Re: Battery monitor tools?

2010-04-20 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Simon Chen wrote: > I may be a light debian user. 'Cause i simply use GNOME power manager as > battery tool, supposed to be the default power manager in GNOME. I think > it is kind of dull. I've found battery using up much more quickly under > debian than it under windows(yes, i'm using a dual-boot

Re: Battery monitor tools?

2010-04-20 Thread Dirk Linnerkamp
Am Dienstag, den 20.04.2010, 12:33 +0200 schrieb Jonas Andradas: Hi Jonas et al, > > In my humble opinion, this statement holds true if you keep the > "original" Windows that came with your laptop. ...i'm not using my originally Windows Software which was preinstalled on my laptop. I bought it

Re: Battery monitor tools?

2010-04-20 Thread Jonas Andradas
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 12:20, Dirk Linnerkamp wrote: > Hi Simon, > > Am Dienstag, den 20.04.2010, 00:40 +0200 schrieb Simon Chen: > > > So, is this just because i choosed a unsuitable tool? Or it has any > > other reason. In the comparison mentioned above, I was doing some file > > work and/or ru

Re: Battery monitor tools?

2010-04-20 Thread Dirk Linnerkamp
Hi Simon, Am Dienstag, den 20.04.2010, 00:40 +0200 schrieb Simon Chen: > So, is this just because i choosed a unsuitable tool? Or it has any > other reason. In the comparison mentioned above, I was doing some file > work and/or running emacs ...i'm using laptop-mode-tools as an additionally tool

Re: Battery monitor tools?

2010-04-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Joe Emenaker wrote: > Yeah, I saw IBAM, but it looked like it just generated plain ol' .png > files or something. I was hoping for something a little more snazzy. Have you looked at the gkrellm-ibam? It is still rather plain and I wouldn't argue about wanting more. But it is at least something

Re: Battery monitor tools?

2010-04-19 Thread Aioanei Rares
On 04/20/2010 01:40 AM, Simon Chen wrote: I may be a light debian user. 'Cause i simply use GNOME power manager as battery tool, supposed to be the default power manager in GNOME. I think it is kind of dull. I've found battery using up much more quickly under debian than it under windows(yes, i

Re: Battery monitor tools?

2010-04-19 Thread Simon Chen
I may be a light debian user. 'Cause i simply use GNOME power manager as battery tool, supposed to be the default power manager in GNOME. I think it is kind of dull. I've found battery using up much more quickly under debian than it under windows(yes, i'm using a dual-booting laptop). So, is this

Re: Battery monitor tools?

2010-04-19 Thread Joe Emenaker
On 4/19/2010 2:29 PM, Bob Proulx wrote: Joe Emenaker wrote: I'm looking for a good battery charge/discharge profiler tool for my Ubuntu laptop. Of course I am sure that you know you are posting about Ubuntu to the Debian laptop mailing list? The least you could do is to lie to us and

Re: Battery monitor tools?

2010-04-19 Thread Bob Proulx
Joe Emenaker wrote: > I'm looking for a good battery charge/discharge profiler tool for my > Ubuntu laptop. Of course I am sure that you know you are posting about Ubuntu to the Debian laptop mailing list? The least you could do is to lie to us and say you are running Debian when posting to a D

Re: battery performance lower then..

2009-01-05 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Bogdan wrote: > Hi, > > no extra tools/daemons needed to scale CPU frequency - see > http://technowizah.com/2007/01/debian-how-to-cpu-frequency-management.html ; > worked for me on all computers I tried. > > you might also want to tweak HDD energy saving parameter (using hdparm) ; > exact opti

Re: battery performance lower then..

2008-12-26 Thread J.Keßler
thx I gonna try this. ! Bogdan wrote: > Hi, > > no extra tools/daemons needed to scale CPU frequency - see > http://technowizah.com/2007/01/debian-how-to-cpu-frequency-management.html ; > worked for me on all computers I tried. > > you might also want to tweak HDD energy saving parameter (usin

Re: battery performance lower then..

2008-12-26 Thread J.Keßler
thank you was missing this package. Paolo wrote: > On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 10:56:59PM +0100, "J.Ke?ler" wrote: >> So my question is, what can I do to improve the working time and what >> can I check if something is not working as it should. >> eg. if there is some "special-debian-power" package or

Re: battery performance lower then..

