Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-10 Thread Heather
> True, but I think it should be noted that there's only one likely situation > of serious data loss that seems to be known with APM (that's related to DMA > driven IDE drives operating at the time of suspend). Everybody in the world who has a "crashes when tries to resume" problem has experien

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-10 Thread Heather
> True, but I think it should be noted that there's only one likely situation > of serious data loss that seems to be known with APM (that's related to DMA > driven IDE drives operating at the time of suspend). Everybody in the world who has a "crashes when tries to resume" problem has experie

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:58, Heather wrote: > The choice of experimenting with crappy APM (because the Beast From Redmond > implements ACPI so much better than they implement APM, hardware > manufacturers no longer properly regression test it; I have first hand > experience with that issue) ... > >

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-10 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 10 Mar 2002 07:58, Heather wrote: > The choice of experimenting with crappy APM (because the Beast From Redmond > implements ACPI so much better than they implement APM, hardware > manufacturers no longer properly regression test it; I have first hand > experience with that issue) ... > >

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-10 Thread Heather
> ACPI is very complex, there is some sort of programming language needed for > communication with the BIOS, and to make things even more challenging many > laptops get it wrong in subtle ways because there wasn't much OS support to > test it with at the time they were designed! Well, they fai

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-09 Thread Heather
> ACPI is very complex, there is some sort of programming language needed for > communication with the BIOS, and to make things even more challenging many > laptops get it wrong in subtle ways because there wasn't much OS support to > test it with at the time they were designed! Well, they fa

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-09 Thread Romain FRANCOISE
Russell Coker writes: > ACPI is still quite experimental, and I recommend not using it unless you > want to help in testing or development. So if you want to just use a laptop > to get things done (as the original question was about) then APM is really > the only option. Sure, but some laptop

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-09 Thread Romain FRANCOISE
Russell Coker writes: > ACPI is still quite experimental, and I recommend not using it unless you > want to help in testing or development. So if you want to just use a laptop > to get things done (as the original question was about) then APM is really > the only option. Sure, but some lapto

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 22:41, Heather wrote: > > If you want to try ACPI, though, beware that kernel support for it is > > not as mature as for APM, and it may not work as well. > > To clarify re ACPI: > > Kernel support seems to be much further along than it was several months > ago... but that's just

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-09 Thread Heather
> Richard Wurdack writes: > >> I discover, however, that if I shut the lid on the box (it might be > >> hibernating, don't know - I didn't doing anything special for APM), > >> and reopen it, pon can't dial out without a reboot (just like > >> Windows!). > > ThinkPads, by default, suspend when you

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 9 Mar 2002 22:41, Heather wrote: > > If you want to try ACPI, though, beware that kernel support for it is > > not as mature as for APM, and it may not work as well. > > To clarify re ACPI: > > Kernel support seems to be much further along than it was several months > ago... but that's jus

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-09 Thread Heather
> Richard Wurdack writes: > >> I discover, however, that if I shut the lid on the box (it might be > >> hibernating, don't know - I didn't doing anything special for APM), > >> and reopen it, pon can't dial out without a reboot (just like > >> Windows!). > > ThinkPads, by default, suspend when yo

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:23, Richard Wurdack wrote: > I discover, however, that if I shut the lid on the box (it might be > hibernating, don't know - I didn't doing anything special for APM), and > reopen it, pon can't dial out without a reboot (just like Windows!). Here's the APM related kernel buil

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-09 Thread Russell Coker
On Fri, 8 Mar 2002 22:23, Richard Wurdack wrote: > I discover, however, that if I shut the lid on the box (it might be > hibernating, don't know - I didn't doing anything special for APM), and > reopen it, pon can't dial out without a reboot (just like Windows!). Here's the APM related kernel bui

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-09 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Heather" == Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard Wurdack writes: >> I discover, however, that if I shut the lid on the box (it might be >> hibernating, don't know - I didn't doing anything special for APM), >> and reopen it, pon can't d

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-08 Thread Hubert Chan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > "Heather" == Heather <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Richard Wurdack writes: >> I discover, however, that if I shut the lid on the box (it might be >> hibernating, don't know - I didn't doing anything special for APM), >> and reopen it, pon can't

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-08 Thread Heather
> Hello, > > Sorry for the cross-post, but this thread has generic and laptop related > issues. > > I installed Potato (running the default 2.2.19 kernel) on an IBM 600e > Thinkpad about a month ago. I seem to have clobbered something > > This problem list is in chronological order. I'm not (

Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-08 Thread Richard Wurdack
Hello, Sorry for the cross-post, but this thread has generic and laptop related issues. I installed Potato (running the default 2.2.19 kernel) on an IBM 600e Thinkpad about a month ago. I seem to have clobbered something This problem list is in chronological order. I'm not (necessarily) looki

Re: Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-08 Thread Heather
> Hello, > > Sorry for the cross-post, but this thread has generic and laptop related > issues. > > I installed Potato (running the default 2.2.19 kernel) on an IBM 600e > Thinkpad about a month ago. I seem to have clobbered something > > This problem list is in chronological order. I'm not

Basic linux network questions (long)

2002-03-08 Thread Richard Wurdack
Hello, Sorry for the cross-post, but this thread has generic and laptop related issues. I installed Potato (running the default 2.2.19 kernel) on an IBM 600e Thinkpad about a month ago. I seem to have clobbered something This problem list is in chronological order. I'm not (necessarily) look