On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
> Hello!
>
> First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best.
>
> I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using
> the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny.
>
> Maybe
2010/5/6 Jorge Gonçalves :
> Hello!
>
> First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best.
>
> I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using
> the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny.
>
> Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the package
I don't get what you're trying to accomplish.
On 2010-05-05 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In 4.4, kmail depends on mysql-server in order to send mail. (kmail ->
> Akonadi -> mysql-server).
So you don't like the dependency to Akonadi? Too bad. As can be read on many
places, Akonadi is
there t
On Wed, May 05, 2010 at 06:13:50PM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>
> These responses are quite frustrating. I read Ana's post as "please make
> sure
> KDE 4.4 is ready for stable". My post was "KDE 4.4 is inappropriate for
> stable". All the replies have been "too bad, we are going to
On Thursday 06 May 2010 1:00:22 am Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
> Furthermore, I file bug reports and feature requests for KDE. If you
> let me know what problems you are having with KDE 4.4, I will gladly
> file issues. KDE 4.0 and 4.1 were a mess, but KDE 4.2 and 4.3 were
> very usable. So far as I know
Hi!
JFYI as this might (partly) be packaging related.
I found the following bugs with Akonadi since I upgraded to KDE 4.4.3
happening often, possibly always when I start Kontact for the first time
after starting a KDE session. On further starts of Kontact it works as
expected:
Bug 236535 -
[Jorge Gonçalves - Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 08:17:43]
Hi,
> I really feel sorry that KDE 3 series is no more being developed, and
> when the day cames that I no longer will be able to use KDE 3, I will
> switch to Apple or even Windows, but NEVER to kde4 or Gnome!
> (and I feel many users out ther
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Mike Bird:
> On Wed May 5 2010 15:53:05 Frederik Schwarzer wrote:
> > How does having a kdepim that depends on mysql declare kde as
> > "broken"? Sure, many oppose to that dependency, but it works,
> > doesn't it?
>
> (1) It reportedly breaks home directories stor
[Martin Steigerwald - Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 11:34:57]
>
> Hi!
>
> JFYI as this might (partly) be packaging related.
>
> I found the following bugs with Akonadi since I upgraded to KDE 4.4.3
> happening often, possibly always when I start Kontact for the first time
> after starting a KDE sess
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> On Wednesday 05 May 2010 17:58:09 Modestas Vainius wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 01:54:06 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
wrote:
> > > I'm still using kmail/kontact/etc. (basically kdepim) from 4.3
> > > since I have
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Kevin Krammer:
> On Thursday, 2010-05-06, Sune Vuorela wrote:
> > On 2010-05-05, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > > I also have a history with MySQL and I *do* *not* *trust* it with
> > > my data. = UPS or not.
> >
> > Then luckily you don't have to. The only da
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> Heck, just stop kmail from migrating. Korganizer and KAddressBook
> have required Akonadi since 4.2 or earlier.
Again, AFAIK, kmail does not use Akonadi in KDE 4.4, it might in KDE 4.5.
Its KAddressBook that uses Akonadi by default now
On 2010-05-06 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Bug 236538 - often does not find resource agents on first start of Kontact
> https://bugs.kde.org/236538
>
> Bug 236539 - dbus session bus not available on first start of Kontact -
> race condition?
> https://bugs.kde.org/236539
I can confirm both of t
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Frederik Schwarzer:
> [Martin Steigerwald - Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 11:34:57]
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > JFYI as this might (partly) be packaging related.
> >
> > I found the following bugs with Akonadi since I upgraded to KDE 4.4.3
> > happening often, possibly always wh
Hi,
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 11:39:04AM +0200, Frederik Schwarzer wrote:
> Why is KDE 4 for you no option? Does it not work for you? Or do you just
> not like the concepts? The KDE developers are open for suggestions, as
> long as these are not "give me kicker back" or alike.
Konsole 4's Profile h
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Diederik de Haas:
> On 2010-05-06 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Bug 236538 - often does not find resource agents on first start of
> > Kontact https://bugs.kde.org/236538
> >
> > Bug 236539 - dbus session bus not available on first start of
> > Kontact - race co
On 2010-05-06 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > Possible 'workaround' can be found at:
> > http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_4.4/Troubleshooting
> >
> > ie wrt 236538: close Kontact. Start KAddressBook standalone. Quit
> > KAddressBook. Start Kontact.
