the disk spinning since it writes to disk every so often (th

ext3

2001-12-09 Thread Tom Allison
does ext3 work with notebooks in that it will still allow for drive parking and all that power saving goodness? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]