2008-12-26 Thread Bogdan
Hi, no extra tools/daemons needed to scale CPU frequency - see http://technowizah.com/2007/01/debian-how-to-cpu-frequency-management.html ; worked for me on all computers I tried. you might also want to tweak HDD energy saving parameter (using hdparm) ; exact options depend on what capabilitie

Re: battery performance lower then..

2008-12-26 Thread Михаил Демин
>eg. if there is some "special-debian-power" package Did you install something like cpufreqd/cpufreqytils? If no try to do so and set "powersave" governor. Mikhail. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-laptop-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@l

Re: battery performance lower then..

2008-12-26 Thread Paolo
On Thu, Dec 25, 2008 at 10:56:59PM +0100, "J.Ke?ler" wrote: > > So my question is, what can I do to improve the working time and what > can I check if something is not working as it should. > eg. if there is some "special-debian-power" package or some general > power saving settings which I'm not

Re: battery status not show in fvwm-crystal in lenny

2008-08-05 Thread sizo nsibande
What about the physical status of the battery as it has five bars on it, when you press this it should tell you how much if any power is left on the battery. Maybe your battery has gone to a better place, and in which case you should call dell and if it is within a year they will replace your batte

Re: battery status not show in fvwm-crystal in lenny

2008-08-01 Thread Jerry Wang
Fixed by enable CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER and recompile the kernel, thanks a lot Jerry Wang wrote: > I reinstalled debian lenny on my dell vostro 1400-n recently and I > didn't select "laptop" base system initially, after I configured X and > installed fvwm-crystal, I found I can see cpu temporatur

Re: Battery charging problem with connected ethernet

2007-10-08 Thread Stuart Prescott
Hi Celejar, > > * laptop power supplies are pretty ugly in the electronic sense. They > > produce amazing amounts of electrical noise in the 50-100kHz range that > > ends up coming out in all sorts of places where it shouldn't. Non-genuine > > power supplies are worse than genuine power supplies

Re: Battery charging problem with connected ethernet

2007-10-07 Thread Celejar
On Thu, 4 Oct 2007 11:06:38 +0100 Stuart Prescott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > I never did discover exactly what was going on here, but here are some things > that might help you that I did find in the course of investigating this > problem and a number of other laptop power supply-relat

Re: Battery charging problem with connected ethernet

2007-10-04 Thread Stuart Prescott
Hi all, > In case that i have been connected to my intranet over ethernet the > operation mode changes from AC mode to battery mode. It is not possible to > work in AC mode with a ethernet connection. This sounds suspiciously like a problem I had some time ago: http://lists.debian.org/debian

Re: Battery charging problem with connected ethernet

2007-10-03 Thread Florian Reitmeir
Hi, On Wed, 03 Oct 2007, Frank Geschner wrote: > i have a problem with my new R61 lenovo laptop. It is not only a linux > problem but maybe anybody can help me. So the problem is also reproduceable under MS Windows? Did you contact customer support? > In case that i have been connected to my in

Re: Battery

2007-09-15 Thread Frank Zimmermann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Zimmermann schrieb: > Paolo schrieb: >> On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 01:55:05PM +0200, Frank Zimmermann wrote: > > >> hm, if that's a recent kernel you might want file a bugrep on kernel.org. > > > It's a big in kernels >2.6.20 but unfortunately I

Re: Battery

2007-09-14 Thread Frank Zimmermann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paolo schrieb: > On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 01:55:05PM +0200, Frank Zimmermann wrote: > do you see the /proc/acpi/ac_adapter stuff? ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter AC ls /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/AC/ state cat /proc/acpi/ac_adapter/AC/state state:

Re: Battery

2007-09-14 Thread Paolo
On Fri, Sep 14, 2007 at 01:55:05PM +0200, Frank Zimmermann wrote: > > ok. Well this is the output of dmesg | grep ACPI: > http://nopaste.info/eec471c041.html > I can find only one battery reference here and this is to the obviously > missing battery slot 1, which is correct but nothing reg. BAT0.

