Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade [solved?]

2014-12-19 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
Hi, Sorry to reopen the issue, but I have faced the same problem today. There was un upgrade, but I don't think anything related to systemd or login. Anyway, nothing helped : halt -p, poweroff, systemctl poweroff... Neither as user nor as root, from console or gnome terminal... The physical pow

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-19 Thread Michael
Like https://bugzilla.kernel.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=systemd https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=systemd https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Known_Issues_and_Workarounds ? > Could you please point me (us?) to a good and reasonably short summary > about the known is

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-19 Thread llcfree
On Thu, 2014-12-18 at 22:24 +0100, Michael wrote: > Florian, > > Well, you can see it this way. I'd rather seen a bit more sensibility in > doing that 'big step' when it means so much damage. > > > systemd is a big step for debian, but its not the cause for everything. > > Yes, true. > > Well

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-19 Thread Florian Reitmeir
On 12/19/14 08:02, Rainer H. Rauschenberg wrote: > On Thu, 18 Dec 2014, Florian Reitmeir wrote: >> On 12/18/14 21:22, Michael wrote: >>> i did not mean it literally. I meant that systemd upstream rejected to >>> care for any other kernel, than Linux, and that was the result. I can >>> dig up the

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-19 Thread Rainer H. Rauschenberg
On Thu, 18 Dec 2014, Florian Reitmeir wrote: > On 12/18/14 21:22, Michael wrote: > > i did not mean it literally. I meant that systemd upstream rejected to > > care for any other kernel, than Linux, and that was the result. I can > > dig up the respective mails if you require me too, but it wil

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-18 Thread Michael
Florian, Well, you can see it this way. I'd rather seen a bit more sensibility in doing that 'big step' when it means so much damage. > systemd is a big step for debian, but its not the cause for everything. Yes, true. Well, anyway, poweroff button stopped working for me too, on both my lapto

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-18 Thread Florian Reitmeir
Hi, for openbsd like other architectures .. e.g. GNU/HURD, M68, PowerPC there were simply not enough developers and users. if the openbsd-debian people perform and get their port in order, there is no problem in releasing the next time. systemd is a big step for debian, but its not the cause for

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-18 Thread Michael
Florian, i did not mean it literally. I meant that systemd upstream rejected to care for any other kernel, than Linux, and that was the result. I can dig up the respective mails if you require me too, but it will be some work since i did not bookmark them (and i have no browser history). But,

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade [solved?]

2014-12-18 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
Hi again, Just for completeness: the laptop went power off normally after a normal day of work. No idea what my have triggered the odd behaviour from Monday 15 to Wednesday 17, neither about what solved the issue today: I haven't made any significant upgrade since Monday... Thanks to all who pro

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-18 Thread Florian Reitmeir
Hi, On 12/18/14 12:56, Michael wrote: >> The systemd point of view is that any breakage is caused by other >> packages failing to detect that systemd is installed. > > And besides, that's how they shot down the Debian OpenBSD port, just like > that. thats not true. greetings -- Florian Rei

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-18 Thread Michael
Bjørn, > Yes, systemd will happily break existing ACPI PM setups without any > warning. > > The systemd point of view is that any breakage is caused by other > packages failing to detect that systemd is installed. And besides, that's how they shot down the Debian OpenBSD port, just like that.

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade [solved?]

2014-12-18 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
Hi, Big thanks to Eddy (yes, I can read French :-) ), Michael and Bjørn for your responses. Just a note: in /etc/default/halt I already had: HALT=poweroff Having said that, great mystery: I touched nothing, and poweroff works today... Well, this is actually what I did after reading your three me

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-18 Thread Bjørn Mork
Michael writes: > Edit /etc/default/halt and change the value as Eddy writes. > > Yes, systemd is probably the cause, it replaced pm acpi by its own > terminology, disregarding the legacy convention. Yes, systemd will happily break existing ACPI PM setups without any warning. The systemd point

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-17 Thread Michael
Edit /etc/default/halt and change the value as Eddy writes. Yes, systemd is probably the cause, it replaced pm acpi by its own terminology, disregarding the legacy convention. if nothing else helps, replace systemd with systemd-shim emulation (maybe also switching back to sysvinit). -- To UN

Re: No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-17 Thread Eddy F.
Le 17 déc 2014 à 10:36 (+0100) Miguel Ortiz Lombardía a écrit: > > Hi, > > I'm running Debian testing (jessie) on an HP EliteBook 840 G1 laptop. > Everything goes reasonably well, even very well, except that after > running apt-get update/upgrade on Monday (15 December) I cannot halt > (powerof

No halt/poweroff on an EliteBook 840 G1 after upgrade

2014-12-17 Thread Miguel Ortiz Lombardía
Hi, I'm running Debian testing (jessie) on an HP EliteBook 840 G1 laptop. Everything goes reasonably well, even very well, except that after running apt-get update/upgrade on Monday (15 December) I cannot halt (poweroff) the computer. When I try to switch it off it just reboots. I manage to get i