Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-15 Thread wandering jason
--- Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can afford a laptop but you can't afford a > passenger train ticket? i can't really afford either, but, as i need a computer for my research and projects, i'll have to find a way to get one. train hopping is a very beautiful and empowering exper

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-15 Thread wandering jason
--- Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You can afford a laptop but you can't afford a > passenger train ticket? i can't really afford either, but, as i need a computer for my research and projects, i'll have to find a way to get one. train hopping is a very beautiful and empowering expe

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread Nick
rain surf challenge. Nick - Original Message - From: "noah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:08 AM Subject: Re: debian laptop for a train hopper > At 03:27 PM 14/04/2002, martin f krafft wrote: > >and even though michael dell and bill gates h

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread noah
At 03:27 PM 14/04/2002, martin f krafft wrote: and even though michael dell and bill gates have sex with each other, dell's laptops are not that linux-friendly, and their attitude towards support and the way to handle clients is below zero, their systems are still very reliable and robust, IMHO.

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread Nick
rain surf challenge. Nick - Original Message - From: "noah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2002 1:08 AM Subject: Re: debian laptop for a train hopper > At 03:27 PM 14/04/2002, martin f krafft wrote: > >and even though m

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread noah
At 03:27 PM 14/04/2002, martin f krafft wrote: >and even though michael dell and bill gates have sex with each other, >dell's laptops are not that linux-friendly, and their attitude towards >support and the way to handle clients is below zero, their systems are >still very reliable and robust, IMH

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.04.14.2200 +0200]: > If they were really capitalistic then they would provide half-decent support > for Linux (not full support because they know we don't need hand-holding and > they want to save money). > > Linux users make up a reasonable sl

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:27, martin f krafft wrote: > but before i'd buy another dell, i'd think thrice about it. they are > capitalist arseholes, blinded by money and seemingly uninterested to > let their clients run anything but micro$oft... If they were really capitalistic then they would provide

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.04.14.2009 +0200]: > but yes, i second. and it's sturdy as hell. meaning: i've punched the > ones i had and they've fallen down several meters, and they're running > like a charm :_) and even though michael dell and bill gates have sex with eac

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dennis Kibbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.04.14.1826 +0200]: > You can pick them up on eBay for under US$250 with a 2gig HD, 80Mb > RAM. Mine runs Potato just fine and I've loaded SUSE 7.1 on another > with acceptable performance using the KDE desktop. Considering the > price and the fact

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.04.14.2200 +0200]: > If they were really capitalistic then they would provide half-decent support > for Linux (not full support because they know we don't need hand-holding and > they want to save money). > > Linux users make up a reasonable s

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread Dennis Kibbe
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:24:15PM -0700, wandering jason wrote: > hello everyone, > > i'm trying to make a decision on which laptop to > purchase. i've great respect for the debian community, > and so i thought i'd ask for advice here. > > i'll use the laptop mostly for programming, writing, > b

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 14 Apr 2002 21:27, martin f krafft wrote: > but before i'd buy another dell, i'd think thrice about it. they are > capitalist arseholes, blinded by money and seemingly uninterested to > let their clients run anything but micro$oft... If they were really capitalistic then they would provid

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.04.14.2009 +0200]: > but yes, i second. and it's sturdy as hell. meaning: i've punched the > ones i had and they've fallen down several meters, and they're running > like a charm :_) and even though michael dell and bill gates have sex with ea

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Dennis Kibbe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.04.14.1826 +0200]: > You can pick them up on eBay for under US$250 with a 2gig HD, 80Mb > RAM. Mine runs Potato just fine and I've loaded SUSE 7.1 on another > with acceptable performance using the KDE desktop. Considering the > price and the fact

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-14 Thread Dennis Kibbe
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:24:15PM -0700, wandering jason wrote: > hello everyone, > > i'm trying to make a decision on which laptop to > purchase. i've great respect for the debian community, > and so i thought i'd ask for advice here. > > i'll use the laptop mostly for programming, writing, >

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:44, CaT wrote: > On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 02:27:05PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > > Probably if I was going to do what you're planning I'd get an old > > Thinkpad 385XD. PentiumMMX-233, 96M of RAM, 3G hard drive, 800x600 > > display, it's quite an OK little machine. Such a

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-13 Thread CaT
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 02:27:05PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > Probably if I was going to do what you're planning I'd get an old Thinkpad > 385XD. PentiumMMX-233, 96M of RAM, 3G hard drive, 800x600 display, it's > quite an OK little machine. Such a machine is so cheap now that if you break >

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 17:44, CaT wrote: > On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 02:27:05PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > > Probably if I was going to do what you're planning I'd get an old > > Thinkpad 385XD. PentiumMMX-233, 96M of RAM, 3G hard drive, 800x600 > > display, it's quite an OK little machine. Such a

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-13 Thread Heather Stern
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 02:27:05PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 02:24, wandering jason wrote: > > i'm trying to make a decision on which laptop to > > purchase. i've great respect for the debian community, > > and so i thought i'd ask for advice here. > > > > i'll use the lapto