>
> Where?
3.8 I can't see any details in my Addre
On 05/06/2010 06:10 AM, Marc Haber wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 11:39:04AM +0200, Frederik Schwarzer wrote:
Why is KDE 4 for you no option? Does it not work for you? Or do you just
not like the concepts? The KDE developers are open for suggestions, as
long as these are not "give me ki
Hi,
since this seems to be the time to complain about KDE, I'd like to ask for
help on an old issue: kded4 prevent the plasma weather applets from working.
When I login to my KDE session the weather applets fail to retrieve any data.
I've confirmed with Wireshark/TCPdump that there is no network
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Diederik de Haas:
> On 2010-05-06 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > > Possible 'workaround' can be found at:
> > > http://userbase.kde.org/Akonadi_4.4/Troubleshooting
> > >
> > > ie wrt 236538: close Kontact. Start KAddressBook standalone. Quit
> > > KAddressBook. Sta
Am Donnerstag, 6. Mai 2010, 12:14:41 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> My current work-around is just to close Kontact completely again and start
> it another time. This will work for now.
The same here. The same problems, the same "work-around" and the same "I don't
wan't workarounds but bug fixes".
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Dominik Schulz:
> Hi,
Hi Dominik,
> since this seems to be the time to complain about KDE, I'd like to ask
Although I tend to get into complain mode as well I think we should try to
stay as constructive as possible. ;) Its sometimes not easy tough, when
things
> Konsole 4's Profile handling is utterly broken. There are multiple
> bugs open upstream about this, none of which has been commented on by
> the developers. I don't see any interest of upstream in fixing these
> issues.
>
Thanks, Marc. What is Profile handling? If you paste the bug numbers I
wil
* On 2010 06 May 02:13 -0500, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> I don't get what you're trying to accomplish.
>
> On 2010-05-05 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > In 4.4, kmail depends on mysql-server in order to send mail. (kmail ->
> > Akonadi -> mysql-server).
>
> So you don't like the dependency to A
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On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
> > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5
> > could remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to
On 2010-05-06, Curt Howland wrote:
>
> On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
>> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
>> > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5
>> > could remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4
>> No, there is not sane way and there is nobody interested on it.
>
> While the former is certainly true, the latter is demonstrably false.
>
Agreed, there is huge demand for KDE 3, even still. I think that Ana
meant that there are no devs interested in it.
> KDE3 was excellent. I do not like K
* On 2010 06 May 01:35 -0500, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
> Hello!
>
> First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best.
>
> I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using
> the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny.
Others have probably p
[Nate Bargmann - Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 13:28:23]
> * On 2010 06 May 02:13 -0500, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> > I don't get what you're trying to accomplish.
> >
> > On 2010-05-05 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > > In 4.4, kmail depends on mysql-server in order to send mail. (kmail ->
> > > Akonad
I still have both operating. My KDE3.5 was locally compiled but I still have
to do some footwork in /etc/profiles and the startkde scripts to set paths
appropriately. But both work no sweat.
So the backports are an option and since Ubuntu stores its KDE libraries
differently than "pure" Debian,
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On Thursday 06 May 2010, Sune Vuorela was heard to say:
> On 2010-05-06, Curt Howland wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
> >> No, there is not sane way and there is nobody interested on it.
> >
> > While the former is c
>> Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 could
>> remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4.
>
> That ship has sailed and it isn't coming back. KDE 3.5 is considered
> dead. Why some motivated person has not forked it yet has escaped me.
>
Not exactly fork
Am Donnerstag, 6. Mai 2010, 12:51:10 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> I just gave in to use network manager. I think there is a bug report as
> well. Yes, here:
> https://bugs.kde.org/232469
Thanks for that pointer! That's a solution - at least for me.
$> aptitude remove network-manager
-> It works
> However, while I agree KDE4 has taken a newer direction and is slower, one can
> configure it to work more like the old favorite. Your desktop and be the
> desktop folder "containment" and then work from there.
>
KDE 4.4 is lighter than KDE 3.5 was, even with desktop effects
enabled. The only ti
* On 2010 06 May 07:27 -0500, Frederik Schwarzer wrote:
> [Nate Bargmann - Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 13:28:23]
> > * On 2010 06 May 02:13 -0500, Diederik de Haas wrote:
> > > I don't get what you're trying to accomplish.
