Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-18 Thread Ryan Heise
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 06:56:08AM +0300, Crash Override wrote: > On Tuesday 12 April 2005 06:15, Ryan Heise wrote: > > I'm not sure if this would work because my laptop causes the debian > > installer to freeze during pcmcia detection. > > > > Ryan > > At boot time, try: > kernel26 pci=bios,biosi

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-13 Thread teefour
hi, Atanas Atanasov wrote: I have a desktop with the 3c940/marvell onboard which uses the sk98lin driver. When I first installed on it, woody was still the way to go. Of course, the nic was not supported at that time. (kernel 2.4.18bf2) So I installed the system as usual from cd and afterwards c

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-13 Thread Martin Theiss
Hi Atanas Atanasov, *, Atanas Atanasov wrote: > Can someone open http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html. > If yes please send me this FAQ by email. > Enter in Google and click on "Google Cache-Version". DONE ;) If it doesn't work, here is the Google Link: http://66.102.9.104/search?

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-13 Thread Atanas Atanasov
Can someone open http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html. If yes please send me this FAQ by email.

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-13 Thread Atanas Atanasov
I would like to ask a quite strange question. I know this might not be the exact place, but sitll hope that anyone might help. I have a 40gb hard with just 1 partition on it - NTFS. I want to make it just 10gb (the data on it is about 5gb). I read that knoppix and then qtparted should help. But un

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-12 Thread Crash Override
On Tuesday 12 April 2005 07:19, Ryan Heise wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 01:11:35PM +1000, Ryan Heise wrote: > > - netinstall doesn't include up-to-date network card drivers, and can't > > detect my network card. > > - a full CD install requires 14 CDs, which is too many. > > Someone offered m

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Ryan Heise
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 01:11:35PM +1000, Ryan Heise wrote: > - netinstall doesn't include up-to-date network card drivers, and can't > detect my network card. > - a full CD install requires 14 CDs, which is too many. Someone offered me a third option by private email (thanks!) The CD install a

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Crash Override
On Tuesday 12 April 2005 06:15, Ryan Heise wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 04:05:46PM +0300, Kfir Lavi wrote: > > instead of paying for cd's that will last for 1 week, just go and buy > > from ebay xircom realport pcmcia. > > I'm not sure if this would work because my laptop causes the debian > in

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Ryan Heise
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 04:05:46PM +0300, Kfir Lavi wrote: > instead of paying for cd's that will last for 1 week, just go and buy from > ebay xircom realport pcmcia. I'm not sure if this would work because my laptop causes the debian installer to freeze during pcmcia detection. Ryan -- To UN

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Ryan Heise
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:40:11AM +1000, Ryan Heise wrote: > I think this may be because the version of the driver included in RC3 > is not recent enough for my card. Okay it seems that both RC3, and the latest daily build, have an old version of sk98lin (6.23). The latest version is now 8.16. I

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Ryan Heise
On Tue, Apr 12, 2005 at 12:01:03AM +1000, Ryan Heise wrote: > Sounds hopeful, but I am not sure how to enable it. There is a point in > the installation where the installer tells me it can't detect my network > card, and asks me to select it from a list. In that list, there is no > sk98lin. Oops,

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Monday 11 April 2005 17:01, Ryan Heise wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 05:24:27AM -0700, Ian Greenhoe wrote: > > > So far, I tried RC3 and it did not include the sk98lin driver, so I > > > couldn't install from it. > > > > I disagree with ya there: I just downloaded the sarge RC3 netinst, and >

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Ryan Heise
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 05:24:27AM -0700, Ian Greenhoe wrote: > > So far, I tried RC3 and it did not include the sk98lin driver, so I > > couldn't install from it. > > I disagree with ya there: I just downloaded the sarge RC3 netinst, and > both the 2.4.27 kernel and the 2.6.8 kernel contain the s

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Nico Golde
Hallo Atanas, * Atanas Atanasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-04-10 23:29]: > This is my first post in the mailing list and I am sorry if it > contains an stupid question. I am a debian newbie. > > I would like to install debian 3.0 r4 woody on a laptop (hp nx 9020). > After I do a proper installatio

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Monday 11 April 2005 09:41, Ryan Heise wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 08:18:20AM +0200, Atanas Atanasov wrote: > > I am afraid the same might happen to me. That's why my initial idea > > was to use the ready cd-images and have them burned. > > According to: > > http://cdimage.debian.org/pu

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Ian Greenhoe
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 20:17 +1000, Ryan Heise wrote: > As I mentioned, I would *much* prefer to use netinstall. Sorry, I missed that part of the thread. My Bad. :( > BUT, > > Can someone tell me if the netinstall CD includes the driver for my > network card: sk98lin? And if so, which version?

