Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition

2009-04-09 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-04-09, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > As far as the effort required to wrangle the bugs, this can be spread out b= > y=20 > getting users involved. KDE itself has had some pretty good luck with "Bug= >=20 > Day"s where users meet developers on IRC (or whatever) and confirm/deny bug= > s,

Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition

2009-04-09 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On 2009 m. April 9 d., Thursday 04:14:26 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > Another good reason to file bugs that affect Debian in the DBTS even if > they are already upstream: apt-listbugs. As I said, RC (grave, serious, critical) should end up in Debian BTS as they are likely to affect many

Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition

2009-04-09 Thread Mark Purcell
On Thursday 09 April 2009 11:14:26 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >Are you aware about how many Debian packagers has the Qt/KDE team? Do you > >imagine how many time is needed to handle this? And not only the KDE > > people, but other teams as well. > > If Debian can't shoulder the burden of maint

Discussions with no sense

2009-04-09 Thread Enzo
I'm new in this list, but I use KDE and Debian from long time ago. It's great to see this community of users that works for make the use of this pieces of software a better experience. But is a little disappointing to see that the more long discussions have to be more with personal problems/opin

Re: Debian Lenny for the PPC (Iceweasel Misbehaves)

2009-04-09 Thread Manolete, ese artista...
El Jueves 09 Abril 2009 03:07:37 Irena & Richard Jenkins escribió: > Not sure of the problem here, but Iceweasel has refused to start. Tried > de-installing and re-installing ... with no improvement. I am left with > Konqueror. However, I need Iceweasel or something similar to speak with my

Re: Debian Lenny for the PPC (Iceweasel Misbehaves)

2009-04-09 Thread Manolete, ese artista...
Oh, and as Lisandro has said. Iceweasel has nothing to do, so this is not the best list to ask, :-/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org

KMail (KDE 4.2.2) indexing? again and again

2009-04-09 Thread Tim Ruehsen
I just migrated from kde 3.5 to kde 4.2.2 (unstable). My system is up-to-date. From time to time, kmail eats up CPU, Disk I/O and memory while it seems to go through all emails (~25.000 and ~4,5 GB). Started from konsole, kmail outputs lines like: kmail(6098)/kmail (storage internals) KMFolderM

Re: Discussions with no sense

2009-04-09 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On 2009 m. April 9 d., Thursday 14:58:18 Enzo wrote: > But is a little disappointing to see that the more long discussions have > to be more with personal problems/opinions than with the software (like > Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition or KDE 4.2 moving to unstable > *this* week thr

Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition

2009-04-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Thursday 09 April 2009 04:23:41 you wrote: >On Thursday 09 April 2009 11:14:26 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> >Are you aware about how many Debian packagers has the Qt/KDE team? Do you >> >imagine how many time is needed to handle this? And not only the KDE >> > people, but other teams as well

Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition

2009-04-09 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Jueves, 9 de Abril de 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. escribió: > Can you think how fast a RFS on the debian-mentors list would > be denied if accompanied by "I won't have time to deal with bugs, please > file them all upstream."? I maintained two KDE-related packages in Debian, and of course I d

Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition

2009-04-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <200904091114.11428.modes...@vainius.eu>, Modestas Vainius wrote: >> If Debian can't shoulder the burden of maintaining KDE, they shouldn't be >> packaging it. Debian maintainers should be ready to receive bug reports >> from Debian users. I should not have to run another distribution or >> co

Re: Discussions with no sense

2009-04-09 Thread Enzo
Modestas Vainius escribió: Hello, On 2009 m. April 9 d., Thursday 14:58:18 Enzo wrote: But is a little disappointing to see that the more long discussions have to be more with personal problems/opinions than with the software (like Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition or KDE 4.2 moving to

Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition

2009-04-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <200904091620.34787@badopi.org>, Alejandro Exojo wrote: >El Jueves, 9 de Abril de 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. escribió: >> I get my OS from one source, the Debian repositories (and initially the >> Debian cdimage ftp server). I should only need to provide feedback to one >> source: Debian.

Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition

2009-04-09 Thread Manolete, ese artista...
El Jueves 09 Abril 2009 16:46:44 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. escribió: > How is a non-technical Debian user supposed to know if a bug is Debian- > specific or not without installing a different distribution? Asking in upstream forums to see if users of different distributions are experiencing the sam

Re: Discussions with no sense

2009-04-09 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-04-09, Enzo wrote: > Thanks for the reply, Modestas. About the lack of manpower, how could I > contribute? I don't have a lot of free time or big knowledge, but surely > all starts from the beginning. The current place, where help is most welcomed no matter skill level, is helping with

components not working after upgrade to KDE 422 (and move to .kde)

2009-04-09 Thread Xavier Brochard
Hello I'm using KDE 4 since the beginning (on Sid with experimental packages). Yesterday I've upgraded to KDE 422 and migrate my .kde4 to .kde Some hardware related things are not working anymore since the upgrade (I'm using a laptop): - phonon says that the sound card has been removed - the netw

Re: components not working after upgrade to KDE 422 (and move to .kde)

2009-04-09 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2009-04-09, Xavier Brochard wrote: > Hello > > I'm using KDE 4 since the beginning (on Sid with experimental packages). > Yesterday I've upgraded to KDE 422 and migrate my .kde4 to .kde > Some hardware related things are not working anymore since the upgrade > (I'm using a laptop): > - phonon

