Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Debian probably can't make packages of Tomcat 4.0 because of the > additonally required JARs, see > http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2001/debian-java-200112/msg00018.html > for details. Is it possible to make kind of installer packages for t

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: Is it possible to make kind of installer packages for these dependencies? Like the realplayer package or else. Yes, sure it is. The ftp admins might even allow a real package for non-free but nobody has volunteered yet. -- Stefan Gybas

Jars from source

2002-02-08 Thread Lars Bahner
Hello world, as it happens I am working packageing openantivirus's ScannerDaemon. It is a .jar file and seems to work well. Now with the packageing I assume I have to create the .jar-file from the Java sources due to Debian Standards. Problems is I have no idea how to go about this. There is a f

Re: Jars from source

2002-02-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Lars Bahner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > as it happens I am working packageing openantivirus's ScannerDaemon. It > is a .jar file and seems to work well. Now with the packageing I assume > I have to create the .jar-file from the Java sources due to Debian > Standards. Problems is I have no idea ho

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > > Is it possible to make kind of installer packages for these > > dependencies? Like the realplayer package or else. > > Yes, sure it is. The ftp admins might even allow a real package for > non-free but nobody has volun

Re: Jars from source

2002-02-08 Thread Stefan Gybas
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:46:28PM +0100, Lars Bahner wrote: > There is a file ``build.xml'' which seems to be the equivalent of a > makefile, but, alas, I have no idea how to invoke this. It's a build file for Ant, just install the ant package and type ant. This should at least compile the sourc

RE: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>> Yes, sure it is. The ftp admins might even allow a real package for >> non-free but nobody has volunteered yet. > >It is possible to make a non-free package for jndi and so? > >Well, Stefan, I won't bother you with simple package questions, I've >just subscribe to some Debian-dev mailing li

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
"GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have some discussions around the packaging of these kind of API, > which are mandatory for TC 4.x on tomcat-dev and Sun employees > clearly indicate that WE SHOULDN'T PROVIDE ANY PACKAGING OF SUCH JAR > (RPM/DEB), see Licence Hi Henri, Ifo

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Rick Lutowski
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > especially when you (i think) argue that jakarta is not responsible to > provide a full distribution and it's user or package maintainer > responsability to download the different jars needed by the > application (in our case tomcat4). By 'package mainta

RE: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>> We have some discussions around the packaging of these kind of API, >> which are mandatory for TC 4.x on tomcat-dev and Sun employees >> clearly indicate that WE SHOULDN'T PROVIDE ANY PACKAGING OF SUCH JAR >> (RPM/DEB), see Licence > >Hi Henri, > >Ifollowed somediscussions

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Rick Lutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > > especially when you (i think) argue that jakarta is not > > responsible to provide a full distribution and it's user or > > package maintainer responsability to download the different jars > > needed by the

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
"GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's a real problem with the dreaded Sun Binary License. You > could provide a jar in a product, ie a tomcat binary could be > released with jndi, jta, javamail but couldn't put it alone. > > So you couldn't provide a jndi deb package

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Stefan Gybas wrote: > Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > > Is it possible to make kind of installer packages for these > > dependencies? Like the realplayer package or else. > > > Yes, sure it is. The ftp admins might even allow a real package for > non-free but nobody has vo

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread J. R. Westmoreland
Do I understand this correctly? The installer behavior would be like the package that does the java docs? If this is correct that might be a good solution. J.R. Westmoreland On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 11:33:43AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Stefan Gybas wrote: > > > Arnaud Vandy

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread J. R. Westmoreland
Two quick observations... Please correct me if I'm wrong... If memory serves, the JSSE problem will solve itself at the release of JDK-1.4. I recall reading that this package should be included as part of this java release. Second, is the LDAP you are referring to the same as the libldap-java p

NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-08 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
I find myself with a need for the NBIO package from: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mdw/proj/java-nbio/ which implements non-blocking socket I/O. It's sort of a precursor to the nbio functionality that's in the Java 1.4 beta, implemented on top of standard socket calls like poll(). Has anyone e

RE: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>I meant the man who will make the Debian package of Tomcat. According >to the Debian philosophy, it means making different packages and >dependencies. The packages with license problems will not be IN a >package but an installer package may be a good solution (the >[end-]user

