Hi,
I recently upgraded most of my KDE programs to the KDE 4 versions, and
for one program I regretted it after only a few minutes. Here is a list
of the regressions in kaffeine I noticed so far:
- cannot save tracks from an audio CD as .ogg files anymore
- does not display tracks when playing
Regarding all the discussion concerning kde 4.4 I would like just to say that
I am happy with it. I can understand people liking kde3 and I suffered kde 4.0
4.1 in other distros.
However, I am happy with kde 4.4. In fact i tried to use kde 3 again some time
ago and I missed some features and re
Forwarding from my private:
On Friday May 7 2010, Matthieu Gallien wrote:
> Le vendredi 7 mai 2010 09:36:03, Luis Felipe Tabera a écrit :
>
> Hello,
>
> I would like just to add my "me too".
> The packages especially for kde 4.4 are really a pleasure to use. Many
> upstream big packages are nic
On Friday 07 May 2010 17:36:12 Sven Joachim wrote:
> Given that kaffeine
> 0.8 was a quite mature program with lots of features, I find this very
> sad.
Sven,
Please ensure you forward this upstream.
Thanks,
Mark
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On penktadienis 07 Gegužė 2010 01:59:39 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> I should have some time to pitch in and help before and after the freeze
> date. What can I do to make sure KMail doesn't need Akonadi when Squeeze
> is released? I've been told that back-porting the Akonadi/PostgreSQL
On 2010-05-07 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Can other KDE users please triage these dataloss bugs in Korganizer in KDE
> 4.4:
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172464
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226394
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228674
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?i
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Mike Bird:
> On Thu May 6 2010 10:24:08 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > > Even with perfect packaging KDE SC 4 is slow and unreliable,
> >
> > Slow? Can you elaborate? I can help with that.
> >
> > Unreliable? In what way?
>
> Are you aware that KDE PIM developers notice
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> > We've had more than two years of being told "KDE SC 4 is good
> > enough".
> >
> >
> >
> > It is not.
>
> It is good enough for me. But, I can see how the lack of items like
> Quanta, Amarok, and K3B (to name a few) cause issues for
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Richard Hartmann:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 19:54, Mike Bird wrote:
> > Are you aware that KDE PIM developers noticed that the percentage of
> > KMail users on KDE-PIM's own mailing list has dropped below 50%?
> > Even KDE developers are fed up with KDE unreliabil
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> On Thursday 06 May 2010 04:49:08 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> > > On Wednesday 05 May 2010 17:58:09 Modestas Vainius wrote:
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > On ketvirtadienis 06 G
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> On Thursday 06 May 2010 04:59:35 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> > > Heck, just stop kmail from migrating. Korganizer and KAddressBook
> > > have required Akonadi since 4.2 or ear
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Modestas Vainius:
> Hello,
>
> On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 23:48:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
[...]
> > > YOU assume that your truth is an ultimate one.
> >
> > Not really. I made objective statement about KMail based on
> > observable facts. I also vo
Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> Reverting to KDEPIM 4.3 is an option, as is shipping an Akonadi that
> doesn't require MySQL. I know KDEPIM 4.3 works in a mostly KDE SC
> 4.4 environment (that's my current setup). I'll bet that
> pre-Akonadi-integration KMail could work
Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010 schrieb Modestas Vainius:
> Hello,
Hello Modestas,
> On penktadienis 07 Gegužė 2010 01:59:39 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > I should have some time to pitch in and help before and after the
> > freeze date. What can I do to make sure KMail doesn't need Akonadi
> > when S
On 2010-05-07, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Akonadi. But I thought SQLite would not be suitable for Akonadi. Did=20
> change it seems.
it changed a bit, with akonadi people writing a new sqlite sql driver
for qtsql.
But it did require significant work to make this possible.
>
>> 1. http://svn.deb
Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010, 08:00:05 schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> Can other KDE users please triage these dataloss bugs in Korganizer in KDE
> 4.4:
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172464
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226394
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228674
> https://bugs.k
On 2010-05-07 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Can other KDE users please triage these dataloss bugs in Korganizer in KDE
> 4.4:
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172464
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226394
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228674
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?i
On 7 May 2010 14:26, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> On 2010-05-07 Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> Can other KDE users please triage these dataloss bugs in Korganizer in KDE
>> 4.4:
>>
>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172464
>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226394
>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug
I am avaluating KDE 4.4 as I updated this main desktop machine last
night. So far, so good. As I was getting some weird behavior for the
past several weeks so I moved ~/.kde out of the way after the upgrade
and before starting KDE 4.4. So far, so good.
I am still annoyed by the lack of a native
>> I was not able to reproduce the bug and added that to the bug report.
>>
>
> Thanks, that's important to know too.
>
Actually, I was able to reproduce it.
