Re: [stable] [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them).

2011-08-24 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Aug 24, 2011, at 06:46, Greg KH wrote: > On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:33:56PM +0200, Jeremiah Foster wrote: >> >> On Aug 17, 2011, at 00:33, Greg KH wrote: >>> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 09:26:24PM +0200, Jeremiah C. Foster wrote: [snip] >>> Are they >>> somehow not doing this job well? >> >>

Re: [stable] [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them).

2011-08-23 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 12:33:56PM +0200, Jeremiah Foster wrote: > > On Aug 17, 2011, at 00:33, Greg KH wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 09:26:24PM +0200, Jeremiah C. Foster wrote: > >> I'd like to echo Ben's sentiment, particularly in the area of automotive. > >> A car has to be supported with

Re: [stable] [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them).

2011-08-23 Thread Greg KH
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 01:20:37PM -0700, da...@lang.hm wrote: > On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Jeremiah Foster wrote: > > >>Do they need help from the community > >>instead to help define, implement, and maintain this for them? > > > >I think the answer is yes. > > > > to expand on this a bit. > > it's a

Re: [stable] [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them).

2011-08-17 Thread david
On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Jeremiah Foster wrote: Do they need help from the community instead to help define, implement, and maintain this for them? I think the answer is yes. to expand on this a bit. it's a lot easier to look at changelogs and see if a -stable or -longterm update is relavent

Re: [stable] [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them).

2011-08-17 Thread Jeremiah Foster
On Aug 17, 2011, at 00:33, Greg KH wrote: > On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 09:26:24PM +0200, Jeremiah C. Foster wrote: >> I'd like to echo Ben's sentiment, particularly in the area of automotive. >> A car has to be supported with parts for at least ten years, often longer, >> and this includes the buil

Re: [stable] [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them).

2011-08-16 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 09:26:24PM +0200, Jeremiah C. Foster wrote: > I'd like to echo Ben's sentiment, particularly in the area of automotive. > A car has to be supported with parts for at least ten years, often longer, > and this includes the build system for the infotainment software. > The GE

Re: [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them).

2011-08-16 Thread Jeremiah C. Foster
On Aug 16, 2011, at 4:09, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 21:15 -0700, Greg KH wrote: > [...] >> Today: >> >> Now that 2.6.32 is over a year and a half, and the enterprise distros >> are off doing their thing with their multi-year upgrade cycles, there's >> no real need from the dis

Re: [stable] [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them).

2011-08-15 Thread Greg KH
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 03:09:02AM +0100, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > I see that you've accepted Willy Tarreau's offer to take over 2.6.32.y, > so if you could just formalise that before /. goes wild over the looming > end of all the above distributions, that would be nice. :-) The distros were doin

Re: [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them).

2011-08-15 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Sun, 2011-08-14 at 21:15 -0700, Greg KH wrote: [...] > Today: > > Now that 2.6.32 is over a year and a half, and the enterprise distros > are off doing their thing with their multi-year upgrade cycles, there's > no real need from the distros for a new longterm kernel release. But it > turns ou