Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Broughton
Koen Vermeer wrote: > On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 11:23 -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Not on my system... if I "ifconfig eth0 down", it goes down and stays >> down. ifplugd will start the system beeping at me as it gains and loses >> link >> beat, but once the b44 stabilizes, it never runs dhclient

Re: [debian] Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Broughton
Robert Goley wrote: > Don't know if this has been mentioned since I can't find all the thread, > why not compile the bcm4400 module using module-assistant and use it > instead of the opensource b44 module since it is causing problems? I > have used it several times on different machines. I prefe

Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-13 Thread Koen Vermeer
On Thu, 2005-10-13 at 11:23 -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: > Not on my system... if I "ifconfig eth0 down", it goes down and stays down. > ifplugd will start the system beeping at me as it gains and loses link > beat, but once the b44 stabilizes, it never runs dhclient again. I can't > tell if it

Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-13 Thread Derek Broughton
Koen Vermeer wrote: > On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 19:26 -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Ah - what you mean is that with ifplugd running, if you do "ifconfig eth0 >> down", _ifplugd_ still thinks the interface is up. After "ifconfig eth0 >> down", the interface is definitely _down_. > > No, if ifplugd

Re: [debian] Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-13 Thread Robert Goley
Don't know if this has been mentioned since I can't find all the thread, why not compile the bcm4400 module using module-assistant and use it instead of the opensource b44 module since it is causing problems?  I have used it several times on different machines.  I prefer opensource drivers but

Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-13 Thread Koen Vermeer
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 19:26 -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: > Ah - what you mean is that with ifplugd running, if you do "ifconfig eth0 > down", _ifplugd_ still thinks the interface is up. After "ifconfig eth0 > down", the interface is definitely _down_. No, if ifplugd is running and you run a 'ifc

Re: [debian] Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-12 Thread Derek Broughton
Tony Godshall wrote: > > So, anyhow, the moral of the story is this: > > Don't be too quick to blame software. I'm not quite sure where that moral was to be found :-) After all, we've already agreed that there's a basic problem with the b44 - whether it's the driver software or the hardware is

Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-12 Thread Derek Broughton
Koen Vermeer wrote: > On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 13:03 -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: >> > Just some additional comments: In my case, with ifplugd running, I >> > cannot even get eth0 down. That is, if I remove the cable, do 'ifconfig >> > eth0 down', eth0 is still UP. Only after stopping ifplugd, I can

Re: [debian] Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-12 Thread Tony Godshall
> ... (Incidentally, I've also had > ifplugd completely freeze my laptop for somewhere around 10 minutes if I > make the mistake of removing the ethernet cable immediately _before_ > shutting down the computer) Hi. I also use a Dell with a b44 chip (mine's an Insprion 8600). After a couple

Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-12 Thread Koen Vermeer
On Wed, 2005-10-12 at 13:03 -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: > > Just some additional comments: In my case, with ifplugd running, I > > cannot even get eth0 down. That is, if I remove the cable, do 'ifconfig > > eth0 down', eth0 is still UP. Only after stopping ifplugd, I can take > > eth0 down. > Tha

Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-12 Thread Derek Broughton
Koen Vermeer wrote: > Hi Derek, > > Just some additional comments: In my case, with ifplugd running, I > cannot even get eth0 down. That is, if I remove the cable, do 'ifconfig > eth0 down', eth0 is still UP. Only after stopping ifplugd, I can take > eth0 down. That seems a little weak. The def

Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-12 Thread Koen Vermeer
Hi Derek, Just some additional comments: In my case, with ifplugd running, I cannot even get eth0 down. That is, if I remove the cable, do 'ifconfig eth0 down', eth0 is still UP. Only after stopping ifplugd, I can take eth0 down. Additionally, I restart ifplugd on resume, because otherwise the ne

Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-12 Thread Derek Broughton
Koen Vermeer wrote: > On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 16:15 -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: >> Any ideas? (Please don't suggest some other network detection scheme - >> the problem is not whereami, it's the fact that the interface needs time >> to settle down before it can be tested, and that's going to be t

Re: whereami, hibernate & ifconfig

2005-10-12 Thread Koen Vermeer
On Tue, 2005-10-11 at 16:15 -0300, Derek Broughton wrote: > Any ideas? (Please don't suggest some other network detection scheme - the > problem is not whereami, it's the fact that the interface needs time to > settle down before it can be tested, and that's going to be the same no > matter what d