Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Randy Kramer
On Monday 04 April 2005 06:41 pm, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote: > You are whining and that's it. No help here, no contribution. But wait, > you are burning out DD's in the process too. Tough shit. Maybe you'll push > them to resign. It allready happened once and it wasn't the whiners > who

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Lunes, 4 de Abril de 2005 23:09, David Pastern escribió: > And x.org has been out for a year now. If it had been introduced a year But Sarge should have been released a year ago, more or less. Changing from XFree86 to XOrg is absolutely not a trivial change. Just try to compile and make work

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Tue, 5 Apr 2005, David Pastern wrote: [...] If Ubuntu can do it, why can't Debian is the question that many people, including myself are silently asking. Debian is about the only distro to release with the old xfree86 X windowing system. People are expecting xorg and many won't be impressed

how to get an old version of kpat working with kde in Sarge?

2005-04-04 Thread Hans Ekbrand
Hi! Me and my wife miss the "Kings" patience that was included in the kpat package until recently. That particular patience was disabeld because the implementation of it had a bug and no one seemed to care enough about the "kings" patience to fix the bug. http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84819

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Lun 4 Avril 2005 23:15, David Pastern a écrit : > Sorry to sound rude, but i'm finding it's necessary to become blunt > with thick or uncaring developers. Then I'm finding it's necessary for you to learn some respect or at least politeness wrt people that does the hard work of coping with pp

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
> And x.org has been out for a year now. If it had been introduced a > year ago, it'd have all (or near all) of the dependency problems and > build problems most probably sorted out by now. If Ubuntu can do it, > why can't Debian is the question that many people, including myself > are silently a

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Adeodato Simó
* David Pastern [Tue, 05 Apr 2005 07:15:01 +1000]: > On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 03:57 +1000, Adeodato Simó wrote: > > So, for things not intended for sarge, unstable is not ok, and > > experimental or some external repository must be used. > Yes, but if that's the case, why no kde 3.4, gnome 2.10

Re: kdm crashes/freezes

2005-04-04 Thread C. Hurschler
On Monday 04 April 2005 09:22 pm, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * C. Hurschler [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:14:40 +0200]: > > Hi, > > > > I'm using kde from sid and after a recent dist-upgrage kdm crashes and or > > freezes when i try to log in, gdm works ok. Alsa also seems to be > > suddenly hosed. Any sugges

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread David Pastern
On Tue, 2005-04-05 at 03:57 +1000, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Dennie Bastiaan [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:08:42 +0200]: > > > I think you misunderstood me there. I actually meant including x.org in > > unstable, before sarge goes stable. I know that sarge isn't unstable > > (actually sid is), since I've

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread David Pastern
On Mon, 2005-04-04 at 17:48 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: > Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 17:35, Dennie Bastiaan a écrit : > > On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > > Hi List, > > > > > > Sorry for beeing so annoying, > > > > You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (the

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Lun 4 Avril 2005 18:45, Matej Cepl a écrit : > Christopher Martin wrote: > > Then what do you suggest? Are there any free vector fonts, that > > aren't crap, that meet your requirements? Also, what would be the > > consequences of having bitstream as a default for you, i.e. what > > would you se

Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Lun 4 Avril 2005 20:06, Adeodato Simó a écrit : > * Hendrik Sattler [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:21:13 +0200]: > > Not, if I start KMail from the shell where I exported that > > variable. Read my mail: > > 3291 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon --sh > > $ echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO > > /tmp/gp

Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:26:36PM +0200, Adeodato Sim? wrote: > Well, all this updates are 3.3.2 revisions, so it should be safe. > I apologize for the inconvenience. kdesdk 3.3.2-3 has been built on > arm today, and should migrate to testing today or tomorrow, so is not > big trouble. >

Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 04 April 2005 22:26, Adeodato Simó wrote: > kdesdk 3.3.2-3 has been built on > arm today, and should migrate to testing today or tomorrow, so is not > big trouble. Hurray! Thank you Ben and KDE-team. (This means that a poxml patch I've been patiently waiting for gets into testin

Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Andrea Cavaliero
On Monday 04 April 2005 22:19, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > Should packages be removed from the archive while there are still other > packages depending on them? We're supposed to be releasing sarge at > some point, right? Doesn't the removal of a dependency move us a step > in the wrong direction?

Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Noah Meyerhans [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 15:52:27 -0400]: > kde-devel is currently uninstallable in sarge due to kbugbuster > depending on a non-existant libkcal2 package. > Perhaps I missed something, but wasn't testing supposed to protect us > against this? Yes. > How did a package whose dependen

Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Mon, Apr 04, 2005 at 10:14:51PM +0200, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote: > Today I saw that there was libkcal2a package coming in conflicting with > libkcal2. So for some reason I guess libkcal2 was removed from the > archieve leaving kbugbuster without the library it depends on. You can

Re: kde-devel uninstallable in sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005, Noah Meyerhans wrote: kde-devel is currently uninstallable in sarge due to kbugbuster depending on a non-existant libkcal2 package. Perhaps I missed something, but wasn't testing supposed to protect us against this? How did a package whose dependencies were unfulfillable propag

kde-devel uninstallable in sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Noah Meyerhans
kde-devel is currently uninstallable in sarge due to kbugbuster depending on a non-existant libkcal2 package. Perhaps I missed something, but wasn't testing supposed to protect us against this? How did a package whose dependencies were unfulfillable propagate into testing? pgpxvZ3qemswB.pgp De

Re: kdm crashes/freezes

2005-04-04 Thread Adeodato Simó
* C. Hurschler [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:14:40 +0200]: > Hi, > I'm using kde from sid and after a recent dist-upgrage kdm crashes and or > freezes when i try to log in, gdm works ok. Alsa also seems to be suddenly > hosed. Any suggestions Uhm, > ii kdm3.2.2-loco1KDE Display

Re: German Umlaute in KDE 3.3.2

2005-04-04 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Joerg Reckers [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 21:04:13 +0200]: > ok if i export > LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 > it is working :- even the euro! > but > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > is not :-( So don't do that. ;-) Seriously, the @euro thing was a hack for iso-8859 locales, and not needed at all for UTF-8. -- Ade

kdm crashes/freezes

2005-04-04 Thread C. Hurschler
Hi, I'm using kde from sid and after a recent dist-upgrage kdm crashes and or freezes when i try to log in, gdm works ok. Alsa also seems to be suddenly hosed. Any suggestions Thanks, Chris Linux athlon 2.6.9-2-k7 #1 Sat Jan 8 15:38:24 EST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux ii kde-core 43

Re: German Umlaute in KDE 3.3.2

2005-04-04 Thread Joerg Reckers
ok if i export LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 it is working :- even the euro! but [EMAIL PROTECTED] is not :-( so just the euro doing problems. joerg Am Montag, 4. April 2005 20:42 schrieb Joerg Reckers: > I Have problems typing german Umlaute in KDE apps. > > The problem occurs since i changed to UTF-8

German Umlaute in KDE 3.3.2

2005-04-04 Thread Joerg Reckers
I Have problems typing german Umlaute in KDE apps. The problem occurs since i changed to UTF-8 a few days ago. the Problem (in kde): i can type german umlaute in NOT kde-apps like: xterm, firefox, gedit, i get only rubbish if i try to type umlaute in kde-apps like: konsole, kedit, kmail, .

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Christopher Martin wrote: > Then what do you suggest? Are there any free vector fonts, that aren't > crap, that meet your requirements? Also, what would be the consequences of > having bitstream as a default for you, i.e. what would you see? Well, I hate to admit it, but I switched almost complete

Re: what happened to kalyxo.org?

2005-04-04 Thread Andrew Schulman
> * Andrew Schulman [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 05:34:09 -0400]: > > I can't resolve kalyxo.org for several days now. Did their domain name > > expire? Or did they suddenly go under? Thanks, Andrew. > > I believe they're changing registrars, and some trouble did arise in > the middle. Perhaps this li

Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Hendrik Sattler [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 14:21:13 +0200]: > Not, if I start KMail from the shell where I exported that variable. > Read my mail: > 3291 ?Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gpg-agent --daemon --sh > $ echo $GPG_AGENT_INFO > /tmp/gpg-nDWDgZ/S.gpg-agent:3291:1 > And _from_that_shell_ I start "

Re: what happened to kalyxo.org?

2005-04-04 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Andrew Schulman [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 05:34:09 -0400]: > I can't resolve kalyxo.org for several days now. Did their domain name > expire? Or did they suddenly go under? Thanks, Andrew. I believe they're changing registrars, and some trouble did arise in the middle. Perhaps this line in /etc/h

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Matej Cepl [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 09:48:42 -0400]: > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i can't remember) depends > > upon ttf-bitstream-vera, maybe we should make them + antialiasing the > > default. > Please no -- ttf-bitstream-vera (although very nice font) is

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Dennie Bastiaan [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 19:08:42 +0200]: > I think you misunderstood me there. I actually meant including x.org in > unstable, before sarge goes stable. I know that sarge isn't unstable > (actually sid is), since I've been a debian user for three years now. :) I understand what yo

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Dennie Bastiaan [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 17:35:04 +0200]: > The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?) won't include KDE 3.4 ^ No. -- Adeodato Simó EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | P

