Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-15 Thread mi
I removed and inserted the battery several times on-line with no obvious harm. Dell Inspiron 5000. micha. Ross Burton: > Would it be safe to remove the battery whilst on? I don't fancy having

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-15 Thread mi
I removed and inserted the battery several times on-line with no obvious harm. Dell Inspiron 5000. micha. Ross Burton: > Would it be safe to remove the battery whilst on? I don't fancy having

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:13, Ross Burton wrote: > Doh, IBM ThinkPad X22. > > Would it be safe to remove the battery whilst on? I don't fancy having > to shutdown/startup twice a day! I've tried that on several models of Thinkpad and friends have tried it on several other models. All the test resul

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-14 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 18:03, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > Short answer: Yes. > > Long answer: It does if the battery keeps charging, which it might or > might not. Modern batteries often contain smart circuitry that governs > how they charge. This generally helps lengthen the battery life (unless > you

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-14 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:13, Ross Burton wrote: > Doh, IBM ThinkPad X22. > > Would it be safe to remove the battery whilst on? I don't fancy having > to shutdown/startup twice a day! I've tried that on several models of Thinkpad and friends have tried it on several other models. All the test resul

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery fulldrains, *read this*

2003-02-14 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 18:03, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > Short answer: Yes. > > Long answer: It does if the battery keeps charging, which it might or > might not. Modern batteries often contain smart circuitry that governs > how they charge. This generally helps lengthen the battery life (unless > you

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-13 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 12:57, David Emerson wrote: > I'm no expert here, but from what I can tell by reading the last week's posts, > > FULL DRAINS ARE BAD FOR LI-ION Right. > I'd say that's your main problem, and since you're now draining it to 4%, > it sounds like your battery might start degra

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-13 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 12:57, David Emerson wrote: > I'm no expert here, but from what I can tell by reading the last week's posts, > > FULL DRAINS ARE BAD FOR LI-ION Right. > I'd say that's your main problem, and since you're now draining it to 4%, > it sounds like your battery might start degra

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:55, yoda2 wrote: > Regarding the removal off the battery when on AC, i was wondering if > that's a good thing to do. I was told the battery "filters" the spikes > from the powernet so the electronics of you laptop get a stable spike > free current > > So the "filter" stor

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread yoda2
Regarding the removal off the battery when on AC, i was wondering if that's a good thing to do. I was told the battery "filters" the spikes from the powernet so the electronics of you laptop get a stable spike free current So the "filter" story is nonsense? kind regards, Asim [EMAIL PR

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread jpcl
> At the very least, I find taking the battery out helps the laptop run > cooler. :) You surely mean that in a general sense, right? You're not talking about cpu/system temperature as measured by termal sensors, are you? I surely would like to only remove my battery and get a laptop that stops ru

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 23:55, yoda2 wrote: > Regarding the removal off the battery when on AC, i was wondering if > that's a good thing to do. I was told the battery "filters" the spikes > from the powernet so the electronics of you laptop get a stable spike > free current > > So the "filter" stor

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains,*read this*

2003-02-13 Thread yoda2
Regarding the removal off the battery when on AC, i was wondering if that's a good thing to do. I was told the battery "filters" the spikes from the powernet so the electronics of you laptop get a stable spike free current So the "filter" story is nonsense? kind regards, Asim [EMAIL PRO

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread jpcl
> At the very least, I find taking the battery out helps the laptop run > cooler. :) You surely mean that in a general sense, right? You're not talking about cpu/system temperature as measured by termal sensors, are you? I surely would like to only remove my battery and get a laptop that stops ru

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-13 Thread David Emerson
I'm no expert here, but from what I can tell by reading the last week's posts, FULL DRAINS ARE BAD FOR LI-ION I'd say that's your main problem, and since you're now draining it to 4%, it sounds like your battery might start degrading more rapidly. (I have no idea about the truth of that latter

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 04:43, Ross Burton wrote: > On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 07:15, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. > > My LiIon battery gets heavy use. Twice a day (on the way to work, and > back again) I use it for 1.5 hours, typically compiling cod

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-13 Thread David Emerson
I'm no expert here, but from what I can tell by reading the last week's posts, FULL DRAINS ARE BAD FOR LI-ION I'd say that's your main problem, and since you're now draining it to 4%, it sounds like your battery might start degrading more rapidly. (I have no idea about the truth of that latter

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery fulldrains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 04:43, Ross Burton wrote: > On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 07:15, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. > > My LiIon battery gets heavy use. Twice a day (on the way to work, and > back again) I use it for 1.5 hours, typically compiling cod

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 07:15, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. My LiIon battery gets heavy use. Twice a day (on the way to work, and back again) I use it for 1.5 hours, typically compiling code. I used to go from 100% to 25%, but now I just make it t

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Andrew McMillan
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 20:05, mi wrote: > Hello Joe. > > Thanks for your enduring efforts ! > > > - Store it at 40% charge. Not 100%. > > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. > > - Don't store it anywhere particularly hot or cold or wet. > > Does this mean it'd be best to

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery fulldrains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Ross Burton
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 07:15, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. My LiIon battery gets heavy use. Twice a day (on the way to work, and back again) I use it for 1.5 hours, typically compiling code. I used to go from 100% to 25%, but now I just make it t

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread mi
Hello Joe. Thanks for your enduring efforts ! > - Store it at 40% charge. Not 100%. > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. > - Don't store it anywhere particularly hot or cold or wet. Does this mean it'd be best to stop working at 40 % ? Never use up the battery's capabil

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery fulldrains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Andrew McMillan
On Thu, 2003-02-13 at 20:05, mi wrote: > Hello Joe. > > Thanks for your enduring efforts ! > > > - Store it at 40% charge. Not 100%. > > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. > > - Don't store it anywhere particularly hot or cold or wet. > > Does this mean it'd be best to

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 21:59, CaT wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:32:12PM -0800, suresh kumar sharma wrote: > > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . > > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > > I have tried it in Windows als

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery full drains, *read this*

2003-02-13 Thread mi
Hello Joe. Thanks for your enduring efforts ! > - Store it at 40% charge. Not 100%. > - Don't leave it in the laptop while it's in mains power. > - Don't store it anywhere particularly hot or cold or wet. Does this mean it'd be best to stop working at 40 % ? Never use up the battery's capabil

Re: Battery life recovery - Everyone suggesting battery fulldrains, *read this*

2003-02-12 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2003-02-12 at 21:59, CaT wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:32:12PM -0800, suresh kumar sharma wrote: > > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . > > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > > I have tried it in Windows als

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-12 Thread KryptoBSD
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:59:40 +1100 CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:32:12PM -0800, suresh kumar sharma wrote: > > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . > > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > > I h

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-12 Thread kheb
suresh kumar sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . Me too > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > I have tried it in Windows also same problem . > does anybody know how I can get some

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-12 Thread CaT
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:32:12PM -0800, suresh kumar sharma wrote: > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > I have tried it in Windows also same problem . > does anybody know how I can get

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-12 Thread KryptoBSD
On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 14:59:40 +1100 CaT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:32:12PM -0800, suresh kumar sharma wrote: > > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . > > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > > I h

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-12 Thread kheb
suresh kumar sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . Me too > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > I have tried it in Windows also same problem . > does anybody know how I can get some

Re: Battery life recovery

2003-02-12 Thread CaT
On Wed, Feb 12, 2003 at 07:32:12PM -0800, suresh kumar sharma wrote: > I have a sony vaio PCG-FXA36 laptop . > its about a year old, problem is the battery does not > last more than 15-20 min. with normal operation . > I have tried it in Windows also same problem . > does anybody know how I can get