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asily and efficiently interact with
traditional libraries written in C or C++ through CNI - or JNI).
I really hope that message will be told a bit more.
Note that all of the above does not mean that I want to discourage your
new Debian packages. I really want to see them next to the gcj tools!
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>
> > 1) Does anyone know of any apache ant clone in main. Or, is there any
> > chance of ant being moved to main in the near future.
>
> I don't know of any Ant clone bu I'm working on
r /usr/bin.
Where does Debian want these files installed?
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>
> On 22 Sep 2002 11:44:28 BST, Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
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> > We're working (upstream) on a java program which includes multiple
> > l10n files, based on ResourceBundles.
ac wrapper script for most of the java-compilers
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work with gcj? Could you please file a bug report?
http://gcc.gnu.org/bugs.html
That way we at least know about the issue.
Also Kaffe, Kissme and SableVM (all part of Debian now) should be able
to run java byte code and jni code.
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> Thanks, all of you, for the help. Sorry if I'm rambling. It's 3:00am
> and I should stop hacking and go to bed. :-)
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I have been in contact with upstream, however they all have very limited
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> > Cool! Then if someone else doesn't get all enthusiastic on me, I'll
> > follow up on my ITP.
>
> Hi Stefen!
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nd ant (and so never needed the api). Do you disagree that it
would be worthwhile to split the package into one containing the core
manual and an additional one with the api docs and any advanced manual?
(sorry, haven't looked at the package in detail so don't know exactly
what this might b
Hi,
On Tue, 2002-12-31 at 20:22, Mark Howard wrote:
> You probably have been following your ITP report (119885) and the
> debian-java mailing list, but I'd just like to make sure you know that a
> few people have packaged this unofficially and there have been offers of
> advi
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has made, but couldn't find them on the site. I have the j2sdk1.4
installed from blackdown.
What would be the preferred way to install JBoss for a Debian user
especially regarding future management and security?
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Unfortunately I am in the same situation.
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> I'll try to package the current cvs version to practice debian
> packaging and then I'll wait for the next release.
Great. Please make your cvs packages available when they're done so I
can see if they work with gjdoc.
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The comments in debian/rules should be deleted.
Other than that, everything seems fine.
> (I only have a lintian warning for the symlink in usr/doc)
You should upgrade your system - a newer debhelper package fixed this a
long time a
$/i'
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ately, there are two required things for such a script which I
don't know how to do:
1. get a list of binary packages whose source packages build-depend (or
build-depend-indep) on .*jar
2. fetch a binary package without superuser permissions.
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Debian packages, they would all instantly go into main, since they are
build using gcj.)
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For a nice example see http://www.freestyler-toolkit.org/
And Eclipse of course "runs" with gcj:
http://klomp.org/mark/gij_eclipse/
(Only one of the patches on that page hasn't made it into gcj 3.3.)
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Hi,
On Fri, 2003-07-18 at 23:52, Jan Schulz wrote:
> * Mark Wielaard wrote:
> >Helmer Krämer recently fixed some things in Kaffe to get Eclipse to
> >startup (doesn't do much more then startup, but it is a start):
> >http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2003-July/043
hangelogs to see how that library changes with each
> upgrade and whether your source code needs to be upgraded accordingly.
Stuart Ballard wrote some tools to help with this.
japitools: Java API compatibility testing tools http://japi.sab39.org/
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information already available to create sources to classes
plus jars and Manifest files and turn it into the right invocations to
gcj to build shared librararies and/or native compiled programs.
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modify the build.xml file as needed and call ant in The Right Way;
leave everything else (?) to the cdbs module for those who want it.
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> Hi all, Hi Mark,
>
> I was trying dh_javadoc last night but I did not succeed :'( Can you
> provide a valid 'package.javadoc' file with the different packages you
> want to have in the javadoc? I
ld do with is a mime parser. I've done searches for java libraries
which found org.w3c.www.mime.
I've not worked with mime messages before, so if anyone on this list has
any advice, particularly related to java libraries, please let me know.
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> 20 java-ish RC Bugs based on http://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/all.html
This list includes RC bugs where:
package is in:
`ara -list 'Depends=~/.*java.*/i | Depends=~/gij.*/i | Depends=~/kaffe.*/i |
Depends=~
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Package: java-gnome (debian/main).
