Re: Stolen laptop

2003-07-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello all, Am 09:16 2003-06-24 +0100 hat Chris Higgins geschrieben: >It's a Linux box - It's probably running X windows by default, > and hopefully [xgk]dm isn't doing an auto-login... So >on the login panel have a "username: fred password: 34sjdsfy8" message >displayed. > >When this user logs

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-07-02 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello all, Am 09:16 2003-06-24 +0100 hat Chris Higgins geschrieben: >It's a Linux box - It's probably running X windows by default, > and hopefully [xgk]dm isn't doing an auto-login... So >on the login panel have a "username: fred password: 34sjdsfy8" message >displayed. > >When this user logs

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-24 Thread Chris Higgins
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:15:57 -0400 Joseph Barillari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > SM> Good point, yes. Any suggestions on how to improve it? > > As for PPP connections, given that it takes a non-trivial amount of > time to bring one

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-24 Thread Chris Higgins
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 19:15:57 -0400 Joseph Barillari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > SM> Good point, yes. Any suggestions on how to improve it? > > As for PPP connections, given that it takes a non-trivial amount of > time to bring one

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-23 Thread Larry Colen
If you've got these features implemented, it wouldn't take much to turn it into something "general purpose" that: Woke up sniffed/characterized the network Checked against a table to see if it was a known network. If it's not a known network, it would send a message to a server saying: This is wh

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-23 Thread Joseph Barillari
> "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SM> On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 08:22:43PM -0400, Joseph Barillari SM> wrote: >> >>> "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> SM> I've been using the following for a while, which does just SM> what yo

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-23 Thread Larry Colen
If you've got these features implemented, it wouldn't take much to turn it into something "general purpose" that: Woke up sniffed/characterized the network Checked against a table to see if it was a known network. If it's not a known network, it would send a message to a server saying: This is wh

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-23 Thread Joseph Barillari
> "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SM> On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 08:22:43PM -0400, Joseph Barillari SM> wrote: >> >>> "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> SM> I've been using the following for a while, which does just SM> what yo

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 08:22:43PM -0400, Joseph Barillari wrote: > >> "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >SM> I've been using the following for a while, which does just >SM> what you suggested. Run it out of /etc/ppp/ip-up.d and >SM> /etc/cron.daily and redirect t

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-23 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 08:22:43PM -0400, Joseph Barillari wrote: > >> "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >SM> I've been using the following for a while, which does just >SM> what you suggested. Run it out of /etc/ppp/ip-up.d and >SM> /etc/cron.daily and redirect t

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-22 Thread Joseph Barillari
> "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SM> I've been using the following for a while, which does just SM> what you suggested. Run it out of /etc/ppp/ip-up.d and SM> /etc/cron.daily and redirect the output to mail. This approach SM> does need mail to work, which is

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 06:45:31PM -0400, Joseph Barillari wrote: > >I could envision a program that sends information about its local >network to a predetermined location every time it connects to the >network. A more elaborate solution might involve hacking a DHCP client >(and a network stack) in

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-22 Thread Joseph Barillari
> "WH" == Werner Heuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> My house was burglarized the other day. One of the things they >> got was my old Gateway Liberty Laptop. It's a 486-100, running WH> You may check some links to databases for stolen laptops WH> http://tuxmobil.org/stolen_l

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-22 Thread Joseph Barillari
> "SM" == Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: SM> I've been using the following for a while, which does just SM> what you suggested. Run it out of /etc/ppp/ip-up.d and SM> /etc/cron.daily and redirect the output to mail. This approach SM> does need mail to work, which is

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-22 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Jun 22, 2003 at 06:45:31PM -0400, Joseph Barillari wrote: > >I could envision a program that sends information about its local >network to a predetermined location every time it connects to the >network. A more elaborate solution might involve hacking a DHCP client >(and a network stack) in