> > >
> > > On 2010-05-05 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > > > In 4.4, kmail d
* On 2010 06 May 08:03 -0500, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> >> Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 could
> >> remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4.
> >
> > That ship has sailed and it isn't coming back. ??KDE 3.5 is considered
> > dead. ??Why some motivated per
Nate Bargmann wrote:
> Now that my system is poised to update to KDE 4.4, I think this
> is where I'll get off the train and let KDE go where it wants and I
> shall go elsewhere.
>
> Thanks for the fish.
>
> - Nate >>
Free software is all about freedom:
- developers are free to assign their t
Curt Howland wrote:
> On Thursday 06 May 2010, Sune Vuorela was heard to say:
>>
>> Where is your code?
>>
>> I will repeat "No one is interested in doing it".
>
> That is not what you said the first time.
>
> Curt-
So, let me ask the above question again: where is your code ?
Are you intereste
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On Thursday 06 May 2010, Dotan Cohen was heard to say:
> Agreed, there is huge demand for KDE 3, even still. I think that
> Ana meant that there are no devs interested in it.
That does indeed appear to be the case, which is one reason I stopped
listi
On 2010-05-06 Nate Bargmann wrote:
> > So you don't like the dependency to Akonadi? Too bad.
>
> Regardless the rationale, this seems to be an attitude that has become
> very pervasive among KDE developers with the advent of KDE4 and it has
> me looking seriously at the alternatives. I no longer
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> So, let me ask the above question again: where is your code ?
I was thinking about getting all obsequious and fawning at the High
Priests of Development, to verbally bow in thanks for the scraps of
code t
Am Donnerstag, 6. Mai 2010 schrieb Nate Bargmann:
> Device Notifier is a poor design and not easily changed to simply allow
> mounting so removable medium rather than starting Dolphin each time.
FWIW, in 4.4.x it is possible to mount directly from the popup without
starting dolphin. And you even
El Jueves, 6 de Mayo de 2010, Curt Howland escribió:
> Thank you, I appreciate that. Really, I do. Unfortunately, my problems
> with KDE4 are not bugs, they're systematic. I liked having my
> removable devices show up as desktop icons, for instance, and that
> feature is just plain gone.
I miss th
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Sune Vuorela:
> On 2010-05-06, Curt Howland wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
> >> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
> >> > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5
> >> > coul
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Dominik Schulz:
> Am Donnerstag, 6. Mai 2010, 12:51:10 schrieb Martin Steigerwald:
> > I just gave in to use network manager. I think there is a bug report
> > as well. Yes, here:
> > https://bugs.kde.org/232469
>
> Thanks for that pointer! That's a solution - at
El Jueves 06 Mayo 2010 10:22:09 Nate Bargmann escribió:
>
> I'm tired of typing this time and again:
>
> No speaker beep in Konsole--dev says, "Too bad."
>
Konsole -> settings -> notifications -> bell in current session -> run "beep"
(aptitude install beep)
Is this what you want?
--
To UN
Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Dotan Cohen:
> > However, while I agree KDE4 has taken a newer direction and is
> > slower, one can configure it to work more like the old favorite.
> > Your desktop and be the desktop folder "containment" and then work
> > from there.
>
> KDE 4.4 is lighter than
>> Please, let me know what KDE 4 is missing for you. KDE 4.4 has only a
>> handful of regressions from KDE 3.5.10, and they are not dealbreakers.
>> Some of those are addressed in KDE 4.5.
>
> I'm tired of typing this time and again:
>
> No speaker beep in Konsole--dev says, "Too bad."
>
That mig
>> If you could elaborate on that, I might be able to get some things
>> fixed. Do you simply "not like" or are you having problems?
>
> Thank you, I appreciate that. Really, I do. Unfortunately, my problems
> with KDE4 are not bugs, they're systematic.
That's fine, that's exactly what I'm interes
On 2010-05-06, Alejandro Exojo wrote:
> El Jueves, 6 de Mayo de 2010, Curt Howland escribió:
>> Thank you, I appreciate that. Really, I do. Unfortunately, my problems
>> with KDE4 are not bugs, they're systematic. I liked having my
>> removable devices show up as desktop icons, for instance, and t
> Do you know when 4.5 will be out and stable? The guys from kde seem to drop
> really stable in their x.5 branches :-)
>
August, I think.