Maintainer: Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
173287 [] CVS Snapshot - not suitable for stable
Package: javacc (debian/main).
Maintainer: Nicolas S
yet tried with other JVMs, but if they do the same, should this
be reported as a bug?
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spath) create a src.zip file with:
$ fastjar cf src.zip gnu java javax org
Copy this src.zip to the root directory (yes, /).
That way you get automatic API tooltip documentation while typing your
program as can be seen at:
http://www.klomp.org/mark/gij_eclipse/code_completion.png
(Actually that i
this properties are used by ant...)
>
> --8<-:- snip -:-8<-:- snip -:-8<--
> [...]
> --8<-:- snip -:-8<-:- snip -:-8<--
>
> Can anyone test, what kaffe 1.1.1 sets as java.home?
For gcj. All system properties, their defaults and what they are used
for are described in the manual:
http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcj/System-properties.html
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almost certainly
> will run code developed for this version, all packages must also use
> kown working "unfree" interfaces, when they search for a possible
> java binary. Other java virtual maschines should be used as tightly
> as possible (use /usr/bin/kaffe-1.1 instead of /usr/bin/kaffe).
Again. How are there known working "unfree" interfaces defined and
should they actually be specified in a Debian main policy file?
> 2.7. Building Java packages
>
> A package should use ant to build a package and build depend on the
> required ant environments, including virtual packages for the
> "unfree" environments. They should use /usr/bin/java-config to
> access this ant build environment.
Why should they build depend on unfree environments if they are part of
main?
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Mark
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On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 17:29, Jan Schulz wrote:
> * Mark Wielaard wrote:
> >gij does come with a normal long-option --classpath. But as the gij help
> >output says: "Options can be specified with `-' or `--'."
>
> --8<-:- snip -:
Hi,
On Sat, 2003-09-06 at 19:15, Jan Schulz wrote:
> * Mark Wielaard wrote:
> >I am one of the GNU Classpath developers but not a Debian developer.
>
> Thanks for joining anyway :)
I am a Debian user though and use it for all my development machines.
> >For end-user prog
arks,
> which said, that IBM java is faster than gcj).
Having benchmarks helps (although you should always verify what they
exactly mean). I made some benchmarks recently for the free VMs out
there: http://www.klomp.org/mark/free-vm-benchmarks/
It doesn't benchmark any proprietary tools,
nux environment variables for proxys.
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the native gcj version.
>
> Yes, *if* I do that. Currently I have not done it and this proposal is
> not about compile to native.
But I also pointed out how to get it working with a traditional byte
code interpreter <http://www.klomp.org/mark/gij_eclipse/>.
The point that I am tryin
, Jan Schulz wrote:
> >> Yes, *if* I do that. Currently I have not done it and this proposal is
> >> not about compile to native.
> >But I also pointed out how to get it working with a traditional byte
> >code interpreter <http://www.klomp.org/mark/gij_eclipse/>
be compiled with free software but not run with free software
> to go into main.
It is not.
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main?
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> * Update the symlink, thanks to Gianluigi Tiesi (closes: #213199).
That's really no better than saying
* Closes: #213199, thanks to Gianluigi Tiesi
Which symlink?
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368K 2003-10-03 14:44 libgtk0-java_0.8.0cvs20031002-1_all.deb
549K 2003-10-03 14:44 libgtk0-java-doc_0.8.0cvs20031002-1_all.deb
142K 2003-10-03 14:45 libgtk0-jni_0.8.0cvs20031002-1_i386.deb
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ibrary causes people who
just want to create GPLed works.
If you have contacts with developers using either the CPL or the Apache
license then you might want to bring up this point since it would help
the free java in Debian main situation a lot.
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have with my proposal though is what happens if
/usr/lib/jni has both libgnome-java0.8 and libgnome-java0.9 - How does
the jvm currently choose?
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Original thread:
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e the Done with GCJ list [5] and
the Kaffe Application Application page [6] is also very important. This
lets people know that we no longer need to depend on a proprietary Java
framework.
Cheers,
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[1]
http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/[EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgNo=69
[2]
http://lists.debian.o
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You can also mix and match the above and run Eclipse itself with gij,
but your own projects from Eclipse with kaffe:
http://www.klomp.org/mark/classpath/eclipse-gcj-kaffe.png
Or combine it with the java-gnome bindings and the Eclipse project
wizard plugin to get a nice free
oftware and does not belong in main.