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Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010, 08:00:05 schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> Can other KDE users please triage these dataloss bugs in Korganizer in KDE
> 4.4:
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172464
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226394
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228674
> https://bugs.k
On Friday 07 May 2010, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> Device Notifier, while much improved, still lacks a way to simply mount
> removable media without having to run Dolphin
click device notifier plasmoid, ups pops the list with devices present,
mouseover device you want to mount, click the icon on the
On 7 May 2010 14:39, Ferdinand Thommes wrote:
>
> could not reproduce #228674
> commented in the bugreport
>
>
> #236658 confirmed and reported
>
Thanks, Ferdinand! Unconfirms are just as important as confirms.
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On 6 May 2010 23:12, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Thu May 6 2010 12:02:05 Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> Do you customarily read the complete email headers of those whom
>> with which you correspond?
>
> Email headers are not relevant to most discussions, therefore no.
>
> My point is that many KDE developers and
On 6 May 2010 23:15, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 18:14, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
>> System Settings -> Input and Output
>> RightClick -> New -> Global Shortcut -> Command
>
> It's called "Input Actions".
> But yes, this works. Still, the current way things are done are
> less tha
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 01:12:31PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> My point is that many KDE developers and packagers do not use KDE
> like real-world users, and therefore do not appreciate the concerns
> of real-world KDE users.
>
Of course no, they write KDE while they use GNOME
Real-world users as s
On Fri May 7 2010 08:25:28 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> It is for me, not for you. But you can change that. Just let me know
> what is wrong, I'll file the bugs for you.
A generous offer, Dotan, but I doubt that new KDE bug fixes
will make it into Squeeze. My problem is what desktop and
applications will
On Friday 07 May 2010 05:42:55 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> > On Thursday 06 May 2010 04:59:35 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> > > > Heck, just stop kmail from migrating. Korganiz
On 2010-05-06, Mike Bird wrote:
> My point is that many KDE developers and packagers do not use KDE
> like real-world users, and therefore do not appreciate the concerns
> of real-world KDE users.
My current open applications on a normal work day:
kontact (running kmail and akregator)
konqueror (
On Friday 07 May 2010 04:39:00 Modestas Vainius wrote:
> Initial akonadi trunk packaging is at [1]. I have been using it with SQLite
> for over a month now. Yet I don't use akonadi features extensively (not
> even addressbook or korganizer) so I can't tell much about quality of the
> code. But I
On Friday 07 May 2010 01:19:33 Michael Thaler wrote:
> IHMO, the few people that still want to use KDE 3.5 have three options:
> - help the KDE developers to implement the functionality that was in KDE
> 3.5, but is still missing from KDE 4
> - switch to another desktop like Gnome, XFCE or LXDE th
On Thursday 06 May 2010 19:16:29 Curt Howland wrote:
> What I do not appreciate is that the attitude has been not "we have to
> do this", but "we're doing it, must suck to be you."
I'm pretty sure I haven't seen any of the Qt/KDE team be quite so asympathetic
and snipish. I may not always agree
On Friday 07 May 2010 05:29:21 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Debian carries Amarok and K3b in a KDE 4 version - I am using both. And
> then there is kdevelop and kdevelop-php.
>
> Amarok 2 is playing music on my Amarok ThinkPad T23 above the hi-fi right
> now. And I burned quite some stuff with K3b
On Friday 07 May 2010 10:56:05 Ana Guerrero wrote:
> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 01:12:31PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> > My point is that many KDE developers and packagers do not use KDE
> > like real-world users, and therefore do not appreciate the concerns
> > of real-world KDE users.
>
> Of course n
On 7 May 2010 19:54, Lisi wrote:
>> That boils down to "it's on by default". Just go turn them off.
>
> But I have to _look_ at them to turn them off. In KDE 3 I do not. I can turn
> them off without ever having to see them.
>
Yes, you do have to look at them once.
>> And
>
>> the defaults do n
On Friday 07 May 2010 05:53:57 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> > Reverting to KDEPIM 4.3 is an option, as is shipping an Akonadi that
> > doesn't require MySQL. I know KDEPIM 4.3 works in a mostly KDE SC
> > 4.4 environment (that's my current s
* On 2010 07 May 07:17 -0500, cobaco wrote:
> On Friday 07 May 2010, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > Device Notifier, while much improved, still lacks a way to simply mount
> > removable media without having to run Dolphin
>
> click device notifier plasmoid, ups pops the list with devices present,
> mo
Hi Nate,
Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010 schrieb Nate Bargmann:
> I also
> think that setting a different wallpaper for each desktop could be more
> intuitive than having to enable desktop activities in the Settings
> Manager, then zoom out with the cashew, then set the wallpaper via
> right-click menu fr
Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> On Friday 07 May 2010 05:29:21 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Debian carries Amarok and K3b in a KDE 4 version - I am using both.