> I am also not planning moving to kde4 unless I'm sure it's working for me. I
> have a lot of custom software and I'm not sure it's working. I'll have to
> t
> I miss the media:/ kioslave. Does somebody know if it was gone because nobody
> ported it, or by design?
>
The bluetooth kioslave has a patch, but nobody has reviewed it:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193241
The Device Notifier plasmoid and Places menu take care of all other media.
> I
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 13:12, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> The eye-candy in KDE 4 was just a consequence of using Qt4.
And of making Plasma core technology. Going so far that for several
minor releases, there was no sane way to display files on your
desktop. Granted, I don't use that anyway, this is jus
>> KDE 4.4 is lighter than KDE 3.5 was, even with desktop effects
>> enabled. The only time you will see it appear that KDE 4 is "heavy" is
>> if you are loading the Qt3 libraries in addition to the Qt4 libraries,
>> for instance by using KDE3 applications. I understand that some people
>> still ne
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 14:59, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Please, let me know what KDE 4 is missing for you. KDE 4.4 has only a
> handful of regressions from KDE 3.5.10, and they are not dealbreakers.
> Some of those are addressed in KDE 4.5.
Not missing as such, but there is one thing which annoys me
El Miércoles 05 Mayo 2010 17:24:49 Ana Guerrero escribió:
> Hi,
>
> Given no everybody reads planet Debian, here goes a copy of
> http://ekaia.org/blog/2010/05/05/kde-443-in-unstable/
>
>
> Following Qt 4.6.2, uploaded a couple of weeks ago, KDE 4.4.3, has finally
> found its way to unstable in
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 15:22, Nate Bargmann wrote:
> Other things that just don't seem inuitive *for me* that were in KDE
> 3.5.
I dare anyone to create a new application hotkey without using google ;)
Why this feature can not be accessed from System Settings directly
is beyond me. And I mean _c
El Jueves 06 Mayo 2010 12:50:52 Facundo Aguilera
escribió:
>
> Just for add a good comment, I'm testing 4.4.3 and it working very good!!
> Thanks!!
>
>
> The only problem I'm having is that kmail is not searching in the full
> address list when writing a new message. But i can drag from kaddre
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 17:28, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> I'm having the feeling that many users which are unhappy with KDE 4.X are
>> just
>> a feature or two away of accepting it.
>>
>
> That sounds like a good assessment.
Agreed.
Richard
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> On a Phenom X2 with 4 GiB RAM and a pretty new GFX card whose name
> I don't remember, I get random hangs while doing nothing more than light
> surfing with some minimal background activity.
What browser? Is it only on specific sites? Flash? Heavy Javascript or
even Java? What does top show?
Ca
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 17:33, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Actually, I personally have not. However, this was actually the design
> goal of Qt4 and many users have tested and reported lower memory usage
> in KDE 4 compared to KDE 3. I don't know about CPU, though.
For KDE 2 -> 3, this was true. I had 12
> I dare anyone to create a new application hotkey without using google ;)
> Why this feature can not be accessed from System Settings directly
> is beyond me. And I mean _creating_, not editing existing ones.
>
My system is in Hebrew, so this is translated:
System Settings -> Keyboard and Mouse
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 18:08, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> What browser?
Konqui. Is there any other browser on earth? ;)
And yes, this is true for both KHTML & Webkit.
> Is it only on specific sites?
While some sites seem to trigger it more often, this happens with all
sites.
> Flash?
Not if I can
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 18:14, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> It works!
I will give this way a try at home. Promise :)
Richard
PS: If I forget, please nag.
PPS: Thanks for caring about these issues so much.
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On 6 May 2010 19:09, Richard Hartmann wrote:
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 17:33, Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
>> Actually, I personally have not. However, this was actually the design
>> goal of Qt4 and many users have tested and reported lower memory usage
>> in KDE 4 compared to KDE 3. I don't know about C
>> What browser?
>
> Konqui. Is there any other browser on earth? ;)
> And yes, this is true for both KHTML & Webkit.
>
Can you try with rekonq or even Firefox? Firefox is a real memory pig.
>> What does top show?
>
> Nothing I could see as the system is locked up during that time.
>
Try runnin
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 18:18, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Maybe you were / are still using Qt3 applications? There is nothing
> wrong with that, but it will be memory-heavy.
No; definitely not.