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org/eclipse/team/internal/core/streams/TimeoutInputStream.runThread(()V)
WARNING start_pc=161990681 end_pc=161990644 in
org/eclipse/team/internal/core/streams/TimeoutOutputStream.runThread(()V)
WARNING start_pc=161991183 end_pc=161990644 in
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(Wouter Verhelst and Martin Michlmayr are organizing that).
But attending Fosdem <http://www.fodem.org/> is always fun!
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It is official now. We will have a developer room at Fosdem (February
21/22, Brussels, Be
.cacheLookup(DateFormatSymbols.java:417)
at java.text.DateFormatSymbols.initializeData(DateFormatSymbols.java:468)
at java.text.DateFormatSymbols.(DateFormatSymbols.java:103)
at java.text.SimpleDateFormat.(SimpleDateFormat.java:442)
at java.text.SimpleDateFormat.(SimpleDateFormat.java:424)
Thanks in ad
esting, even if these packages have RC bugs and are not themselves
getting newer versions into testing.
Jikes does not need versioned dependencies on these packages, so I don't
see what the problem is.
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ning - keynotes
http://www.fosdem.org/2004/index/schedule
Saterday afternoon:
- 14h00 -> 14h50
GNU Classpath -- Core Classes for a Diversity of Free Java Virtual
Machines (GNU Classpath overview and free applications/runtimes show.)
by Sascha Brawer and Mark Wielaard
- 15h00 -
perty you run it with.
It is only JButton at the moment, but the basic swing framework now
seems to work (with multiple backends)! Volunteers for the other Swing
widgets?
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Hi,
On Wed, 2004-01-14 at 12:32, Mark Howard wrote:
> I was hoping that some Debian Java experts might be able to help out
> with a couple of problems with bugwatcher (debbuggtk package).
>
> 1)
> Bugwatcher works with gij or blackdown java
> My wrapper scripts just
it
doesn work for non-trivial things. And enabling it by default would help
us expose anything that might be broken.
> [1] http://www.kaffe.org/pipermail/kaffe/2002-June/039992.html
Cheers,
Mark
import java.io.*;
public class RuntimeExec
{
public static void main(String[] args) throws Exce
Hi,
Thanks for the report!
On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 16:54, Stefan Gybas wrote:
> - Native compilation
>
>Mark Wielaard and Tom Tromey showed a natively compiled version of
>Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org) using gcj. Arnaud and I talked to
>them about packaging na
opers in a couple of
embedded devices that required these terms. And to be honest, when I see
what the kaffe hackers accomplish and distribute under the GPL it makes
me feel silly that I ever advocated releasing software under something
else then the GPL proper.
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l have to communicate and participate in the strike force for it to
work.
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it'll be available
for
> the community).
Come on :) Show a bit more spirit! We might want to cooperate together
with the other distributions. But that shouldn't mean they can just beat
us to the punch!
Cheers,
Mark
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The following is an email I send to s
]. And even though I am not a Debian developer I did join the
Pkg-java-kaffe mailinglist [3] so I am hopefully able to help with any
packaging questions that need upstream guidance.
Hope we will work nicely together.
Thanks,
Mark
[1] http://linux4u.jinr.ru/usoft/WWW/www_redhat.com/linux-info/j
he time to read this and hopefully
responding.
http://java-gnome.sf.net
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hen the Eclipse
group got their own foundation and new board of directors. Working on
this issue from the top (board level) is sometimes surprisingly
difficult. But as the Kaffe/Apache Gump example shows hackers who just
want to get some work done can often help a lot getting different groups
talk
is by constantly claiming someone
else work is "illegal" and/or "a complete waste of time".
Cheers,
Mark
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e to be sure that it really completes since if it
doesn't there is clearly something wrong with that Plugin.
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reating this package!
Cheers,
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Dependencies missing:
apt-get install libtomcat4-java liblucene-java
Note that these and some other packages come from contrib:
ant, libxalan2-java, libbcel-java, libmx4j-java,
libcommons-modeler-java, liblucene-java, libtomcat4-java
xalan2.ja
>
> thus the log (in attach)
Which indicates that the compiler cannot find the junit package.
Hope this helps.
