> follows that. I might have a more favorable opinion of Debian if it
> installed correctly, if it supported more hardware out of the box, if it
> allowed me to log in as 'Root' (Which I sometimes need), and if the software
> on the CDs worked without corrupting the operating system.
the installer
On Monday 03 January 2005 07:29 am, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
> El jue, 30-12-2004 a las 13:28 -0400, Derek Broughton escribió:
> [...]
>
> > Ubuntu installed on my Dell Inspiron right out of the box. Too bad I
> > forgot what I used for the root password :-)
>
> Boot from Ubuntu Live CD or
On Monday, 3. January 2005 13.29, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote:
> El jue, 30-12-2004 a las 13:28 -0400, Derek Broughton escribiÃ:
> [...]
>
> > Ubuntu installed on my Dell Inspiron right out of the box. Too bad I
> > forgot what I used for the root password :-)
>
> Boot from Ubuntu Live CD or K
El jue, 30-12-2004 a las 13:28 -0400, Derek Broughton escribiÃ:
[...]
>
> Ubuntu installed on my Dell Inspiron right out of the box. Too bad I forgot
> what I used for the root password :-)
>
Boot from Ubuntu Live CD or Knoppix, mount root partition on /mnt or
something like that, edit /et/pa
> Apple's operating system is not based on Linux.
my mistake... bsd
>
>
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>
> Here, you just hit the problem on the head. Most people are not
> programmers. Most people have other jobs and other interests.
you don't need to be a programmer... I know almost nothing about hardware,
so I'm quite useless to improve low level linu
it may be there, but simply did not work with me.
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 23:44:46 +0100, Mauro Darida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 at 14:07:29 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >
>> > The biggest benefit is the 2.6 kernel... which means ACPI... I could
>> not
>> > get ACPI w
Everybody said:
> >>(Sarge comes with 14 CDs. People like me have no idea what most of those
> >>programs are or how they are supposed to be used.)
> >
> >yeah... but download only the 2 first... that was all I needed for one of
> >the laptops... the other I used a net install. But I agree that
>
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The
installer has too many problems. Once you get to the point of cataloging
your CDs, it can't find my CD ROM on any laptop. (2 Toshiba Satellites and
2 Gateway Solos) And my external CD ROM is useless with this distro.
that is really strange, for I
Ryan D'Baisse wrote:
> 1. Woody versus Sarge. Any idea when Sarge will be released?
Any day now. If you had asked that question six months ago the answer
would have been any day now too. :-/
> Any major benefits over Woody?
Yes. Every release will almost always have many benefits and many
ad
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 23:44:46 +0100, Mauro Darida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 at 14:07:29 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > The biggest benefit is the 2.6 kernel... which means ACPI... I could not
> > get ACPI with the 2.4, you have to patch etc etc
> >
> False. Latest Lin
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 at 14:07:29 +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> The biggest benefit is the 2.6 kernel... which means ACPI... I could not
> get ACPI with the 2.4, you have to patch etc etc
>
False. Latest Linus 2.4 kernels (i.e.2.4.24) do have ACPI support in
place.
--
On this laptop no Windo
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 at 17:20:53 +, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
>
> I think the default kernel in woody is some old 2.2 kernel! (Yeah it's really
> that old!) You really should consider installing sarge instead. It is not far
> from being released as stable. Sarge will let you choose bet
On Saturday 25 December 2004 22:38, Tim Ebenezer wrote:
> | 5. And, finally, my biggest problem, and one of the reasons I am
> | looking to leave Fedora, is ACPI. I have to bypass it with later
> | versions of the FC2 kernel and with the base install of FC3. And,
> | unfortunately, there are prob
On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 01:30:06 +0100, norton wrote:
>> It also seemed to easy to corrupt
>> the system by installing the wrong program from one of the downloaded CDs.
That is less likely to happen with Debian than with any other distro, if
you are using apt.
>> (Sarge comes with 14 CDs. People li
> The
> installer has too many problems. Once you get to the point of cataloging
> your CDs, it can't find my CD ROM on any laptop. (2 Toshiba Satellites and
> 2 Gateway Solos) And my external CD ROM is useless with this distro.
that is really strange, for I have already installed in 2 laptops an
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
2. I do not want my machine to be a sandbox for other developers. I
do not want to update my machine only to find that something has been
changed or is now broken. Hence, my reason for being on FC2 with an
outdated kernel for so long. It works;;
we
> 2. I do not want my machine to be a sandbox for other developers. I
> do not want to update my machine only to find that something has been
> changed or is now broken. Hence, my reason for being on FC2 with an
> outdated kernel for so long. It works;;
well, I must say taht I run debian sarge
On Sunday 26 December 2004 02:58 pm, Ryan D'Baisse wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 23:10:56 +0100, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Choose Debian if you want freedom, modularity, APT, and attention to
> > technical detail. Choose Libranet or Ubuntu if you want all of the
> > above plus easi
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 23:10:56 +0100, Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Choose Debian if you want freedom, modularity, APT, and attention to
> technical detail. Choose Libranet or Ubuntu if you want all of the
> above plus easier installation and configuration, minus some freedom.
