Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-10 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Jan 10, 2002 at 10:44:34AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > To put my example for an "ugly problem" in words: > A program links with two libraries. One of them has an inter-library > dependency on libpng2, the other one has an inter-library dependency on > libpng3. AFAIR the -dev packages of the

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-10 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Adam Heath wrote: > > > What? That means that you can't have a libpng3 program on a machine with > > > libqt2-dev installed ... icky. > > > > Yes, but that's the only way I see to ensure that there aren't some ugly > > problems like e.g. > > No, completely wrong. You want to k

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-09 Thread Adam Heath
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > > > How do you plan to prevent programs that link with libqt2 to also link > > > > with libpng3 ? Manual check ? > > > > > > Another possiblility is the following (only the new dependencies are > > > listed): >

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-09 Thread csj
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 12:12:45 +1100 Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [..] > > KDE packages for libpng2 will be uploaded today. > Can these KDE packages coexist with the self-rebuilt (from Ivan's last uploads [sigh!]) qt, kdebase, etc, I already have. These have been debuilt against png3. Or

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-09 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Philippe Troin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > No it is not the case. Libpng-dev provides libpng2-dev (both are > source-compatible). Libqt-dev should depend on libpng2-dev > (<<1.2.0). That should work. That sounds wrong. libpng3 is not binary compatible with libpng2. Silently bei

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-09 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, 9 Jan 2002, Daniel Stone wrote: > > > How do you plan to prevent programs that link with libqt2 to also link > > > with libpng3 ? Manual check ? > > > > Another possiblility is the following (only the new dependencies are > > listed): > > > > Package: libqt2-dev > > Conflicts: libpng3 > >

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-09 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 03:21:34AM -0800, Philippe Troin wrote: > Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:07:13AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > > Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > > > > > > > It's only the -dev package, which is only

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-09 Thread Philippe Troin
Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:07:13AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > > > > > It's only the -dev package, which is only required > > > > for the compile time, and I believe it is quite small, only

Re: libqt2 libpng2 resolution

2002-01-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 06:56:48AM +, John Gay wrote: (sorry for the delay; this message was lost in the mists of time). > So, if I understand you correctly, you are going to revert qt back to the > old libpng2 rather than keep it at the new one, which Daniel is planning to > re-compile the res

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 12:11:40AM +0100, Adrian Bunk wrote: > On 7 Jan 2002, Philippe Troin wrote: > > How do you plan to prevent programs that link with libqt2 to also link > > with libpng3 ? Manual check ? > > Another possiblility is the following (only the new dependencies are > listed): > >

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-09 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 10:07:13AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > > > It's only the -dev package, which is only required > > > for the compile time, and I believe it is quite small, only > > > with the symlinks and the static link files..

Re: libqt2 libpng2 resolution

2002-01-08 Thread Nick
On Tue, 8 Jan 2002 15:00:39 +1100, Daniel Stone wrote: >On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 03:15:00AM +, Nick wrote: >> Can Chris or anyone else who Understands please give a corresponding >> comment about testing ?I believe the standard wisdom is that >> testing KDE has been less useful than unstab

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-08 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > It's only the -dev package, which is only required > > for the compile time, and I believe it is quite small, only > > with the symlinks and the static link files... > > > > Or better, libqt2-dev depend on libpng2-dev. > > They generall

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-08 Thread Adrian Bunk
On 7 Jan 2002, Philippe Troin wrote: > Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 05:06:27AM -0800, Philippe Troin wrote: > > -snip- > > > > > > Sounds good to fix all the current problems... however how are we > > > going to handle the libpng2 -> libpng3 conversion ? Y

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-08 Thread Daniel Stone
On Wed, Jan 09, 2002 at 01:27:04AM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > "Steve M. Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > > How about libqt2-dev conflicting with libpng3-dev, or something like that. > > > > That's a bit obnoxious. Some folks might like to be developing code > > that use

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-08 Thread Junichi Uekawa
"Steve M. Robbins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > How about libqt2-dev conflicting with libpng3-dev, or something like that. > > That's a bit obnoxious. Some folks might like to be developing code > that uses libqt2 and *other code* tha uses libpng3, on the same debian > box. It'

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-08 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 11:11:49PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > > > How do you plan to prevent programs that link with libqt2 to also link > > > with libpng3 ? Manual check ? > > > > yes manual check > > > How about libqt2-dev confli

