Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-30 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Adam Majer wrote: Nathanael Nerode wrote: Adam Majer wrote: As to the non-free binary blobs, these are to be moved to non-free. There should be an automatic 'non-free removal patches' (not part of the actual debian source). To follow the X Strike Force model (which seems to work) I suggest

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-22 Thread Colin Watson
On Sat, May 22, 2004 at 01:22:16AM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > Nathanael Nerode wrote: > >Adam Majer wrote: > >>As to the non-free binary blobs, these are to be moved to non-free. > >>There should be an automatic 'non-free removal patches' (not part of > >>the actual debian source). > > > >To follow

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-22 Thread Adam Majer
Nathanael Nerode wrote: Adam Majer wrote: As to the non-free binary blobs, these are to be moved to non-free. There should be an automatic 'non-free removal patches' (not part of the actual debian source). To follow the X Strike Force model (which seems to work) I suggest a 'prune-non-fr

Re: Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-20 Thread Nathanael Nerode
Adam Majer wrote: >Anyway, bitkeeper or CVS would just be for kernel developers, and not for the >end user. Please don't use bitkeeper exclusively; you don't want to exclude people from developing kernel packaging just because they work on (e.g.) subversion or arch development. >As to the non-f

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-18 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, 17 May 2004 21:23:58 +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 01:44:43PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: >> >> I'm just looking at arch. It seems to be better than CVS - I never >> liked the version tracking since it was per file. :) >> >> Thanks for th

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-18 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Tuesday 18 May 2004 13.27, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 01:58:36PM +0800, Eugene Teo wrote: > > I am interested to join/help out in the kernel maintenance. > > > > I am not sure if it matters because I am not a DD yet but I am > > very keen and I do hope to hear from a

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-18 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 01:58:36PM +0800, Eugene Teo wrote: > > I am interested to join/help out in the kernel maintenance. > > I am not sure if it matters because I am not a DD yet but I am > very keen and I do hope to hear from anyone of you soon. > Please consider to join the projecy and pass

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-18 Thread Eugene Teo
Hi there, I am interested to join/help out in the kernel maintenance. I am a long time Debian user for 5-6 years. In the university, I worked on Linux VM-related kernel work, and during my free time, I work on security-related kernel patches which my group will be releasing soon. I am not sure i

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-17 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 01:44:43PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > > I'm just looking at arch. It seems to be better than CVS - I never liked > the version tracking since it was per file. :) > > Thanks for the suggestion - arch seems better than CVS. > Mmm, what's better among subversion and arch?

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-17 Thread Adam Majer
Manoj Srivastava wrote: On Fri, 14 May 2004 20:16:03 -0500, Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: I would consider bitkeeper out of the question for a central repository. CVS and SVN are certainly options, although I tend to prefer arch. Regardless of what's chosen, I plan to still use arch fo

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-17 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 05:27:37PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Christian T. Steigies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040517 16:10]: > > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 03:35:34PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > > All I wish is that we reduce the number of source packages for the > > > kernel, to ease the load

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-17 Thread Andreas Barth
* Christian T. Steigies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040517 16:10]: > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 03:35:34PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > All I wish is that we reduce the number of source packages for the > > kernel, to ease the load for the security team. > I don't see how this reduces the load for the

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-17 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 03:35:34PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > > see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/04/msg06531.html for an > > > > explanaition. > > > Oh... how come I've never seen this before? I thought I subscribed to > > debian-k

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-17 Thread Andreas Barth
* Christian T. Steigies ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040517 12:10]: > On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 10:02:03AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > * Francesco P. Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040517 09:55]: > > > On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 09:34:46AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > > > > One other change I'd like t

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-17 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 10:02:03AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > * Francesco P. Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040517 09:55]: > > On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 09:34:46AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > > > One other change I'd like to see ASAP is to having a "first class > > > architecture set" instead

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-17 Thread Andreas Barth
* Francesco P. Lovergine ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040517 09:55]: > On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 09:34:46AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > One other change I'd like to see ASAP is to having a "first class > > architecture set" instead of a individual kernel for i386 and alpha > > (and possible more to add

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-17 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Sun, May 16, 2004 at 09:34:46AM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote: > > One other change I'd like to see ASAP is to having a "first class > architecture set" instead of a individual kernel for i386 and alpha > (and possible more to add to this). Could you please explain this better? What's s first cla

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-16 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 14 May 2004 20:16:03 -0500, Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: >> I would consider bitkeeper out of the question for a central >> repository. CVS and SVN are certainly options, although I tend to >> prefer arch. Regardless of what's chosen, I plan to still use arch >> for my own work (

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-16 Thread Andreas Barth
* Andres Salomon ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [040514 18:55]: > I've got a small list of interested parties (including Goswin) that I've > emailed Herbert. As far as "lead", I don't know if that's how this should > be structured; I'd see more of a release manager type role. Someone > who plans roadmaps fo

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-14 Thread Adam Majer
Andres Salomon wrote: On Wed, 12 May 2004 06:40:27 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Herbert asked me to get signed mails from all willing to group maintain the kernel on this list and then he would decide. I started sending out some mails to people I know are intrested but haven't sends one to

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-14 Thread Andres Salomon
On Wed, 12 May 2004 06:40:27 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> Christian T. Steigies wrote: >> >>>On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 05:15:56PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: >>> >>> 1. How and who will take over the lead of kernel maintenance? >>> >>>I

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-12 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
On Wed, May 12, 2004 at 06:40:27AM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > I would suggest using something that can handle multiple branches and > makes version tracking between branches easy. It would be nice if we > could add branches for seperate archs that can easily synchronise with > the main

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-11 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Majer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Christian T. Steigies wrote: > >>On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 05:15:56PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: >> >> >>>1. How and who will take over the lead of kernel maintenance? >>> >>> >> >>I do hope that Herbert stays the kernel maintainer. Herbert asked me to get sig

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-11 Thread Adam Majer
Christian T. Steigies wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 05:15:56PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: 1. How and who will take over the lead of kernel maintenance? I do hope that Herbert stays the kernel maintainer. 2. Where will we have the kernel sources? Will these reside in a CVS? Or bitkeeper?

Re: Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-11 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Tue, May 11, 2004 at 05:15:56PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: > > 1. How and who will take over the lead of kernel maintenance? I do hope that Herbert stays the kernel maintainer. > 2. Where will we have the kernel sources? Will these reside in a CVS? Or > bitkeeper? Bitkeeper? How many people

Debian kernel maintainter takeover

2004-05-11 Thread Adam Majer
Hi all, Looking at this list, there has not been many messages related to the actual kernel package over the last few weeks. A few questions and some comments, 1. How and who will take over the lead of kernel maintenance? I'm assuming that maintenance will be closer to what we have with X than