Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-22 Thread Julian
On 21/04/13 00:04, Modestas Vainius wrote: > > There is a way to do this - backports. It is an official service as of > wheezy. > However, I see the main problem here - noone is interested in actually doing > the necessary work and invest their days/weeks of time to make it reality. > Debian d

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-20 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On Friday 19 April 2013 13:48:04 Julian wrote: > Its a high level application that runs on, what rightly should be, a > well tested lower (dependency) levels of a stable core (debian base). > > So it has a lot to be thankful for when it comes to stability *out of > the box* or are you sayi

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-18 Thread Julian
On 18/04/13 22:32, Modestas Vainius wrote: > Hello, > > On 2013 m. of April 18 d., Thursday 04:04:01 Julian wrote: >> release cycle rigmarole even if obsolete by the time it comes out of >> freeze and is burned to 100's of blurays...no one wants 4.8 anymore. > > You know there are many people who

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-18 Thread Edward J. Shornock
* Modestas Vainius [18-04-2013 15:34 EEST]: > On 2013 m. of April 18 d., Thursday 04:04:01 Julian wrote: > > release cycle rigmarole even if obsolete by the time it comes out of > > freeze and is burned to 100's of blurays...no one wants 4.8 anymore. > > People desperate for 4.10 are installing e

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-18 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On 2013 m. of April 18 d., Thursday 04:04:01 Julian wrote: > release cycle rigmarole even if obsolete by the time it comes out of > freeze and is burned to 100's of blurays...no one wants 4.8 anymore. You know there are many people who do not care (or does not know) about version at all.

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-17 Thread Diane Trout
> People desperate for 4.10 are installing experimental, which is crazy, > experimental is the crucible of package pain and will always be that > way, but it is unnecessary for alot of applications out there, including > KDE. > > I'd rather test application bugs than package dependency bugs in >

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-17 Thread Julian
On 18/04/13 02:46, Markus Raab wrote: > Hello! > > Julian wrote: >> Having a stable and tested operating system and its core packages is >> important and packages end up in stable that have gone through the >> rigmarole. > > I fully agree! > >> Rolling releases of individual packages are everywh

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-17 Thread Markus Raab
Hello! Julian wrote: > Having a stable and tested operating system and its core packages is > important and packages end up in stable that have gone through the > rigmarole. I fully agree! > Rolling releases of individual packages are everywhere (downloadable > .deb packages or little source rep

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-13 Thread Libor Klepáč
Hi you are right, it's not upgrade from or to version in official debian, i forgot that. Just wanted to help with possible conflict, i didn't realise, that it won't affect users, who use official packages Libor *On Friday 12 April 2013 14:48:17 Sune Vuorela wrote:* *> On 2013-04-12, Libor Klep

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-13 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-07, Sune Vuorela wrote: > Feel free to contact me privately. But note that that you need to have a > good personal backup strategy. Based on various feedback from the nice volunteers including Diane, Andreas, Martin, Marco, Edward and Michael, the package is now in experimental. Good

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-12 Thread Edward J. Shornock
* Libor Klepáč [12-04-2013 16:58 EEST]: > Hello, > I have build kdepim 4.10.2 packages from git, everything looks fine (i was > building previous version of kdepim from git too, so no migration here) > there is one conflict, it shows during upgrade > > -- > Preparing to replace kleopatra 4:4

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-12, Libor Klepáč wrote: Hi > Preparing to replace kleopatra 4:4.8.3-0r0 (using This is not a version we have been providing, so upgrading from it is on your own. > .../kleopatra_4.10.2-0r4_amd64.deb) ... This is also not a package we have been providin so upgrading to it is on you

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-12 Thread Libor Klepáč
Hello, I have build kdepim 4.10.2 packages from git, everything looks fine (i was building previous version of kdepim from git too, so no migration here) there is one conflict, it shows during upgrade -- Preparing to replace kleopatra 4:4.8.3-0r0 (using .../kleopatra_4.10.2-0r4_amd64.deb) ..

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-08 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-06, Diederik de Haas wrote: > Sune said: >> the 'normal' experimental is where the action happens, but it happens >> currently dripwise and not as a big chunk, as it makes stuff easier for >> the developers. It includes prepearation for the modern kdepim. > > Is that the reason that if

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Julian
On 07/04/13 06:54, Diederik de Haas wrote: > Sune said: >> the 'normal' experimental is where the action happens, but it happens >> currently dripwise and not as a big chunk, as it makes stuff easier for >> the developers. It includes prepearation for the modern kdepim. > > Is that the reason that

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Diederik de Haas
Sune said: > the 'normal' experimental is where the action happens, but it happens > currently dripwise and not as a big chunk, as it makes stuff easier for > the developers. It includes prepearation for the modern kdepim. Is that the reason that if I want to do a full-upgrade, the 'solution' to t

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On Saturday 06 April 2013 12:51:13 Beojan Stanislaus wrote: > > I wish there was some "Continuous integration" for KDE packaging which > > took > > the load of: > > > > * Package building and dependency management. > > * Package uploading to development repository for testing. > > * Automa

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
On Saturday April 06, 2013 12:07:57 Modestas Vainius wrote: > Hello, > > On Friday 05 April 2013 08:42:54 Sune Vuorela wrote: > > On 2013-04-05, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > > What was the reason for qt-kde.debian.net then? From the page: > > Some people thinks experimental is hard. Other people