> Choose
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 03:30:07 +0100, Ryan D'Baisse wrote:
> 3. My primary machine is a laptop (Toshiba 5005-S507). Most of the
> info I can find on Google, pertaining to laptops, is for Fedora or
> Mandrake. How well does Debian handle laptops?
If you have a laptop then there is no distribution
On Sunday 26 December 2004 16:49, Ryan D'Baisse wrote:
> 1. Woody versus Sarge. Any idea when Sarge will be released? Any
> major benefits over Woody?
Sarge, and I believe I speak for everyone. The new installer is just such an
improvement over the woody installer (which is hopeless in comparis
> 1. Woody versus Sarge. Any idea when Sarge will be released? Any
> major benefits over Woody?
No idea about the release...
The biggest benefit is the 2.6 kernel... which means ACPI... I could not
get ACPI with the 2.4, you have to patch etc etc
> 2. It sounds as if I am going to have to get c
Thanks for all of the responses! So far, Debian folks sure are helpful! =)
I have a few more questions, if that's okay...
1. Woody versus Sarge. Any idea when Sarge will be released? Any
major benefits over Woody?
2. It sounds as if I am going to have to get comfy with compiling the
kernel,
On Saturday 25 December 2004 09:21 pm, Ryan D'Baisse wrote:
> I am looking to move from FC2 to Debian, but have questions...
>
> 2. I have been reading two books, "Linux Pocket Guide," by O'Reilly,
> and "Beginning Linux Programming," by Wrox. Both tend to stress Red
> Hat and Fedora. Will these
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 09:15:00 +0100
Anders Ellenshøj Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> /usr/src# dpkg -i kernel-image-2.***
Hm... I need to run update-grub manually here. Maybe it's different when
you have a system updated from woody as if you installed sarge from
scratch? Like I still have a
On Sunday 26 December 2004 07:58, you wrote:
> > Huh? Don't you mean apt-get install kernel-package?
> >
> > There is no make-kpkg package.
>
> No, it's called "kernel-package", but there is such a command, and it's
> damned useful to use to build customised kernel packages.
That's what I wrote, j
On Sun, 26 Dec 2004 05:28 pm, Andrew McMillan wrote:
> No, it's called "kernel-package", but there is such a command, and it's
> damned useful to use to build customised kernel packages.
have a look at:
http://www.desktop-linux.net/debkernel.htm
a useful howto on doing a kernel (2.6 in this case
On Sun, 2004-12-26 at 07:25 +0100, Anders EllenshÃj Andersen wrote:
> On Sunday 26 December 2004 06:40, Tim Ebenezer wrote:
> > Hi Again,
>
> > I built my kernel from source without it. Debian has a very unique great
> > way of installing a kernel. First apt-get kernel-source-2.6.x (x being
>
> S
On Sunday 26 December 2004 06:40, Tim Ebenezer wrote:
> Hi Again,
> I built my kernel from source without it. Debian has a very unique great
> way of installing a kernel. First apt-get kernel-source-2.6.x (x being
Shouldn't that be apt-get install kernel-source-2.6.x?
> the version you want), th
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Ryan D'Baisse wrote:
| I have looked there and they do have mine listed. Unfortunately, the
| walk-through is for Fedora and RH9. Not knowing much about the
| differences, I was not too sure how much of it would apply to Debian.
Peripheral d
er of courtesy to the hard working folks at
Libranet. And good manners.
Dave W Pastern
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My apologies
Howdy
I installed FC1 in my laptop... had problems... installed FC2, had
problems... installed Debian Sarge... no problem ;-)
> 1. I am still a Linux newbie. Most of the install issues, both with
> the OS and with applications, have been taken care of for me with the
> slick install wizard and t
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Hi Ryan..
Ryan D'Baisse wrote:
| I am looking to move from FC2 to Debian, but have questions...
I haven't used Redhat since it was Redhat, but here goes..
| 1. I am still a Linux newbie. Most of the install issues, both with
| the OS and with applicati
My apologies for x-posting this. I originally posted it to
debian-users and THEN noticed that there was a group specifically for
laptops. It won't happen again.
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I am looking to move from FC2 to Debian, but have questions...
1. I am still a Linux newbie. Most of the instal
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