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-22 Thread Werner Heuser
> My house was burglarized the other day. One of the things they got was > my old Gateway Liberty Laptop. It's a 486-100, running You may check some links to databases for stolen laptops http://tuxmobil.org/stolen_laptops.html Werner -- |=| Werner Heuser = Keplerstr. 11A = D-10589 Berl

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-22 Thread Thomas Holmquist
One piece of advice, Watch Ebay like a hawk! Larry Colen wrote: My house was burglarized the other day. One of the things they got was my old Gateway Liberty Laptop. It's a 486-100, running debian. Computer name is "short". (my personal laptop was unsigned, which went well with .int. subnet at

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-22 Thread Joseph Barillari
> "WH" == Werner Heuser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> My house was burglarized the other day. One of the things they >> got was my old Gateway Liberty Laptop. It's a 486-100, running WH> You may check some links to databases for stolen laptops WH> http://tuxmobil.org/stolen_l

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-22 Thread Werner Heuser
> My house was burglarized the other day. One of the things they got was > my old Gateway Liberty Laptop. It's a 486-100, running You may check some links to databases for stolen laptops http://tuxmobil.org/stolen_laptops.html Werner -- |=| Werner Heuser = Keplerstr. 11A = D-10589 Berl

Re: Stolen laptop

2003-06-22 Thread Thomas Holmquist
One piece of advice, Watch Ebay like a hawk! Larry Colen wrote: My house was burglarized the other day. One of the things they got was my old Gateway Liberty Laptop. It's a 486-100, running debian. Computer name is "short". (my personal laptop was unsigned, which went well with .int. subnet at wo

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-06 Thread Alexander Stielau
Am Don, Jan 04, 2001 at 04:57:03 +0100 schrieb Jérôme Lacoste: > Here's what I think can be done (LAP identifies things that have a more > important effect when used on a laptop compared to the desktop): You can change the 'pollution preventer'-logo at startup on award-bioses. See instructions at

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-06 Thread Alexander Stielau
Am Don, Jan 04, 2001 at 04:57:03 +0100 schrieb Jérôme Lacoste: > Here's what I think can be done (LAP identifies things that have a more > important effect when used on a laptop compared to the desktop): You can change the 'pollution preventer'-logo at startup on award-bioses. See instructions a

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-05 Thread Heather
> Regarding the laptop-protection daemon.. > > > In the case somebody unpluggs the machine while under the xlock (without > > giving the password), then the daemon would detect it and could start doing > > some preventive action, such as: > > - playing a sound with maximum volume saying "I am gett

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-05 Thread Heather
> Regarding the laptop-protection daemon.. > > > In the case somebody unpluggs the machine while under the xlock (without > > giving the password), then the daemon would detect it and could start doing > > some preventive action, such as: > > - playing a sound with maximum volume saying "I am get

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-05 Thread Norman Walsh
> bother to answer the questions as my nice little laptop disappeared from my > office yesterday while I was at home due to flooding in my apartment. Bad > day :( Ugh. Bad day, indeed. Some months ago in response to workplace theft warnings (apparently there are thieves who specialize in slipping

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-05 Thread Norman Walsh
> bother to answer the questions as my nice little laptop disappeared from my > office yesterday while I was at home due to flooding in my apartment. Bad > day :( Ugh. Bad day, indeed. Some months ago in response to workplace theft warnings (apparently there are thieves who specialize in slipping

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-05 Thread Paul Schulz
Regarding the laptop-protection daemon.. > In the case somebody unpluggs the machine while under the xlock (without > giving the password), then the daemon would detect it and could start doing > some preventive action, such as: > - playing a sound with maximum volume saying "I am getting stolen".