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Dennie Bastiaan
On Monday 04 April 2005 18:20, Derek Broughton wrote: > On Monday 04 April 2005 12:35, Dennie Bastiaan wrote: > > On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > > Hi List, > > > > > > Sorry for beeing so annoying, > > > > You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Derek Broughton
On Monday 04 April 2005 12:35, Dennie Bastiaan wrote: > On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > Sorry for beeing so annoying, > > You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?) won't > include KDE 3.4 is _very_ annoying. I know that a lot of

Re: crashes and hangs in KDE 3.4

2005-04-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Alejandro Exojo wrote: > [ Replying a bit late, sorry. ] > > El Lunes, 28 de Marzo de 2005 19:13, Andrew Schulman escribió: >> In the case of kmail, I moved my mail out of .kde into .mail, by >> modifying kmailrc-- can't remember the details now, but it's in the >> kmail FAQ. > > AFAIK, only in

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 15:48, Matej Cepl a écrit : > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i can't remember) > > depends upon ttf-bitstream-vera, maybe we should make them + > > antialiasing the default. > > Please no -- ttf-bitstream-vera (although very nice font)

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Christopher Martin
On April 4, 2005 09:48, Matej Cepl wrote: > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > > since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i can't remember) depends > > upon ttf-bitstream-vera, maybe we should make them + antialiasing the > > default. > > Please no -- ttf-bitstream-vera (although very nice font) is usele

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Matej Cepl
Pierre Habouzit wrote: > since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i can't remember) depends > upon ttf-bitstream-vera, maybe we should make them + antialiasing the > default. Please no -- ttf-bitstream-vera (although very nice font) is useless for me because it does not support any characters

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
On Monday 04 April 2005 17:35, Dennie Bastiaan wrote: > On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > Sorry for beeing so annoying, > > You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?) won't > include KDE 3.4 is _very_ annoying. I know that a lot of

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 17:35, Dennie Bastiaan a écrit : > On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote: > > Hi List, > > > > Sorry for beeing so annoying, > > You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?) > won't include KDE 3.4 is _very_ annoying. I know that a lot of

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Dennie Bastiaan
On Monday 04 April 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur wrote: > Hi List, > > Sorry for beeing so annoying, You're not. The fact that debian won't include x.org and (therefor?) won't include KDE 3.4 is _very_ annoying. I know that a lot of people explained why it is like that, but I see many debian-user

"Run Command..." dialog doesn't appear

2005-04-04 Thread Steinar Bang
Platform: Intel Pentium M (Dell Latitude D600 laptop), debian sarge (testing/unstable), kicker 3.3.2-1 Typing Alt-F2, or selecting "Run Command..." from the KDE menu doesn't make the run command dialog appear. Is there something I can do to make the kicker application log why

Re: crashes and hangs in KDE 3.4

2005-04-04 Thread Alejandro Exojo
[ Replying a bit late, sorry. ] El Lunes, 28 de Marzo de 2005 19:13, Andrew Schulman escribió: > In the case of kmail, I moved my mail out of .kde into .mail, by > modifying kmailrc-- can't remember the details now, but it's in the > kmail FAQ. AFAIK, only in the new version the local mail is sto

Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Andrew Schulman
> The problem is magically gone, now, at next reboot we'll see how long ;) I hate those. Spend hours trying to identify the cause of the problem by process of elimination, until there's nothing left... because the problem has gone away. Damn. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] wi

Re: kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 15:40, Bastian Venthur a écrit : > Hi List, > > i've searched the archive but did not find an answer. Will kde 3.4 > handled like x.org -- both will float into sid when sarge is stable? yes it is > Or are there plans to upload 3.4 into sid before sagte gets stable? no it won't

kde 3.4 in sid

2005-04-04 Thread Bastian Venthur
Hi List, i've searched the archive but did not find an answer. Will kde 3.4 handled like x.org -- both will float into sid when sarge is stable? Or are there plans to upload 3.4 into sid before sagte gets stable? Sorry for beeing so annoying, I currently have "alioth-3.4" installed on my laptop a

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 15:03, Bastian Venthur a écrit : > Pierre Habouzit wrote: > >> Kind of strange, that the default-KDE-font is set to helevetica, > >> whicht does not seem to be installed according the the > >> font-select-dialog. (i have mst-corefonts installed). > > > > yeah that setting is r

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Bastian Venthur
Pierre Habouzit wrote: >> Kind of strange, that the default-KDE-font is set to helevetica, >> whicht does not seem to be installed according the the >> font-select-dialog. (i have mst-corefonts installed). > > yeah that setting is really odd. > > since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i ca

Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 4. April 2005 14:40 schrieb Pierre Habouzit: > ok, so my guess is that you don't tell gnupg to use gpg-agent, so add > 'use-agent' in .gnupg/gpg.conf If that's not there, the Xsession script would not start gpg-agent ;) The problem is magically gone, now, at next reboot we'll see how l