> So we agree: the more software on the system, the faster it runs! I'm
> installing Gimp now...
_Or_ KDE
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 18:22, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Can you try with rekonq or even Firefox? Firefox is a real memory pig.
Iceweasel does not have these issues, but then I almost never use it
so the test pool is a _lot_ smaller.
Never tried rekonq, I can do so tonight.
> Try running "top > top.
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 07:41:23AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
> On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
> > On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
> > > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5
> > > could remain installed, and not b
On Wed May 5 2010 23:17:43 Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
> I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using
> the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny.
Debian KDE team,
My users and I thank you from the bottom of our hearts for
maintaining KDE 3.5 in Lenny.
My us
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 04:39:02PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Sune Vuorela:
> > On 2010-05-06, Curt Howland wrote:
> > > On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
> > >> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
> > >>
On 2010-05-06, Mike Bird wrote:
> My users and I pray that you keep KDE 3.5 (or Trinity) in Squeeze.
Won't happen. sorry. I guess you will have as much success with this as
you did for fedora ...
I won't be blocking anyone trying to work on 3.5, but I do not plan to
spend a minute on it myself.
> Even with perfect packaging KDE SC 4 is slow and unreliable,
Slow? Can you elaborate? I can help with that.
Unreliable? In what way?
> gimmick-rich but feature-poor.
What feature is missing for you? I can help with that.
> KDE SC 4 probably has no future and
> certainly has no place in Deb
On 2010-05-06, Dominik Schulz wrote:
> I've confirmed with Wireshark/TCPdump that there is no network traffic at t=
> hat=20
> time. As soon as I kill kded4 the weather applets startk working immedeatel=
> y.=20
> Is there are another workaround than killing kded4 (since that messes up so=
> me=20
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On Thursday 06 May 2010 it was so written:
> On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 07:41:23AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
> > > On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
> > > > Maybe
On Thursday 06 May 2010 04:49:08 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> > On Wednesday 05 May 2010 17:58:09 Modestas Vainius wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 01:54:06 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
> > > wrote:
> > > > I'm sti
On Thursday 06 May 2010 04:59:35 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 06 Mai 2010 schrieb Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.:
> > Heck, just stop kmail from migrating. Korganizer and KAddressBook
> > have required Akonadi since 4.2 or earlier.
>
> Again, AFAIK, kmail does not use Akonadi in KDE 4.4.
H
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 01:26:34PM -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
> On Thursday 06 May 2010 it was so written:
> > On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 07:41:23AM -0400, Curt Howland wrote:
> > > On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
> > > > On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 03:17:43AM -0300, Jorge Gonçalve
On 2010-05-06 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> Not true. I installed KMail from Sid earlier this week. It refused to
> send mail by entering an infinite loop trying to connect to an Akonadi
> server that I was not running.
>
> KAddressBook and KOrganizer depend on Akonadi in KDE 4.3 and I believ
On Tuesday, 2010-05-04, David Baron wrote:
> I still have not gotten to the root of this very annoying problem.
>
> In the earliest KDE4 versions, stuff started up at the normal default nice
> of 0 (priority 20). I had a renice script to get all those akonadi daemons
> niced out of the way so kd
On Thursday 06 May 2010 02:13:06 Diederik de Haas wrote:
> I don't get what you're trying to accomplish.
>
> On 2010-05-05 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > In 4.4, kmail depends on mysql-server in order to send mail. (kmail ->
> > Akonadi -> mysql-server).
>
> So you don't like the dependency t
On Thursday 06 May 2010 19:13:46 Mike Bird wrote:
> On Wed May 5 2010 23:17:43 Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
> > I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using
> > the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny.
>
> Debian KDE team,
>
> My users and I thank you from t
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On Thursday 06 May 2010, Ana Guerrero was heard to say:
> You have demostrated nothing here =)
Very well.
Curt-
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On 6 May 2010 14:06, deloptes wrote:
> Dotan Cohen wrote:
>
>>
>> Yes, KDE 4 seems to be much better for the average Joe. But that is
>> the reason that power users suffer at the moment! A.Joe already has
>> Gnome...
>>
>>
>
> Exactly! OK, I'll look forward to test this weekend.