Re: Battery

2007-09-14 Thread Frank Zimmermann
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Paolo schrieb: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 06:35:16PM +0200, Frank Zimmermann wrote: >> inspired by the powermanagement thread I realized that there is no entry >> for my battery in /proc/acpi/battery > ... >> How can I fix this? > > check early dmesg l

Re: Battery

2007-09-13 Thread Paolo
On Thu, Sep 13, 2007 at 06:35:16PM +0200, Frank Zimmermann wrote: > inspired by the powermanagement thread I realized that there is no entry > for my battery in /proc/acpi/battery ... > How can I fix this? check early dmesg lines; check dmesg lines relevant to acpi modules loading; check kernel do

Re: Battery granularity problem

2005-12-22 Thread Detlev Casanova
> I always (try to) fully charge the battery, and I could use 25% extra > battery time... But I'm a bit confused as to how this all works, because > the battery monitors all do show 100% fully charged (also in Windows). It compares the last full capacity and the remaining capacity (shown by 'cat

Re: Battery granularity problem

2005-12-22 Thread Koen Vermeer
On Thu, 2005-12-22 at 00:04 +0100, Detlev Casanova wrote: > The granularity means how precise are the informations shown by the ACPI, I > think ;-) Ah, that makes sense and in that case, the numbers are rather large indeed. I have no idea how to fix that, though. > The last full capacity can be

Re: Battery granularity problem

2005-12-21 Thread Detlev Casanova
Hi. > I don't know what the granularity means, or if it's actually used for > anything. I'm more concerned about 'last full capacity', which is about > 20% smaller than the design capacity, but maybe that's normal as well. The granularity means how precise are the informations shown by the ACPI,

Re: Battery granularity problem

2005-12-21 Thread Koen Vermeer
On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 14:44 +0100, Detlev Casanova wrote: > Is it normal that I have BAT1 instead of BAT0 ? On my Acer (TravelMate 6003 LMi) I also only have BAT1 and BAT2 - no BAT0. My output: $cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT1/info present: yes design capacity: 4400 mAh last f

Re: Battery life

2005-03-21 Thread Michael Z Daryabeygi
Yves Rutschle wrote: It seems to me the biggest problem is that each battery technology requires different care, that few people are aware of that, let alone of what type of batteries they have, and you end up with endless mis-informed postings based on old technologies. indeed. I highly recommend:

Re: Battery life

2005-03-21 Thread Yves Rutschle
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 05:15:30PM +, Jan T. Kim wrote: > Overall, it seems to me that battery technology is surrounded by many > suboptimalities and that only a fundamentally new approach (hydrogen > fuel cells?) will really fix the problem. It seems to me the biggest problem is that each bat

Re: Battery life

2005-03-21 Thread Derek Broughton
On Monday 21 March 2005 13:15, Jan T. Kim wrote: > On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 10:39:19AM -0500, Steven wrote: > > Huh! And I was advised the opposite recently by a fellow tech. > > He claimed leaving the battery in and constantly charged would result in > > longer battery life span. > > If I recall co

Re: Battery life

2005-03-21 Thread Jan T. Kim
On Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 10:39:19AM -0500, Steven wrote: > Huh! And I was advised the opposite recently by a fellow tech. > He claimed leaving the battery in and constantly charged would result in > longer battery life span. If I recall correctly, the question is to which extend the battery is kep

Re: Battery life

2005-03-21 Thread Steven
Huh! And I was advised the opposite recently by a fellow tech. He claimed leaving the battery in and constantly charged would result in longer battery life span. I need a new one for my T23 and I just found batteryrefill.com where you can exchange your old battery or simply purchase a rebuilt one

Re: battery

2004-02-14 Thread Juergen Stuber
Alessandro Speranza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm > > Apparently, to make a lithium ions battery live longer, one should > actually not discharge it all all the time, and do that only once in about > 30 cycles to cancel memory effects. Also, they

Re: battery

2004-02-14 Thread Juergen Stuber
Alessandro Speranza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm > > Apparently, to make a lithium ions battery live longer, one should > actually not discharge it all all the time, and do that only once in about > 30 cycles to cancel memory effects. Also, they

Re: battery

2004-02-14 Thread debian
Alessandro Speranza wrote: All right then. Thanks a lot for your helps. I followed one of the suggestions, to google for a how to or something. Google, with some little work, actually did its job, and got me this: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm Apparently, to make a lithium