> > And then there is kdevelop and kdevelop-php.
> >
> > Amarok 2 is playing music on my Amarok ThinkPad T23 abo
Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010 schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> >> > 4. Alt+F1 does not bring up the menu.
> >>
> >> It's Alt-F5 for the Kmenu. Has been since KDE 3 I think.
> >
> > No, it's alt+F1 in KDE 3.5.x. Alt+F5, which I also like and use a
> > lot, brings up a list of running windows.
>
> Thanks, I'm a go
Am Freitag 07 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> On Friday 07 May 2010 05:42:55 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> > > On Thursday 06 May 2010 04:59:35 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > > Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smi
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> > However, whether to ship akonadi trunk/beta/final of the next version
> > is another question which is still open. In my opinion, Akonadi
> > itself is
> >
> > pretty mature so it might be doable.
>
> I didn't complain well. This is t
Heyho!
Yes, KDE 4 is not was KDE 3 was. It is different. This can be discussed
and there probably is no "right" answer.
But my impression is that this list is about packaging KDE for Debian and
not about developing Debian. There are KDE mailing lists for discussions
about KDE.
I'm mostly l
On Friday 07 May 2010 20.39:19 Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> But my impression is that this list is about packaging KDE for Debian
> and not about developing Debian.
... KDE.
Obviously.
Grr.
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On Friday 07 May 2010 13:39:19 Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> So my kmail still doesn't have sane "Ignore thread" behaviour.
Right-click message -> "Mark Thread" -> "Ignore Thread" doesn't work for you?
Or is that not "sane" behavior? I don't really use that feature.
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A couple of ideas that might not be very clear:
Suggestions if you still want to use KDE 3.5
- keep using Lenny forever
- learn how to build it, install it e.g. in /opt/kde and learn how to update it
every time there is a new non-compatible library in
On Fri May 7 2010 12:32:29 Ana Guerrero wrote:
> Suggestions if you still want to use KDE 3.5
>
(snip)
> - learn how to build it, install it e.g. in /opt/kde and learn how to
> update it every time there is a new non-compatible library in your system
Us
Hello,
On penktadienis 07 Gegužė 2010 21:39:19 Adrian von Bidder wrote:
> Heyho!
>
> Yes, KDE 4 is not was KDE 3 was. It is different. This can be discussed
> and there probably is no "right" answer.
>
> But my impression is that this list is about packaging KDE for Debian and
> not about deve
On 2010-05-07, Modestas Vainius wrote:
> On penktadienis 07 Gegu=C5=BE=C4=97 2010 21:39:19 Adrian von Bidder wrote:
>> (And: my C++ skills suck and I can't devote as much time as I wished to i=
> t.
>> So my kmail still doesn't have sane "Ignore thread" behaviour. Which is
>> probably one of the
> Can other KDE users please triage these dataloss bugs in Korganizer in KDE
> 4.4:
>
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172464
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226394
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228674
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236563
> https://bugs.kde.org/
Hello,
On penktadienis 07 Gegužė 2010 20:02:08 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > On penktadienis 07 Gegužė 2010 01:59:39 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > > I think that KMail requiring MySQL to function in Debian stable is a
> > > problem. I request that the Qt/KDE packaging team take steps to en
On Saturday 08 May 2010 05:52:09 Mike Bird wrote:
> Would it be possible to continue
> rebuilding and shipping KDE 3.5, perhaps in "contrib",
> perhaps with a huge "no security updates" disclaimer?
People in Debian will work on what they want too, no more, no less.
If you want a KDE3.5 team then
On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 12:52:09PM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> Debian ships all sorts of software, including even
> non-free software. Would it be possible to continue
> rebuilding and shipping KDE 3.5, perhaps in "contrib",
> perhaps with a huge "no security updates" disclaimer?
Hi Mike. You've i
Hi Everyone,
In Lenny I use Twinkle to use my SIP phone account.
But in Squeeze I'd like to use another application in the place of Twinkle.
Preferentially a software better integrated to the KDE 4.x/Qt 4.x desktop
which is what I use.
Any alternative? Please give me suggestions.
Thank you
serr
On Saturday 08 May 2010 09:52:24 Leonardo Meira wrote:
> In Lenny I use Twinkle to use my SIP phone account.
> But in Squeeze I'd like to use another application in the place of Twinkle.
> Preferentially a software better integrated to the KDE 4.x/Qt 4.x desktop
> which is what I use.
>
> Any alte
2010/5/8 Leonardo Meira :
> Hi Everyone,
>
> In Lenny I use Twinkle to use my SIP phone account.
> But in Squeeze I'd like to use another application in the place of Twinkle.
> Preferentially a software better integrated to the KDE 4.x/Qt 4.x desktop
> which is what I use.
>
> Any alternative? Plea
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