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-08 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cum veritate scripsit: > > How do you plan to prevent programs that link with libqt2 to also link > > with libpng3 ? Manual check ? > > yes manual check How about libqt2-dev conflicting with libpng3-dev, or something like that. regards, junichi -- [

Re: libqt2 libpng2 resolution

2002-01-07 Thread Daniel Stone
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 03:15:00AM +, Nick wrote: > On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:42:55 -0600, Chris Cheney wrote: > > >> On Monday 07 January 2002 07:22, Chris Cheney wrote: > > > >> > Hopefully unstable kde will be working good within 10 days (time for > >> > buildds to catch up) > > > >After talkin

Re: libqt2 libpng2 resolution

2002-01-07 Thread Nick
On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 11:42:55 -0600, Chris Cheney wrote: >> On Monday 07 January 2002 07:22, Chris Cheney wrote: > >> > Hopefully unstable kde will be working good within 10 days (time for >> > buildds to catch up) > >After talking to one of the buildd guys I think the estimate will probably >be bum

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-07 Thread Daniel Stone
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 01:04:27PM -0800, Philippe Troin wrote: > Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 10:07:23AM -0800, Philippe Troin wrote: > > -snip- > > > > > > Sounds good to me. > > > > > > How do you plan to prevent programs that link with libqt2 to also

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-07 Thread Philippe Troin
Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 10:07:23AM -0800, Philippe Troin wrote: > -snip- > > > > Sounds good to me. > > > > How do you plan to prevent programs that link with libqt2 to also link > > with libpng3 ? Manual check ? > > yes manual check Ok. Excellent. W

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-07 Thread Chris Cheney
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 10:07:23AM -0800, Philippe Troin wrote: -snip- > > Sounds good to me. > > How do you plan to prevent programs that link with libqt2 to also link > with libpng3 ? Manual check ? yes manual check pgp3Az1eSA42r.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-07 Thread Philippe Troin
Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 05:06:27AM -0800, Philippe Troin wrote: > -snip- > > > > Sounds good to fix all the current problems... however how are we > > going to handle the libpng2 -> libpng3 conversion ? Your solution just > > seems to postpone the proble

Re: libqt2 libpng2 resolution

2002-01-07 Thread Chris Cheney
After talking to one of the buildd guys I think the estimate will probably be bumped out to about 14 days, due to the time to build some of the key packages. Chris On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 10:07:48AM +, John Gay wrote: > On Monday 07 January 2002 07:22, Chris Cheney wrote: > > Hopefully unstab

Re: [ccheney@cheney.cx: libqt2 libpng2 resolution]

2002-01-07 Thread Chris Cheney
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 05:06:27AM -0800, Philippe Troin wrote: -snip- > > Sounds good to fix all the current problems... however how are we > going to handle the libpng2 -> libpng3 conversion ? Your solution just > seems to postpone the problem. libqt 3.x already uses libpng3 so that looks like

Re: libqt2 libpng2 resolution

2002-01-07 Thread John Gay
On Monday 07 January 2002 07:22, Chris Cheney wrote: > Hopefully unstable kde will be working good within 10 days (time for > buildds to catch up). Thanks for the estimate! I'll be sure to hold you to that : ) And thanks for the detailed explanation of where you and Daniel are going from here! A

Re: libqt2 libpng2 resolution

2002-01-07 Thread Alan Chandler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 07 January 2002 6:56 am, John Gay wrote: ... > At the moment, I've only got problems with kmail missing icons. konq has > its icon, unless I start it from the command line and I'm missing the KDE > splash screen when I log in. I have not chec

Re: libqt2 libpng2 resolution

2002-01-07 Thread Chris Cheney
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 06:56:48AM +, John Gay wrote: > So, if I understand you correctly, you are going to revert qt back to the > old libpng2 rather than keep it at the new one, which Daniel is planning to > re-compile the rest of kde to? Yes, I am sponsoring Daniel so I will be compiling kd

Re: libqt2 libpng2 resolution

2002-01-07 Thread John Gay
So, if I understand you correctly, you are going to revert qt back to the old libpng2 rather than keep it at the new one, which Daniel is planning to re-compile the rest of kde to? This is just a temperary measure to fix the current majorly broken state of KDE for the moment, right? Are you and

libqt2 libpng2 resolution

2002-01-07 Thread Chris Cheney
I think that the best solution to the problem would be for me to upload a new version of libqt2 2.3.1 compiled against libpng2. Due to the potential problems with upgrading from stable (potato) to the future new stable (woody). I will do this tomorrow morning. After I upload the new version of lib