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Modestas Vainius
Hello, On Friday 05 April 2013 08:42:54 Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2013-04-05, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > What was the reason for qt-kde.debian.net then? From the page: > Some people thinks experimental is hard. Other people dislike doing the > copyright-documentation that is required for the of

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-06 Thread Rainer Dorsch
Am Friday 05 April 2013 schrieb Sune Vuorela: > Actual upgrade issues, like file overlaps and such - you are most > welcome to report those. But remember your backup. Hmm...I am hesitant to open a bug report here, because that seems so obvious that I am almost sure that I miss something. Does any

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-05, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > What was the reason for qt-kde.debian.net then? From the page: Some people thinks experimental is hard. Other people dislike doing the copyright-documentation that is required for the official archive. And qt-kde.d.n also could allow people who isn't a D

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-05 Thread Martin Steigerwald
scope here on the list, since it basically is a users mailing list. I continue looking forward to KDE SC 4.10 for Debian via official means. Thanks, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-05 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-05, Julian wrote: > Were the servers down at qt-kde.debian.net? Sorry I'm just confused as > to why 4.10 isn't there? pushing things to qt-kde.debian.net is quite some extra work for everybody, for example it is not hooked up to debian autobuilder infrastructure, so it is basicalyl dou

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-05 Thread Julian
On 04/04/13 21:54, David Baron wrote: > > I agree. I have two (count 'em) experimental snapshot sets of KDE, the KDE4.9 > on qt-kde.debian.net/debian and now the 4.10 on > packages.siduction.org/kdenext. This is certainly not desirable and > probably, the 4.10 shouild be copied or moved to th

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread David Baron
On Thursday, 04 April, 2013 01:44:08 PM Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Dienstag, 2. April 2013 schrieb José Manuel Santamaría Lema: > > Hello Marin, > > Hi José, > > > > Hi! > > > > > > I have browsed some basic packages at git.debian.org and it se

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Dienstag, 2. April 2013 schrieb José Manuel Santamaría Lema: > Hello Marin, Hi José, > > Hi! > > > > I have browsed some basic packages at git.debian.org and it seems > > José and others work on KDE SC 4.10. > > > > Are any of these already in

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-04, David Baron wrote: > All siduction pakages upgraded today, saw -dev packages there as well. Please take siduction support off this list. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.deb

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread David Baron
On Thursday, 04 April, 2013 09:32:04 AM David Baron wrote: > On Thursday, 04 April, 2013 02:08:00 AM José Manuel Santamaría Lema wrote: > > David Baron > > > > > Up and running, quite nicely > > > > > > My wife's desktop came up, no problem. > > > Mine crashed plasma-desktop. Had to start over,

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-04 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2013-04-04, Diederik de Haas wrote: > On Thursday 04 April 2013 08:21:39 Diederik de Haas wrote: >> The upgrade fails on my system, each time with kde-runtime-data. > > Please disregard my previous msg, since I was upgrading from the 'normal' > experimental. the 'normal' experimental is where

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-03 Thread David Baron
On Thursday, 04 April, 2013 02:08:00 AM José Manuel Santamaría Lema wrote: > David Baron > > > Up and running, quite nicely > > > > My wife's desktop came up, no problem. > > Mine crashed plasma-desktop. Had to start over, new .kde. > > > > Found problem was actually the yaWP weather plasmoid.

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-03 Thread Diederik de Haas
On Thursday 04 April 2013 08:21:39 Diederik de Haas wrote: > The upgrade fails on my system, each time with kde-runtime-data. Please disregard my previous msg, since I was upgrading from the 'normal' experimental. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject o

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-03 Thread Diederik de Haas
The upgrade fails on my system, each time with kde-runtime-data. Details: # aptitude safe-upgrade Resolving dependencies... The following packages will be upgraded: kde-runtime-data The following partially installed packages will be configured: dolphin kate kde-baseapps kde-ba

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-03 Thread José Manuel Santamaría Lema
José Manuel Santamaría Lema > rebuilt against 4.8 ugh, I meant rebuilt against KDE workspaces 4.10. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-03 Thread José Manuel Santamaría Lema
David Baron > Up and running, quite nicely > > My wife's desktop came up, no problem. > Mine crashed plasma-desktop. Had to start over, new .kde. > > Found problem was actually the yaWP weather plasmoid. When I put that back, > crashed, so had to do some surgery on plasma-desktop-appletrc to get

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-03 Thread David Baron
Up and running, quite nicely My wife's desktop came up, no problem. Mine crashed plasma-desktop. Had to start over, new .kde. Found problem was actually the yaWP weather plasmoid. When I put that back, crashed, so had to do some surgery on plasma-desktop-appletrc to get rid of it. -- To UNSU

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-01 Thread José Manuel Santamaría Lema
José Manuel Santamaría Lema > deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext experimental-snapshots Oops, I actually meant: deb http://packages.siduction.org/kdenext experimental-snapshots main -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-kde-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: KDE SC 4.10

2013-04-01 Thread José Manuel Santamaría Lema
Hello Marin, Martin Steigerwald > Hi! > > I have browsed some basic packages at git.debian.org and it seems > José and others work on KDE SC 4.10. > > Are any of these already in a testable state? I may be inclined to build > some during the free week after the coming we

KDE SC 4.10

2013-03-17 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Hi! I have browsed some basic packages at git.debian.org and it seems José and others work on KDE SC 4.10. Are any of these already in a testable state? I may be inclined to build some during the free week after the coming week. Anyway, keep up the good work. Thanks, -- Martin 'H