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-13 Thread Judd Maltin
I pitched my HP Omnibook 6000 across the room.. 16 feet of air, through a vase and wedged into drywall. It still works like a charm. Crash test laptop. -judd On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:58:49PM -0700, Glen Mehn wrote: > I've had great luck with ThinkPads in the past. They are quite expensive,

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-13 Thread CaT
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 02:27:05PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > Probably if I was going to do what you're planning I'd get an old Thinkpad > 385XD. PentiumMMX-233, 96M of RAM, 3G hard drive, 800x600 display, it's > quite an OK little machine. Such a machine is so cheap now that if you break

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-13 Thread Heather Stern
On Sat, Apr 13, 2002 at 02:27:05PM +0200, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 02:24, wandering jason wrote: > > i'm trying to make a decision on which laptop to > > purchase. i've great respect for the debian community, > > and so i thought i'd ask for advice here. > > > > i'll use the lapt

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 02:24, wandering jason wrote: > i'm trying to make a decision on which laptop to > purchase. i've great respect for the debian community, > and so i thought i'd ask for advice here. > > i'll use the laptop mostly for programming, writing, > browsing, and listening to news and le

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-13 Thread Judd Maltin
I pitched my HP Omnibook 6000 across the room.. 16 feet of air, through a vase and wedged into drywall. It still works like a charm. Crash test laptop. -judd On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:58:49PM -0700, Glen Mehn wrote: > I've had great luck with ThinkPads in the past. They are quite expensive,

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 13 Apr 2002 02:24, wandering jason wrote: > i'm trying to make a decision on which laptop to > purchase. i've great respect for the debian community, > and so i thought i'd ask for advice here. > > i'll use the laptop mostly for programming, writing, > browsing, and listening to news and l

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-13 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Glen" == Glen Mehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Glen> I've had great luck with ThinkPads in the past. They are quite Glen> expensive, however, but if that's not a factor. The T-23s have Glen> some sort of titanium cover that makes them 'more res

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-12 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Glen" == Glen Mehn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Glen> I've had great luck with ThinkPads in the past. They are quite Glen> expensive, however, but if that's not a factor. The T-23s have Glen> some sort of titanium cover that makes them 'more re

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-12 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Heather" == Heather Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Heather> On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:24:15PM -0700, wandering jason Heather> wrote: >> >> i'll use the laptop mostly for programming, writing, browsing, >> and listening to news and lectures. i need something that will

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-12 Thread possum
n't carry anything you're not ready to give away at the sight of a weapon. possum - Original Message - From: "wandering jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-laptop" Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:24 PM Subject: debian laptop for a train hopper >

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-12 Thread Glen Mehn
I've had great luck with ThinkPads in the past. They are quite expensive, however, but if that's not a factor. The T-23s have some sort of titanium cover that makes them 'more resistant', although train hopping probably isn't quite what IBM had in mind when making them. Somewhat heavier (I dunn

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-12 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Heather" == Heather Stern <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Heather> On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:24:15PM -0700, wandering jason Heather> wrote: >> >> i'll use the laptop mostly for programming, writing, browsing, >> and listening to news and lectures. i need something that wil

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-12 Thread possum
but don't carry anything you're not ready to give away at the sight of a weapon. possum - Original Message - From: "wandering jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "debian-laptop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 7:24 PM Subject: debian

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-12 Thread Heather Stern
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:24:15PM -0700, wandering jason wrote: > hello everyone, > > i'm trying to make a decision on which laptop to > purchase. i've great respect for the debian community, > and so i thought i'd ask for advice here. > > i'll use the laptop mostly for programming, writing, > b

debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-12 Thread wandering jason
hello everyone, i'm trying to make a decision on which laptop to purchase. i've great respect for the debian community, and so i thought i'd ask for advice here. i'll use the laptop mostly for programming, writing, browsing, and listening to news and lectures. i need something that will run fine

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-12 Thread Glen Mehn
I've had great luck with ThinkPads in the past. They are quite expensive, however, but if that's not a factor. The T-23s have some sort of titanium cover that makes them 'more resistant', although train hopping probably isn't quite what IBM had in mind when making them. Somewhat heavier (I dun

Re: debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-12 Thread Heather Stern
On Fri, Apr 12, 2002 at 05:24:15PM -0700, wandering jason wrote: > hello everyone, > > i'm trying to make a decision on which laptop to > purchase. i've great respect for the debian community, > and so i thought i'd ask for advice here. > > i'll use the laptop mostly for programming, writing, >

debian laptop for a train hopper

2002-04-12 Thread wandering jason
hello everyone, i'm trying to make a decision on which laptop to purchase. i've great respect for the debian community, and so i thought i'd ask for advice here. i'll use the laptop mostly for programming, writing, browsing, and listening to news and lectures. i need something that will run fin