Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

Anders Jackson writes: > We should probably have some declarative programming language for this > system, like the new system controlling Linux kernel compilation (don't > remember the name of it). CML2. See -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On 9 Dec 2001, Anders Jackson wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sun, 09 Dec 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote: > > > I think there aren't enough runlevels for this. I wouldn't want to be > > > restricted to just three choices. > > > > Runlevels 7 to 9 are avail

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

Anders Jackson writes: > We should probably have some declarative programming language for this > system, like the new system controlling Linux kernel compilation (don't > remember the name of it). CML2. See -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hil

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On 9 Dec 2001, Anders Jackson wrote: > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Sun, 09 Dec 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote: > > > I think there aren't enough runlevels for this. I wouldn't want to be > > > restricted to just three choices. > > > > Runlevels 7 to 9 are avai

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 09 Dec 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote: > > I think there aren't enough runlevels for this. I wouldn't want to be > > restricted to just three choices. > > Runlevels 7 to 9 are available, as well. Still to few for generic use. Only

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

David Roundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 06:56:30PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: [...] > After some thought, I think that perhaps we need three separate tools for > three separate jobs (but which would, of course, work together). As I see > it, I have three things that I'

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, 09 Dec 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote: > > I think there aren't enough runlevels for this. I wouldn't want to be > > restricted to just three choices. > > Runlevels 7 to 9 are available, as well. Still to few for generic use. Only

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

David Roundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 06:56:30PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: [...] > After some thought, I think that perhaps we need three separate tools for > three separate jobs (but which would, of course, work together). As I see > it, I have three things that I

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On Sun, 09 Dec 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote: > I think there aren't enough runlevels for this. I wouldn't want to be > restricted to just three choices. Runlevels 7 to 9 are available, as well. > I suppose that the 6 runlevels are traditional, and that more could be > added, but there are a lot o

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On Sun, 09 Dec 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote: > I think there aren't enough runlevels for this. I wouldn't want to be > restricted to just three choices. Runlevels 7 to 9 are available, as well. > I suppose that the 6 runlevels are traditional, and that more could be > added, but there are a lot

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

Hi. I'm using the guessnet package with my laptop. It can be configured with /etc/network/interfaces like this: auto lo eth0 iface lo inet loopback mapping eth0 script /usr/bin/guessnet map 10.3.67.3 00:50:04:BE:05:CD 10.3.64.42eth0-work map 192.168.1.1

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 07:35, David Roundy wrote: > > As far as ideas for improvement to whereami, I was just thinking that > perhaps a nice way to do some of its work would be to have it switch > runlevels. Since we already have the runlevel mechanism for creating > different configurations (esp

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 10:35:36AM -0800, David Roundy wrote: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 06:56:30PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > > Hi everybody! > > Hello everyone! You guys are way too cheerful. 'Scuse me while I puke. (No, seriously, I need a tool like this as well for my laptop, so full speed

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

Hi. I'm using the guessnet package with my laptop. It can be configured with /etc/network/interfaces like this: auto lo eth0 iface lo inet loopback mapping eth0 script /usr/bin/guessnet map 10.3.67.3 00:50:04:BE:05:CD 10.3.64.42eth0-work map 192.168.1.1

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On Sun, 2001-12-09 at 07:35, David Roundy wrote: > > As far as ideas for improvement to whereami, I was just thinking that > perhaps a nice way to do some of its work would be to have it switch > runlevels. Since we already have the runlevel mechanism for creating > different configurations (esp

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 10:35:36AM -0800, David Roundy wrote: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 06:56:30PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > > Hi everybody! > > Hello everyone! You guys are way too cheerful. 'Scuse me while I puke. (No, seriously, I need a tool like this as well for my laptop, so full speed

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 06:56:30PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > Hi everybody! Hello everyone! I've recently been thinking about this also, and have some thoughts I'd like to share on the subject. First though, I'd like to say that I've enjoyed reading peoples emails on the subject, and you guys ha

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

Hi everybody! Many great people provided great comments and ideas to my thought and the picture gets bigger. Another twist is added by the fact that it's holiday time here in Italy, and I have eaten and drunk things that no English words to my knowledge can describe :) You made me discover that

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 06:56:30PM +0100, Enrico Zini wrote: > Hi everybody! Hello everyone! I've recently been thinking about this also, and have some thoughts I'd like to share on the subject. First though, I'd like to say that I've enjoyed reading peoples emails on the subject, and you guys h

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

Hi everybody! Many great people provided great comments and ideas to my thought and the picture gets bigger. Another twist is added by the fact that it's holiday time here in Italy, and I have eaten and drunk things that no English words to my knowledge can describe :) You made me discover that

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

After three evenings I still get "network unreachable" and "eth0 - no such device" messages on my new Woody installaton (I admit not knowing much about these things) Trying Knoppix (based on Potato+Testing) it detects and configures my DL-650 PCMCIA card in no time automatically, and I can bro

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

After three evenings I still get "network unreachable" and "eth0 - no such device" messages on my new Woody installaton (I admit not knowing much about these things) Trying Knoppix (based on Potato+Testing) it detects and configures my DL-650 PCMCIA card in no time automatically, and I can br

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 04:41:20PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > * Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian > > There are a lot of packages for automatic network detection and > reconfiguration on debian: whereami, divine, intuitively, > laptop-netconf, lap

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On Fri, 2001-12-07 at 04:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > * Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian > > There are a lot of packages for automatic network detection and > reconfiguration on debian: whereami, divine, intuitively, > laptop-netconf, laptop-net, n

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 04:41:20PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > * Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian > > There are a lot of packages for automatic network detection and > reconfiguration on debian: whereami, divine, intuitively, > laptop-netconf, lap

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

On Fri, 2001-12-07 at 04:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > * Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian > > There are a lot of packages for automatic network detection and > reconfiguration on debian: whereami, divine, intuitively, > laptop-netconf, laptop-net, n

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

> * Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian > > There are a lot of packages for automatic network detection and > reconfiguration on debian: whereami, divine, intuitively, > laptop-netconf, laptop-net, netenv and maybe others. IMHO they all have > a proble

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

* | I'd like to cooperate with the authors and users of the involved | packages to address this problem and see what they think. If we share | the same concerns, maybe we should merge efforts and try to clean up the | mess. Sure, but note that some of those packages (like intuitively) is used o

Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

* Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian There are a lot of packages for automatic network detection and reconfiguration on debian: whereami, divine, intuitively, laptop-netconf, laptop-net, netenv and maybe others. IMHO they all have a problem: they do network detection AND

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

> * Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian > > There are a lot of packages for automatic network detection and > reconfiguration on debian: whereami, divine, intuitively, > laptop-netconf, laptop-net, netenv and maybe others. IMHO they all have > a proble

Re: Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

* | I'd like to cooperate with the authors and users of the involved | packages to address this problem and see what they think. If we share | the same concerns, maybe we should merge efforts and try to clean up the | mess. Sure, but note that some of those packages (like intuitively) is used

Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian

* Thoughts on network detection and configuration on Debian There are a lot of packages for automatic network detection and reconfiguration on debian: whereami, divine, intuitively, laptop-netconf, laptop-net, netenv and maybe others. IMHO they all have a problem: they do network detection AND