Re: Discussions with no sense

2009-04-09 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, Apr 09, 2009 at 08:58:18AM -0300, Enzo wrote: ... > *this* week threads). It's always like that? 99% of the time, this is a nice list. I am myself surprised sometimes with the good ratio signal-noise. I chose this time ignore some mails and use my time in something better. Ana, who chose

Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition

2009-04-09 Thread Valerio Passini
Alle Thursday 09 April 2009, Alejandro Exojo ha scritto: > El Jueves, 9 de Abril de 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. escribió: > > Can you think how fast a RFS on the debian-mentors list would > > be denied if accompanied by "I won't have time to deal with bugs, please > > file them all upstream."? >

Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition

2009-04-09 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On 2009 m. April 9 d., Thursday 17:46:44 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > >2) We will probably never forward a new upstream bug reported to the > > Debian BTS to KDE BTS (i.e. open a new bug) and we will not play proxy > > between the user and upstream. > > This is part of being a maintainer

Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition

2009-04-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <200904091712.11218.variosin...@gmail.com>, Manolete, ese artista... wrote: >El Jueves 09 Abril 2009 16:46:44 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. escribió: >> How is a non-technical Debian user supposed to know if a bug is Debian- >> specific or not without installing a different distribution? > >Asking in

Re: components not working after upgrade to KDE 422 (and move to .kde)

2009-04-09 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On 2009 m. April 9 d., Thursday 18:36:47 Xavier Brochard wrote: > I'm using KDE 4 since the beginning (on Sid with experimental packages). > Yesterday I've upgraded to KDE 422 and migrate my .kde4 to .kde > Some hardware related things are not working anymore since the upgrade > (I'm using

Re: components not working after upgrade to KDE 422 (and move to .kde)

2009-04-09 Thread Valerio Passini
Alle Thursday 09 April 2009, hai scritto: > Hello > > I'm using KDE 4 since the beginning (on Sid with experimental packages). > Yesterday I've upgraded to KDE 422 and migrate my .kde4 to .kde > Some hardware related things are not working anymore since the upgrade > (I'm using a laptop): > - pho

Re: KMail (KDE 4.2.2) indexing? again and again

2009-04-09 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Is this happening on a Disconnected IMAP account ? Ritesh Tim Ruehsen wrote: > I just migrated from kde 3.5 to kde 4.2.2 (unstable). My system is > up-to-date. > > From time to time, kmail eats up CPU, Disk I/O and memory while it seems > to go through all emails (~25.000 and ~4,5 GB). Started

Re: components not working after upgrade to KDE 422 (and move to .kde)

2009-04-09 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Modestas Vainius wrote: >> - the network-manager applet put the wifi controler on off and thus >> doesn't access wifi networks, it also crash the whole plasma desktop when >> I try to change the number of wifi networks displayed. > That widget is very fragile. Do not expect it to work most of the

Re: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition

2009-04-09 Thread Ritesh Raj Sarraf
Modestas Vainius wrote: >> Won't someone please think of the users? > The reason I'm talking with you is because I think of the users. The > reason we try hard to maintain and publish good packages is because we > think of the users. The reason KDE is in Debian is because Debian KDE > maintainers

Panel woes and other peculiarities

2009-04-09 Thread Michael Schuerig
I made the switch to KDE 4 today, and over all it went rather well. Most of the annoyances are related to the panel. I may have been living under a rock not to know about this stuff, but here it goes: - I don't seem to be able to move widgets around, even though the panel is unlocked. On the l

Bluetooth in KDE4

2009-04-09 Thread Martin Neumann
Hello folks! Today I made a dist-upgrade in Sid and got KDE4 that way. Now I can not use Bluetooth properly in KDE4. There is no Plasmoid or widget that gives me access to blueZ (neither directly nor via solid). The kdebluetooth suite from KDE3 is able to find my bluetooth dongle and I can searc

Re: Panel woes and other peculiarities

2009-04-09 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In <200904100017.17828.mich...@schuerig.de>, Michael Schuerig wrote: >- I don't seem to be able to move widgets around, even though the panel >is unlocked. On the left, there's the KMenu and plugged-in devices. On >the far right I've managed to add a few application buttons, >logout/lock, and trash

Re: Panel woes and other peculiarities

2009-04-09 Thread Michael Schuerig
On Friday 10 April 2009, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > In <200904100017.17828.mich...@schuerig.de>, Michael Schuerig wrote: > >- I don't seem to be able to move widgets around, even though the > > panel is unlocked. On the left, there's the KMenu and plugged-in > > devices. On the far right I've

Options for the Debian KDE team (was: Lancelot locks accessing NTFS partition)

2009-04-09 Thread Mark Purcell
On Friday 10 April 2009 00:46:44 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > Won't someone please think of the users? Boyd, The Debian KDE team can do about 5-10 things in a month. Which would the users prefer: 1. Handle 2 RC bugs, build, package and upload 3 packages from KDE 4.2.x and discuss on I

Re: Bluetooth in KDE4

2009-04-09 Thread Mark Purcell
On Friday 10 April 2009 09:04:39 Martin Neumann wrote: > Nothing of this is possible at the moment with KDE4 in Sid although it > was working flawlessly in KDE3.5. Martin, Quite a few of us are using bluetooth as well. Unfortunately KDE4 doesn't have the full functionality of KDE3 so if those f