Cheers,
Mark
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Hi,
On Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 10:24:17AM -0500, Ean R . Schuessler wrote:
> The servlet.jar in Kaffe will not work. It is only a shell. There is another
> LGPL implementation that was written by Paul Siegmann and Mark Wielaard. It
> is available at: http://www.euronet.nl/~pauls/java/se
ebian. There are a lot of projects that you can choose from:
classpath: <http://www.classpath.org>
kaffe: <http://www.kaffe.org>
Japhar: <http://www.japhar.org>
gcj and libgcj: <http://sourceware.cygnus.com/java/>
jikes: <http://www.research.ibm.com/jikes/>
(The new license seems to
Hi,
On Wed, Aug 11, 1999 at 08:05:00AM -0400, Gene McCulley wrote:
> Mark> Yes, the JDK License is scary. Especially the License that
> Mark> comes with JDK 1.2. Clause 2 of that license says:
>
> >> Software is confidential and copyrighted. Title to S
compliant'.
So we are almost there. Now start implementing that debugger, the Swing
classes and a Javadoc tool and we are done :)
Cheers,
Mark
ght back to to FSF when working
on GCC. Why isn't that the case now? Why haven't Classpath and libgcj merged?
(The classlibrary of Kaffe is another story since that is distributed under
the GPL and is not very well documented.)
Cheers,
Mark
P.S. I saw a posting of you on Slashdot in w
> bytecode, not native code.
It works just fine on my PowerPC machine.
Cheers,
Mark
Hi,
I have never tried it seems that RXTX <http://www.rxtx.org/> would be usefull.
>From the Intro page:
RXTX is a native lib providing serial and parallel communication for the Java
Development Toolkit (JDK). All deliverables are under the gnu LGPL license.
Cheers,
Mark
o ahead and
> > > put the CVS .debs I have in incoming.
> >
> > Do you plan to compile them with --with-libffi? At least on PowerPC,
> > this is mandatory (kaffe does not know the calling conventions of
> > PowerPC/Linux). But FFI is not packaged on Debian...
Cheers,
Mar
d on
java-virtual-machine."
But many current java packages do not have this
dependency. Suggestions?
Many thanks,
Mark
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Hi All,
One more:
4. Some of the upstream docbook xml packages [1] come with jar files that
extend saxon, xt, and xalan2 processing functionality. (Separately.)
Should I package these as java "programs", and include wrapper
scripts?
Thanks again,
Mark
[1] The xsl style
Just to chime in, as an occasional java user (ie. "oh, this program
is in java, what do I have to figure out to run it -- oh, I can just
apt-get install these java libs") I agree - installed java packages
*should* be no less usable than installed C or Perl libraries.
Perhaps that implies that the
eems to be only available from CVS through Savannah:
<http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/classpathx/mail/>
Cheers,
Mark
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Stuff to read:
<http://www.toad.com/gnu/whatswrong.html>
What's Wrong with Copy Protection, by John Gilmore
please define
the following:
NMU
ITP
RC
BTS
Thanks!
Mark Bucciarelli
asily and efficiently interact with
traditional libraries written in C or C++ through CNI - or JNI).
I really hope that message will be told a bit more.
Note that all of the above does not mean that I want to discourage your
new Debian packages. I really want to see them next to the gcj tools!
Let those gcj hackers prove their tools are better :)
Cheers,
Mark
know if you have any better suggestions for the package
names.
[Please CC me - I'm not on the list at the moment]
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On Sat, 2002-08-31 at 11:20, Stefan Gybas wrote:
> Mark Howard wrote:
>
> > 1) Does anyone know of any apache ant clone in main. Or, is there any
> > chance of ant being moved to main in the near future.
>
> I don't know of any Ant clone bu I'm working on
r /usr/bin.
Where does Debian want these files installed?
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On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 01:40, Susan Kleinmann wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On 22 Sep 2002 11:44:28 BST, Mark Howard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> > Hi,
> > We're working (upstream) on a java program which includes multiple
> > l10n files, based on ResourceBundles.
ac wrapper script for most of the java-compilers
currently in main.
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runtime environment.
If a given source (like the JDK does) brings both a compiler and a
virtual machine, you may name the compiler package -dev.
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docs and api for any
linked libraries? or is it appropriate to just Recommend the other
packages and have broken links? or are there any better solutions?
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