Re: battery

2004-02-14 Thread debian
Alessandro Speranza wrote: All right then. Thanks a lot for your helps. I followed one of the suggestions, to google for a how to or something. Google, with some little work, actually did its job, and got me this: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm Apparently, to make a lithium ion

Re: battery

2004-02-13 Thread xsdg
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:30:03 +0100 (CET) Alessandro Speranza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys. ::snip? SNIP!:: > Second question, laptop specific. > This morning I went battery shopping for my laptop (compaq presario 700). > It cost me 145 euro+vat, and I had to buy, because the other one was

Re: battery

2004-02-13 Thread xsdg
On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 11:30:03 +0100 (CET) Alessandro Speranza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi guys. ::snip? SNIP!:: > Second question, laptop specific. > This morning I went battery shopping for my laptop (compaq presario 700). > It cost me 145 euro+vat, and I had to buy, because the other one was

Re: Battery life w/o X

2003-11-15 Thread David Z Maze
Ralph Bacolod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi! Does a laptop battery last longer without X or is it insignificant? I'd guess that it's mostly insignificant. There's some cost to actually running the X server, but I don't think it's any easier on things like the graphics chip. I know there's al

Re: Battery life w/o X

2003-11-15 Thread David Z Maze
Ralph Bacolod <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi! Does a laptop battery last longer without X or is it insignificant? I'd guess that it's mostly insignificant. There's some cost to actually running the X server, but I don't think it's any easier on things like the graphics chip. I know there's al

Re: battery fsck

2003-06-14 Thread Nyk Tarr
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:54:09PM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote: > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:09:34PM +0200, Gavriel FLEISCHER wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 08:48:32AM +0100, Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > battery? or can i pass a kernel parameter to prevent fsck? > > > >

Re: battery fsck

2003-06-14 Thread Nyk Tarr
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:54:09PM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote: > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:09:34PM +0200, Gavriel FLEISCHER wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 08:48:32AM +0100, Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > battery? or can i pass a kernel parameter to prevent fsck? > > > > if

Re: battery fsck

2003-06-14 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:09:34PM +0200, Gavriel FLEISCHER wrote: > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 08:48:32AM +0100, Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > battery? or can i pass a kernel parameter to prevent fsck? > > if test -x /usr/bin/on_ac_power > then > #do the stuff > fi > > on_

Re: battery fsck

2003-06-14 Thread Gavriel FLEISCHER
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 08:48:32AM +0100, Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > battery? or can i pass a kernel parameter to prevent fsck? if test -x /usr/bin/on_ac_power then #do the stuff fi on_ac_power is in powermgmt-base.deb > [using ext3] Well I have the last column of /etc/

Re: battery fsck

2003-06-14 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 04:09:34PM +0200, Gavriel FLEISCHER wrote: > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 08:48:32AM +0100, Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > battery? or can i pass a kernel parameter to prevent fsck? > > if test -x /usr/bin/on_ac_power > then > #do the stuff > fi > > on_ac_

Re: battery fsck

2003-06-14 Thread Gavriel FLEISCHER
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 08:48:32AM +0100, Hugh Saunders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > battery? or can i pass a kernel parameter to prevent fsck? if test -x /usr/bin/on_ac_power then #do the stuff fi on_ac_power is in powermgmt-base.deb > [using ext3] Well I have the last column of /etc/f

Re: battery fsck

2003-06-14 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 11:22:50AM +0200, Joerg Rieger wrote: > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 08:48:32AM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote: > > hello, this maybe a bit of a long shot, but.. It really annoys me when i > > boot up with not much battery left and it decides its done 33 mounts or > > whatever so is

Re: battery fsck

2003-06-14 Thread Joerg Rieger
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 08:48:32AM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote: > hello, this maybe a bit of a long shot, but.. It really annoys me when i > boot up with not much battery left and it decides its done 33 mounts or > whatever so is gonna fsck. Is there a way of specifying no fsck when on > battery? or

Re: battery fsck

2003-06-14 Thread Hugh Saunders
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 11:22:50AM +0200, Joerg Rieger wrote: > On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 08:48:32AM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote: > > hello, this maybe a bit of a long shot, but.. It really annoys me when i > > boot up with not much battery left and it decides its done 33 mounts or > > whatever so is

