Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 22:12, Mike Bird wrote: > The whole semantic desktop idea is a bad joke in the real MULTI-USER > world.  If semantics are to have any value they must evolve on the > server from all the members of the workgroup, not an isolated user. Semantics can be pushed from above or b

Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2010-05-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 06 May 2010 14:33:40 Modestas Vainius wrote: > On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 02:13:50 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > Debian packagers don't have that much time to spend on packaging (they > > > are volunteers after all), and hardly they can do decisions about which > > > particu

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 23:12:31 Mike Bird wrote: > On Thu May 6 2010 12:02:05 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Do you customarily read the complete email headers of those whom > > with which you correspond? > > Email headers are not relevant to most discussions, therefore no. > > My point

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Jueves, 6 de Mayo de 2010, Dotan Cohen escribió: > No. Do you customarily read the complete email headers of those whom > with which you correspond? There is a hidden config variable that can make KMail display the User-Agent, X-Mailer, etc. kwriteconfig --file /path/to/kmailrc --group Reader

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 06 May 2010 15:12:31 Mike Bird wrote: > On Thu May 6 2010 12:02:05 Dotan Cohen wrote: > > Do you customarily read the complete email headers of those whom > > with which you correspond? > > Email headers are not relevant to most discussions, therefore no. > > My point is that many KDE

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 06 May 09:45 -0500, Facundo Aguilera wrote: > El Jueves 06 Mayo 2010 10:22:09 Nate Bargmann escribi?: > > > > > I'm tired of typing this time and again: > > > > No speaker beep in Konsole--dev says, "Too bad." > > > > Konsole -> settings -> notifications -> bell in current session -

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Mark Purcell
On Friday 07 May 2010 03:26:34 Curt Howland wrote: > There are lots of people who are interested in having KDE3 > continue, as opposed to being "forced to upgrade" to This is what I don't understand about this conservation. This is free software, nobody is forced to do anything. You are free to

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Facundo Aguilera
El Jueves 06 Mayo 2010 18:01:42 Nate Bargmann escribió: > * On 2010 06 May 09:45 -0500, Facundo Aguilera wrote: > > El Jueves 06 Mayo 2010 10:22:09 Nate Bargmann escribi?: > > > I'm tired of typing this time and again: > > > > > > No speaker beep in Konsole--dev says, "Too bad." > > > > Konsole

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 23:08, Mark Purcell wrote: > This is free software, nobody is forced to do anything. Not 100% true. A plain user who wants to keep on using KDE 3 will not be able to do so forever. A year or two are certainly possible even though people will need a different browser for se

Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2010-05-06 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 06 May 08:33 -0500, Didier 'OdyX' Raboud wrote: > Nate Bargmann wrote: > > > Now that my system is poised to update to KDE 4.4, I think this > > is where I'll get off the train and let KDE go where it wants and I > > shall go elsewhere. > > > > Thanks for the fish. > > > > - Nate >> >

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Bird
On Thu May 6 2010 14:08:42 Mark Purcell wrote: > This is free software, nobody is forced to do anything. > > You are free to upgrade to KDE4, you are free to keep your system running > with KDE3 for as long as you want. Hey I still have one system running > KDE2 for stability reasons, its a router

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2010 06 May 16:27 -0500, Facundo Aguilera wrote: > El Jueves 06 Mayo 2010 18:01:42 Nate Bargmann escribió: > > * On 2010 06 May 09:45 -0500, Facundo Aguilera wrote: > > > El Jueves 06 Mayo 2010 10:22:09 Nate Bargmann escribi?: > > > > I'm tired of typing this time and again: > > > > > > > >

Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2010-05-06 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 23:48:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > But whether > > upstream software meets users' needs is out of Debian scope. > > There's a lot to consider, since Debian needs upstream's help in addressing > bugs throughout the lifetime of stable, and that's ea

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Kevin Krammer
On Thursday, 2010-05-06, Alejandro Exojo wrote: > El Jueves, 6 de Mayo de 2010, Dotan Cohen escribió: > > No. Do you customarily read the complete email headers of those whom > > with which you correspond? > > There is a hidden config variable that can make KMail display the > User-Agent, X-Maile

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2010-05-06, Mike Bird wrote: > Are we - KDE's non-DD non-DM end users - free to include KDE 3.5 > in Debian Squeeze? Why not keep KDE SC 4 in experimental where > it belongs for a few more years? Please don't feed the troll. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debia

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Frederik Schwarzer
[Mike Bird - Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 23:37:43] > On Thu May 6 2010 14:08:42 Mark Purcell wrote: > > This is free software, nobody is forced to do anything. > > > > You are free to upgrade to KDE4, you are free to keep your system running > > with KDE3 for as long as you want. Hey I still have one

Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2010-05-06 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 06 May 2010 16:44:26 you wrote: > On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 23:48:43 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > But whether > > > upstream software meets users' needs is out of Debian scope. > > > > There's a lot to consider, since Debian needs upstream's help in > > addressing bugs t

Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Bird
On Thu May 6 2010 15:59:39 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > I think that KMail requiring MySQL to function in Debian stable is a > problem. I request that the Qt/KDE packaging team take steps to ensure that > Debian stable users are not stranded with that situation for the lifetime > of stable. I'm

Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2010-05-06 Thread Diederik de Haas
On 2010-05-07 Mike Bird wrote: > I'm curious. When I install MySQL on a Lenny server it thereafter > automatically starts the global /var/lib/mysql MySQL server at boot time. > > I thought Akonadi was intended to use a private MySQL server process > running in each users' home directory and start

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Curt Howland
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 06 May 2010, Mike Bird was heard to say: > Debian is the sole remaining major > distro that cared enough for its users to ship KDE 3.5. When Lenny was released, KDE4 was just plain broken. Since then, it has matured such that other distri

Re: KDE 4.4.3 in unstable

2010-05-06 Thread Mike Bird
On Thu May 6 2010 17:08:48 Diederik de Haas wrote: > On 2010-05-07 Mike Bird wrote: > > Does installing KDE cause a global /var/lib/mysql MySQL server to run on > > each workstation, even when nobody is logged in? > > Not anymore, but it used to be that case. > Since http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/

Dataloss bugs in Korganizer

2010-05-06 Thread Dotan Cohen
Can other KDE users please triage these dataloss bugs in Korganizer in KDE 4.4: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172464 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=226394 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=228674 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=236563 https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread Michael Thaler
Hi, > There will be at least as many people that will complain > about not shipping KDE 4 if you were the one to decide. Indeed. I used KDE 1, KDE 2, KDE 3 and now I am a very happy KDE 4 user which is in my opinion the best KDE so far. I want to thank the Debian KDE Team for doing such a great

Re: Kde 3.5 ...

2010-05-06 Thread cobaco
On Thursday 06 May 2010, Richard Hartmann wrote: > On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 23:08, Mark Purcell wrote: > > This is free software, nobody is forced to do anything. > > Not 100% true. A plain user who wants to keep on using KDE 3 > will not be able to do so forever. A year or two are certainly possib

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