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
> Kind of strange, that the default-KDE-font is set to helevetica, > whicht does not seem to be installed according the the > font-select-dialog. (i have mst-corefonts installed). yeah that setting is really odd. since x-window-syste-core (or the other one, i can't remember) depends upon ttf-bit

Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 4. April 2005 14:21 schrieb Hendrik Sattler: > > another option, is to find the right socket, and symlink it in .gnupg/ > > eg. and then do that : > > > > gpg-wrap.sh: > > #!/bin/bash > > export GPG_AGENT_INFO=$HOME/.gnupg/S.gpg-agent:1234:1 > > exec "$@" > > I'll try that one. That's f

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Bastian Venthur
Charles Logan wrote: > With the last upgraded packages for Sarge that included The X system, > kde lost many of it's common fonts in the 100dpi, 75dpi, etc. For > example, the Helvetica fonts show up in the control center as installed > and available, but aren't listed in the font settings of any

Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
ok, so my guess is that you don't tell gnupg to use gpg-agent, so add 'use-agent' in .gnupg/gpg.conf -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O OOOhttp://www.madism.org pgp2gDbRIjSwD.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 4. April 2005 13:54 schrieb Pierre Habouzit: > Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 13:16, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : > > I even restarted it. My config is ok: > > here is your problem. > in GPG_AGENT_INFO you have the path to the socket, the pid, and a number > (I don't know its meaning) > > if your re

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread cbergmann
Thanks, Josh! I really should have read TFM before complaining... Clemens On Monday 04 April 2005 14:06, Josh Metzler wrote: > > And, be sure to answer that you want to enable bitmapped fonts. The > default is to disable them. You had probably edited /etc/fonts/local.conf > to enable them, but

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Josh Metzler
On Monday 04 April 2005 04:13 am, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Charles Logan [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 00:37:50 -0500]: > > With the last upgraded packages for Sarge that included The X system, > > kde lost many of it's common fonts in the 100dpi, 75dpi, etc. For > > example, the Helvetica fonts show up in th

Re: OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le Lundi 4 Avril 2005 13:16, Hendrik Sattler a écrit : > I even restarted it. My config is ok: here is your problem. in GPG_AGENT_INFO you have the path to the socket, the pid, and a number (I don't know its meaning) if your restart gpg-agent, then kmail won't find gpg-agent again, since the loc

OpenPGP/Mime in KMail broken in Sarge

2005-04-04 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi, I only made the Sarge updates, lately: ii kmail 3.3.2-2KDE Email client But now KMail does not want to use gpg-agent any more. It just tells me, that gpg-agent is not running The gpg-agent package is installed (and the computer was rebooted this morning). gpg-agent is run

RE: KDE 3.3.1 screeensaver crash

2005-04-04 Thread Mirabello Massimiliano
Title: RE: KDE 3.3.1 screeensaver crash Mario Horvat wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm having some problems with KDE 3.3.1. The install was nice and > smooth, no problems at all. No broken packages or dependencies. > However, I noticed one little issue inside the kde session. Whenever > th

File manager super user mode not working

2005-04-04 Thread Mauro Darida
hello all, I am using kde 3.3.2 of sarge and have noticed that the file manager under the super user mode does not work correctly, i.e. all text documents are viewed as read-only and cannot be modified. Anyone experiencing this? Do I need to configure something manually? I don't recollect any pr

what happened to kalyxo.org?

2005-04-04 Thread Andrew Schulman
I can't resolve kalyxo.org for several days now. Did their domain name expire? Or did they suddenly go under? Thanks, Andrew. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Charles Logan [Mon, 04 Apr 2005 00:37:50 -0500]: > With the last upgraded packages for Sarge that included The X system, > kde lost many of it's common fonts in the 100dpi, 75dpi, etc. For > example, the Helvetica fonts show up in the control center as installed > and available, but aren't li

konq cervisia and bookmark toolbar.

2005-04-04 Thread Robert Lindgren
Hi, Was there a resolution for the problem that the bookmark toolbar is always showing up when changing to cvs frontend mode in konq filemanagement? I'm on 3.4.0 atm, and if I remember correctly the problem was on 3.3.x also, but haven't seen any resolution for the problem yet, so if somebody c

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread Jan De Luyck
On Monday 04 April 2005 07:37, Charles Logan wrote: > With the last upgraded packages for Sarge that included The X system, > kde lost many of it's common fonts in the 100dpi, 75dpi, etc. For > example, the Helvetica fonts show up in the control center as installed > and available, but aren't list

Re: Fonts disappeared

2005-04-04 Thread cbergmann
I have the same problem. However, it's not limited to KDE, the fonts are missing in Mozilla and Firefox as well. They seem to be still available in Gnucash and in OpenOffice. The recent updates brought new packages for xfonts and gsfonts. Clemens On Monday 04 April 2005 07:37, Charles Logan wr