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Ryan Heise
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 12:21:36AM -0700, Ian Greenhoe wrote: > Or, do something revolutionary: > Use the netinstall... As I mentioned, I would *much* prefer to use netinstall. BUT, Can someone tell me if the netinstall CD includes the driver for my network card: sk98lin? And if so, which versio

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Ian Greenhoe
In answer to your question: I do not know. I know that the first CD is necessary for a base system, and the rest tend to have packages placed by popularity. So, the first three or four is a reasonably good guess. OTOH, I was trying to find a reference to the netless upgrade route for Debian, bu

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Atanas Atanasov
I prefer getting the isos because at home I am short of bandwidth. On the other habd I can download more on another place, say using torrent or something like this. Just need to know how many of the first CDs I need for a workstation, not very limited. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Ian Greenhoe
Or, do something revolutionary: Use the netinstall... but it depends *how* short on bw you are. For a simple system, you are probably looking at around 640M downloaded. On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 16:41 +1000, Ryan Heise wrote: > According to: > > http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/weekly/i386/ > >

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Atanas Atanasov
So can I set up a normal workstation with those first 3 CDs that you recomment. And if later on I need to put some server stuff I would just download it. During the installation how do I know which packages are on the first 3 CDs so that I will limit my choice only to them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, em

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-11 Thread Atanas Atanasov
A friend of mine has bought sarge on CDs from an online reseller relatively cheap. Unfortunatelly I cannot find him now and ask where did he get this from. He actually mentioned a price about $10-$15 with delivery which is almost incredible for 14 CDs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Ryan Heise
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 08:18:20AM +0200, Atanas Atanasov wrote: > I am afraid the same might happen to me. That's why my initial idea > was to use the ready cd-images and have them burned. According to: http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/weekly/i386/ there are 14 CDs in the set, which seems a bi

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Atanas Atanasov
I am afraid the same might happen to me. That's why my initial idea was to use the ready cd-images and have them burned. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Ryan Heise
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 01:12:21AM +0300, Kfir Lavi wrote: > I'm running sarge on a laptop. > Don't download nothing. > Just get the floppies or the cdrom of the network installation, and start the > installation. I downloaded RC3 of netinst a couple of weeks ago, but it didn't include the etherne

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Atanas Atanasov
I am getting the netinst cd for sarge. I only doubt whether I will manage to make it run with my network. I have got my computer running Win, so I will be connection the laptio to it and sharing the internet connection (as I do with another laptop). Would this netcd be able to get with the network,

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Kfir Lavi
On Monday 11 April 2005 00:37, you wrote: > I will keep in mind that sarge uses 2.6 kernel. I am asking for it > because I read in many sites that this kernel runs well with laptops > and it contains many improvements from 2.4. Actually I started > downloading woody and I have the first several CD-

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Ian Greenhoe
You probably do not want to run woody with a 2.6 kernel. There are several system components that need to be updated (such as the module loader) that I do not believe were back-ported into woody (Hey Guys -- feel free to correct me if I'm wrong!) Now, you could get the components necessary from

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Atanas Atanasov
I am totally convinced - sarge is the best. Initially I started with woody because the rest had the "testing" label which could mean many things especially when it concerns linux. I hoped that I will be able to buy a cheaper sarge distro but in vain. I don't want to gove that money if I know that

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Norton
go to http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages , choose testing and type the package... that's it... optionally, "apt-get install package", (don't forget to update /etc/apt/sources.list with testing). See my sources.list: deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian testing contrib main non-free Em Seg, 2005-

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Norton
> How many of the CDs do I need for a woody installation. I do not mean > only a workstation because I might start putting sever stuff which > will need more CDs unfortunately. you might put a simple workstation and download the rest through apt-get > Where can I get the source of the sarge kern

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Atanas Atanasov
Ok, I will finally decide on sarge. Anyway can I get this necessary package from somewhere and put it with the 2.6 on woody. And by the way. When I went to the resellers list it was written that most of them sell the distros for less than $5. Then I checked their sires and didn't find anything les

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Atanas Atanasov
Ok I might change my mind and start downloading sarge, or just order it. Anyway. How many of the CDs do I need for a woody installation. I do not mean only a workstation because I might start putting sever stuff which will need more CDs unfortunately. Where can I get the source of the sarge kerne

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Kai Hildebrandt
On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 23:37:00 +0200 Atanas Atanasov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I will keep in mind that sarge uses 2.6 kernel. I am asking for it > because I read in many sites that this kernel runs well with laptops > and it contains many improvements from 2.4. Actually I started > downloading w

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Angelina Carlton
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 11:37:00PM +0200, Atanas Atanasov wrote: > I will keep in mind that sarge uses 2.6 kernel. I am asking for it > because I read in many sites that this kernel runs well with laptops > and it contains many improvements from 2.4. Actually I started > downloading woody and I hav

Re: Kernel 2.6.xx

2005-04-10 Thread Atanas Atanasov
I will keep in mind that sarge uses 2.6 kernel. I am asking for it because I read in many sites that this kernel runs well with laptops and it contains many improvements from 2.4. Actually I started downloading woody and I have the first several CD-s. Isn't it possible just to recompile the core fr