Re: battery fsck

2003-06-14 Thread Joerg Rieger
On Sat, Jun 14, 2003 at 08:48:32AM +0100, Hugh Saunders wrote: > hello, this maybe a bit of a long shot, but.. It really annoys me when i > boot up with not much battery left and it decides its done 33 mounts or > whatever so is gonna fsck. Is there a way of specifying no fsck when on > battery? or

Re: battery-stats package uploaded to unstable

2003-03-20 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:20:35PM +, xsdg wrote: > hrm... what's the difference between this [battery-stats] package and > ibam? I've been running ibam every minute (:o) through a cronjob for > the past few months. I admittedly have looked at the website for > neither battery-stats nor ibam,

Re: battery-stats package uploaded to unstable

2003-03-20 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
On Thu, Mar 20, 2003 at 11:20:35PM +, xsdg wrote: > hrm... what's the difference between this [battery-stats] package and > ibam? I've been running ibam every minute (:o) through a cronjob for > the past few months. I admittedly have looked at the website for > neither battery-stats nor ibam,

Re: battery-stats package uploaded to unstable

2003-03-20 Thread xsdg
hrm... what's the difference between this package and ibam? I've been running ibam every minute (:o) through a cronjob for the past few months. I admittedly have looked at the website for neither battery-stats nor ibam, but from what I can tell, both gather statistics about the batter{y,ies}, and

Re: battery-stats package uploaded to unstable

2003-03-20 Thread xsdg
hrm... what's the difference between this package and ibam? I've been running ibam every minute (:o) through a cronjob for the past few months. I admittedly have looked at the website for neither battery-stats nor ibam, but from what I can tell, both gather statistics about the batter{y,ies}, and

Re: Battery powerfail / APM text-console and xterm logger

2003-02-25 Thread mi
Hello, Karl, and many thanks you've spent some time about my beginners stuff ! Allow me to answer on the list, because i enjoy any feedback. > - Most X-based battery monitors already have functionality to warn the > user of low battery. E.g. Gnome battery applet, Enlightenment > battery epp

Re: Battery powerfail / APM text-console and xterm logger

2003-02-25 Thread mi
Hello, Karl, and many thanks you've spent some time about my beginners stuff ! Allow me to answer on the list, because i enjoy any feedback. > - Most X-based battery monitors already have functionality to warn the > user of low battery. E.g. Gnome battery applet, Enlightenment > battery epp

Re: Battery Life

2003-02-17 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
[Jumping into the thread a bit late...] On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:25:07AM -0500, David Z Maze wrote: > Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You may find that it goes from 40% to 1% in a matter of minutes as my > > Thinkpads do when their battery's are over a year old. > > I've noticed

Re: Battery Life

2003-02-17 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
[Jumping into the thread a bit late...] On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:25:07AM -0500, David Z Maze wrote: > Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > You may find that it goes from 40% to 1% in a matter of minutes as my > > Thinkpads do when their battery's are over a year old. > > I've noticed

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-15 Thread mi
I removed and inserted the battery several times on-line with no obvious harm. Dell Inspiron 5000. micha. Ross Burton: > Would it be safe to remove the battery whilst on? I don't fancy having

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-15 Thread mi
I removed and inserted the battery several times on-line with no obvious harm. Dell Inspiron 5000. micha. Ross Burton: > Would it be safe to remove the battery whilst on? I don't fancy having

Re: Battery Life

2003-02-14 Thread David Z Maze
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You may find that it goes from 40% to 1% in a matter of minutes as my > Thinkpads do when their battery's are over a year old. I've noticed my aging laptop (an 18-month-old Dell Latitude C600) doing something similar: on battery, the reported charge dro

Re: Battery Life

2003-02-14 Thread David Z Maze
Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > You may find that it goes from 40% to 1% in a matter of minutes as my > Thinkpads do when their battery's are over a year old. I've noticed my aging laptop (an 18-month-old Dell Latitude C600) doing something similar: on battery, the reported charge dro

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:13, Ross Burton wrote: > Doh, IBM ThinkPad X22. > > Would it be safe to remove the battery whilst on? I don't fancy having > to shutdown/startup twice a day! I've tried that on several models of Thinkpad and friends have tried it on several other models. All the test resul

Re: Battery Life

2003-02-14 Thread Werner Heuser
> To get accurate battery estimates you need to monitor the life of the battery > as it fully discharges. I think that the software on some handheld devices > does this, but APM on Linux doesn't. Consider battery-stats, he package collects statistics about the (lack of) charge on laptop batteri