> Main issue for m
Hello,
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 20:40:21 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > PostgreSQL is apparently
> > capable of providing the proper features and Tobias Koenig has made
> > Akonadi working with PostgreSQL since the end of last year
> > (http://tokoe-kde.blogspot.com/2009/12/akonadi
On 2010-05-06, Cassiano Leal wrote:
> Speaking of which... Have you managed to compile TOra with oracle
> support using dpkg-buildpackage?
http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-kde-extras/2010-April/010913.html
/Sune
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On Thu May 6 2010 10:24:08 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > Even with perfect packaging KDE SC 4 is slow and unreliable,
>
> Slow? Can you elaborate? I can help with that.
>
> Unreliable? In what way?
Are you aware that KDE PIM developers noticed that the percentage of
KMail users on KDE-PIM's own mailing l
On Thu May 6 2010 10:24:03 Steven Crooks wrote:
> Please do yourself and us/others the favor and read the whole discussion so
> far and you will get a/your answer, why your prayers won't be heard.
Thank you for that excellent advice. I had of course read the whole
discussion before adding to it.
On 2010-05-06, Mike Bird wrote:
> Sune is not interested in working on KDE 3.5 but he's using slrn via
> gmane.
for maillists available via gmane, I really prefer that. I have been
using slrn for as much as possible even before kde 3.3 was uploaded to
debian.
I do use kmail for my my personal em
On Thu, May 06, 2010 at 10:54:17AM -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> I have great respect for Ana's work but even Ana is using Mutt.
>
This has nothing to do with KDE 4 or kdepim, I have been using mutt
for more than 6 years now...
Ana
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On Thursday 06 May 2010 10:50:52 Facundo Aguilera wrote:
> El Miércoles 05 Mayo 2010 17:24:49 Ana Guerrero escribió:
> > Following Qt 4.6.2, uploaded a couple of weeks ago, KDE 4.4.3, has
> > finally found its way to unstable in the last 48 hours.
>
> Just for add a good comment, I'm testing 4.4.
On 6 May 2010 20:54, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Thu May 6 2010 10:24:08 Dotan Cohen wrote:
>> > Even with perfect packaging KDE SC 4 is slow and unreliable,
>>
>> Slow? Can you elaborate? I can help with that.
>>
>> Unreliable? In what way?
>
> Are you aware that KDE PIM developers noticed that the per
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 18:24, Richard Hartmann
wrote:
> For reference, while typing this email, my total CPU load is ~12% on
> the KDE 3 box. On KDE 4, it would be around 20% -- I can get you
> better numbers at home.
great, now that I upgraded to 4.4.3, my base load is around 9%
I will continue
On Thursday 06 May 2010 01:17:43 Jorge Gonçalves wrote:
> Hello!
>
> First, thank you for the great distro that is Debian, one of the best.
>
> I would like to suggest you some way so that the users keep on using
> the good old KDE 3.5 when they migrate to the upcoming Lenny.
>
> Maybe use dummy
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 19:54, Mike Bird wrote:
> Are you aware that KDE PIM developers noticed that the percentage of
> KMail users on KDE-PIM's own mailing list has dropped below 50%? Even
> KDE developers are fed up with KDE unreliability.
If you check my user string, I am using Gmail's inter
Hello,
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 02:13:50 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > Debian packagers don't have that much time to spend on packaging (they
> > are volunteers after all), and hardly they can do decisions about which
> > particular branch is better.
> > They have to package the last o
On Thursday 06 May 2010 12:47:12 Modestas Vainius wrote:
> On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 20:40:21 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > > PostgreSQL is apparently
> > > capable of providing the proper features and Tobias Koenig has made
> > > Akonadi working with PostgreSQL since the end of last
Hello,
On ketvirtadienis 06 Gegužė 2010 20:54:17 Mike Bird wrote:
> Are you aware that KDE PIM developers noticed that the percentage of
> KMail users on KDE-PIM's own mailing list has dropped below 50%? Even
> KDE developers are fed up with KDE unreliability.
So what? People moved on. You can d
On Thu May 6 2010 12:02:05 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> Do you customarily read the complete email headers of those whom
> with which you correspond?
Email headers are not relevant to most discussions, therefore no.
My point is that many KDE developers and packagers do not use KDE
like real-world users,
On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 18:14, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> System Settings -> Input and Output
> RightClick -> New -> Global Shortcut -> Command
It's called "Input Actions".
But yes, this works. Still, the current way things are done are
less than ideal.
Thus:
https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23661
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