RE: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-05 Thread Jérôme Lacoste
> I once ran across an old DOS utility that did something like > this. IIRC It > embedded itself into the bootsector and upon a certain keycombe it would > throw a serial number onto the screen and play an audio code through the > speaker (in case th monitor was no longer usable for whatever > re

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-05 Thread Paul Schulz
Regarding the laptop-protection daemon.. > In the case somebody unpluggs the machine while under the xlock (without > giving the password), then the daemon would detect it and could start doing > some preventive action, such as: > - playing a sound with maximum volume saying "I am getting stolen"

RE: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-05 Thread Jérôme Lacoste
> -Original Message- > From: Hubert Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Hubert Chan > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:47 PM > To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security? > [...] > You missed the, IMHO,

RE: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-05 Thread Jérôme Lacoste
> I once ran across an old DOS utility that did something like > this. IIRC It > embedded itself into the bootsector and upon a certain keycombe it would > throw a serial number onto the screen and play an audio code through the > speaker (in case th monitor was no longer usable for whatever > r

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-05 Thread Heather
> On my Thinkpad I have a sticker that clearly says "Does Not Run Windows". My (main) laptop has a debian 1" x 1" square tab next to the Ricoh OEM logo, and another 1" "tux the penguin" OEM tab elsewhere on the machine. It doesn't -say- that it doesn't run windows... but it doesn't, that's true

RE: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-05 Thread Jérôme Lacoste
> -Original Message- > From: Hubert Chan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Hubert Chan > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 6:47 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security? > [...] > You missed the, IMHO, most ef

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-04 Thread Heather
> On my Thinkpad I have a sticker that clearly says "Does Not Run Windows". My (main) laptop has a debian 1" x 1" square tab next to the Ricoh OEM logo, and another 1" "tux the penguin" OEM tab elsewhere on the machine. It doesn't -say- that it doesn't run windows... but it doesn't, that's tru

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-04 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 05 January 2001 02:57, Jérôme Lacoste wrote: > Some of you may have read one of my last mail in the list on the 29th. > Don't bother to answer the questions as my nice little laptop disappeared > from my office yesterday while I was at home due to flooding in my > apartment. Bad day :( O

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-04 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 05 January 2001 02:57, Jérôme Lacoste wrote: > Some of you may have read one of my last mail in the list on the 29th. > Don't bother to answer the questions as my nice little laptop disappeared > from my office yesterday while I was at home due to flooding in my > apartment. Bad day :(

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-04 Thread Mike
Jérôme Lacoste wrote: > [pre-scriptum: if anybody thinks this has nothing to do with the > debian-laptop, please redirect me] > > Hei, > > Some of you may have read one of my last mail in the list on the 29th. Don't > bother to answer the questions as my nice little laptop disappeared from my > o

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-04 Thread Mike
Jérôme Lacoste wrote: > [pre-scriptum: if anybody thinks this has nothing to do with the > debian-laptop, please redirect me] > > Hei, > > Some of you may have read one of my last mail in the list on the 29th. Don't > bother to answer the questions as my nice little laptop disappeared from my >

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-04 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Jérôme" == Jérôme Lacoste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jérôme> My goal is to try to make an up-to-date list of the current means Jérôme> to secure both the hardware and the data (for a laptop). What I Jérôme> think is important is no

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-04 Thread Werner Heuser
Hi, ... > Anyway, I just had a quick look to the security chapter in the Laptop HOW-TO > and in the Security HOW-TO as well. I think that security associated with > laptop devices require specific attention. ... You may find some additional information at my page DATABASES OF STOLEN LAPTOPS http:

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-04 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Jérôme" == Jérôme Lacoste <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Jérôme> My goal is to try to make an up-to-date list of the current means Jérôme> to secure both the hardware and the data (for a laptop). What I Jérôme> think is important is n

Re: Stolen laptop - how to increase security?

2001-01-04 Thread Werner Heuser
Hi, ... > Anyway, I just had a quick look to the security chapter in the Laptop HOW-TO > and in the Security HOW-TO as well. I think that security associated with > laptop devices require specific attention. ... You may find some additional information at my page DATABASES OF STOLEN LAPTOPS http