Re: Battery Life

2003-02-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:50, Tim Wood wrote: > I have a 4 year old Gateway 5150. It runs on the mains most of the time. > I leave the battery in all the time. > > Yesterday, as a check against what has been said on this list, I ran it > for 50 min. It went from 100% down to 50%. You may find that it

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-14 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 18:03, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > Short answer: Yes. > > Long answer: It does if the battery keeps charging, which it might or > might not. Modern batteries often contain smart circuitry that governs > how they charge. This generally helps lengthen the battery life (unless > you

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:13, Ross Burton wrote: > Doh, IBM ThinkPad X22. > > Would it be safe to remove the battery whilst on? I don't fancy having > to shutdown/startup twice a day! I've tried that on several models of Thinkpad and friends have tried it on several other models. All the test resul

Re: Battery Life

2003-02-14 Thread Werner Heuser
> To get accurate battery estimates you need to monitor the life of the battery > as it fully discharges. I think that the software on some handheld devices > does this, but APM on Linux doesn't. Consider battery-stats, he package collects statistics about the (lack of) charge on laptop batteri

Re: Battery Life

2003-02-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:50, Tim Wood wrote: > I have a 4 year old Gateway 5150. It runs on the mains most of the time. > I leave the battery in all the time. > > Yesterday, as a check against what has been said on this list, I ran it > for 50 min. It went from 100% down to 50%. You may find that it

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery fulldrains, *read this*

2003-02-14 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 18:03, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > Short answer: Yes. > > Long answer: It does if the battery keeps charging, which it might or > might not. Modern batteries often contain smart circuitry that governs > how they charge. This generally helps lengthen the battery life (unless > you

RE: Battery Life

2003-02-13 Thread Mike Dresser
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Tim Wood wrote: > Hi everyone, > just to stick my ten cents worth in. > > I have a 4 year old Gateway 5150. It runs on the mains most of the time. > I leave the battery in all the time. I have a 6 year old Omnibook 5500(p133) and about a 4 year old 5700(p166). Currently it's

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-13 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 12:57, David Emerson wrote: > I'm no expert here, but from what I can tell by reading the last week's posts, > > FULL DRAINS ARE BAD FOR LI-ION Right. > I'd say that's your main problem, and since you're now draining it to 4%, > it sounds like your battery might start degra

RE: Battery Life

2003-02-13 Thread Mike Dresser
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003, Tim Wood wrote: > Hi everyone, > just to stick my ten cents worth in. > > I have a 4 year old Gateway 5150. It runs on the mains most of the time. > I leave the battery in all the time. I have a 6 year old Omnibook 5500(p133) and about a 4 year old 5700(p166). Currently it's

RE: Battery Life

2003-02-13 Thread Tim Wood
Hi everyone, just to stick my ten cents worth in. I have a 4 year old Gateway 5150. It runs on the mains most of the time. I leave the battery in all the time. Yesterday, as a check against what has been said on this list, I ran it for 50 min. It went from 100% down to 50%. I was using a PC car

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-13 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 12:57, David Emerson wrote: > I'm no expert here, but from what I can tell by reading the last week's posts, > > FULL DRAINS ARE BAD FOR LI-ION Right. > I'd say that's your main problem, and since you're now draining it to 4%, > it sounds like your battery might start degra

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:55, yoda2 wrote: > Regarding the removal off the battery when on AC, i was wondering if > that's a good thing to do. I was told the battery "filters" the spikes > from the powernet so the electronics of you laptop get a stable spike > free current > > So the "filter" stor

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread yoda2
Regarding the removal off the battery when on AC, i was wondering if that's a good thing to do. I was told the battery "filters" the spikes from the powernet so the electronics of you laptop get a stable spike free current So the "filter" story is nonsense? kind regards, Asim [EMAIL PR

RE: Battery Life

2003-02-13 Thread Tim Wood
Hi everyone, just to stick my ten cents worth in. I have a 4 year old Gateway 5150. It runs on the mains most of the time. I leave the battery in all the time. Yesterday, as a check against what has been said on this list, I ran it for 50 min. It went from 100% down to 50%. I was using a PC card

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread jpcl
> At the very least, I find taking the battery out helps the laptop run > cooler. :) You surely mean that in a general sense, right? You're not talking about cpu/system temperature as measured by termal sensors, are you? I surely would like to only remove my battery and get a laptop that stops ru

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:55, yoda2 wrote: > Regarding the removal off the battery when on AC, i was wondering if > that's a good thing to do. I was told the battery "filters" the spikes > from the powernet so the electronics of you laptop get a stable spike > free current > > So the "filter" stor

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains,*read this*

2003-02-13 Thread yoda2
Regarding the removal off the battery when on AC, i was wondering if that's a good thing to do. I was told the battery "filters" the spikes from the powernet so the electronics of you laptop get a stable spike free current So the "filter" story is nonsense? kind regards, Asim [EMAIL PRO

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread jpcl
> At the very least, I find taking the battery out helps the laptop run > cooler. :) You surely mean that in a general sense, right? You're not talking about cpu/system temperature as measured by termal sensors, are you? I surely would like to only remove my battery and get a laptop that stops ru

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-13 Thread David Emerson
I'm no expert here, but from what I can tell by reading the last week's posts, FULL DRAINS ARE BAD FOR LI-ION I'd say that's your main problem, and since you're now draining it to 4%, it sounds like your battery might start degrading more rapidly. (I have no idea about the truth of that latter

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 04:43, Ross Burton wrote: > On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 07:15, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. > > My LiIon battery gets heavy use. Twice a day (on the way to work, and > back again) I use it for 1.5 hours, typically compiling cod

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-13 Thread David Emerson
I'm no expert here, but from what I can tell by reading the last week's posts, FULL DRAINS ARE BAD FOR LI-ION I'd say that's your main problem, and since you're now draining it to 4%, it sounds like your battery might start degrading more rapidly. (I have no idea about the truth of that latter

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery fulldrains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 04:43, Ross Burton wrote: > On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 07:15, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. > > My LiIon battery gets heavy use. Twice a day (on the way to work, and > back again) I use it for 1.5 hours, typically compiling cod

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 07:15, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. My LiIon battery gets heavy use. Twice a day (on the way to work, and back again) I use it for 1.5 hours, typically compiling code. I used to go from 100% to 25%, but now I just make it t

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Andrew McMillan
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 20:05, mi wrote: > Hello Joe. > > Thanks for your enduring efforts ! > > > - Store it at 40% charge. Not 100%. > > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. > > - Don't store it anywhere particularly hot or cold or wet. > > Does this mean it'd be best to

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery fulldrains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 07:15, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. My LiIon battery gets heavy use. Twice a day (on the way to work, and back again) I use it for 1.5 hours, typically compiling code. I used to go from 100% to 25%, but now I just make it t

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread mi
Hello Joe. Thanks for your enduring efforts ! > - Store it at 40% charge. Not 100%. > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. > - Don't store it anywhere particularly hot or cold or wet. Does this mean it'd be best to stop working at 40 % ? Never use up the battery's capabil

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery fulldrains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Andrew McMillan
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 20:05, mi wrote: > Hello Joe. > > Thanks for your enduring efforts ! > > > - Store it at 40% charge. Not 100%. > > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. > > - Don't store it anywhere particularly hot or cold or wet. > > Does this mean it'd be best to

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 21:59, CaT wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:32:12PM -0800, suresh kumar sharma wrote: > > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . > > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > > I have tried it in Windows als

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread mi
Hello Joe. Thanks for your enduring efforts ! > - Store it at 40% charge. Not 100%. > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. > - Don't store it anywhere particularly hot or cold or wet. Does this mean it'd be best to stop working at 40 % ? Never use up the battery's capabil

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery fulldrains, *read this*

2003-02-12 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 21:59, CaT wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:32:12PM -0800, suresh kumar sharma wrote: > > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . > > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > > I have tried it in Windows als

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-12 Thread KryptoBSD
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:59:40 +1100 CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:32:12PM -0800, suresh kumar sharma wrote: > > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . > > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > > I h

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-12 Thread kheb
suresh kumar sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . Me too > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > I have tried it in Windows also same problem . > does anybody know how I can get some

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-12 Thread CaT
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:32:12PM -0800, suresh kumar sharma wrote: > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > I have tried it in Windows also same problem . > does anybody know how I can get

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