RE: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>Two quick observations... Please correct me if I'm wrong... > >If memory serves, the JSSE problem will solve itself at the >release of JDK-1.4. Yes, it will included, also with the others problematic jars. >I recall reading that this package should be included as part >of this java release. >

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Debian probably can't make packages of Tomcat 4.0 because of the > additonally required JARs, see > http://lists.debian.org/debian-java/2001/debian-java-200112/msg00018.html > for details. Is it possible to make kind of installer packages for

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Stefan Gybas
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Is it possible to make kind of installer packages for these > dependencies? Like the realplayer package or else. Yes, sure it is. The ftp admins might even allow a real package for non-free but nobody has volunteered yet. -- Stefan Gybas -- To UNSUBSCRIB

Jars from source

2002-02-08 Thread Lars Bahner
Hello world, as it happens I am working packageing openantivirus's ScannerDaemon. It is a .jar file and seems to work well. Now with the packageing I assume I have to create the .jar-file from the Java sources due to Debian Standards. Problems is I have no idea how to go about this. There is a

Re: Jars from source

2002-02-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Lars Bahner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > as it happens I am working packageing openantivirus's ScannerDaemon. It > is a .jar file and seems to work well. Now with the packageing I assume > I have to create the .jar-file from the Java sources due to Debian > Standards. Problems is I have no idea h

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > > Is it possible to make kind of installer packages for these > > dependencies? Like the realplayer package or else. > > Yes, sure it is. The ftp admins might even allow a real package for > non-free but nobody has volu

Re: Jars from source

2002-02-08 Thread Stefan Gybas
On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 12:46:28PM +0100, Lars Bahner wrote: > There is a file ``build.xml'' which seems to be the equivalent of a > makefile, but, alas, I have no idea how to invoke this. It's a build file for Ant, just install the ant package and type ant. This should at least compile the sour

RE: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>> Yes, sure it is. The ftp admins might even allow a real package for >> non-free but nobody has volunteered yet. > >It is possible to make a non-free package for jndi and so? > >Well, Stefan, I won't bother you with simple package questions, I've >just subscribe to some Debian-dev mailing l

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
"GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have some discussions around the packaging of these kind of API, > which are mandatory for TC 4.x on tomcat-dev and Sun employees > clearly indicate that WE SHOULDN'T PROVIDE ANY PACKAGING OF SUCH JAR > (RPM/DEB), see Licence Hi Henri, If

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Rick Lutowski
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > especially when you (i think) argue that jakarta is not responsible to > provide a full distribution and it's user or package maintainer > responsability to download the different jars needed by the > application (in our case tomcat4). By 'package maint

RE: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>> We have some discussions around the packaging of these kind of API, >> which are mandatory for TC 4.x on tomcat-dev and Sun employees >> clearly indicate that WE SHOULDN'T PROVIDE ANY PACKAGING OF SUCH JAR >> (RPM/DEB), see Licence > >Hi Henri, > >Ifollowed somediscussions

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Rick Lutowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > > especially when you (i think) argue that jakarta is not > > responsible to provide a full distribution and it's user or > > package maintainer responsability to download the different jars > > needed by th

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
"GOMEZ Henri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's a real problem with the dreaded Sun Binary License. You > could provide a jar in a product, ie a tomcat binary could be > released with jndi, jta, javamail but couldn't put it alone. > > So you couldn't provide a jndi deb packag

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread Adam Heath
On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Stefan Gybas wrote: > Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > > Is it possible to make kind of installer packages for these > > dependencies? Like the realplayer package or else. > > > Yes, sure it is. The ftp admins might even allow a real package for > non-free but nobody has v

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread J. R. Westmoreland
Do I understand this correctly? The installer behavior would be like the package that does the java docs? If this is correct that might be a good solution. J.R. Westmoreland On Fri, Feb 08, 2002 at 11:33:43AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Stefan Gybas wrote: > > > Arnaud Vand

Re: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread J. R. Westmoreland
Two quick observations... Please correct me if I'm wrong... If memory serves, the JSSE problem will solve itself at the release of JDK-1.4. I recall reading that this package should be included as part of this java release. Second, is the LDAP you are referring to the same as the libldap-java p

NBIO (Non-blocking I/O)

2002-02-08 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
I find myself with a need for the NBIO package from: http://www.cs.berkeley.edu/~mdw/proj/java-nbio/ which implements non-blocking socket I/O. It's sort of a precursor to the nbio functionality that's in the Java 1.4 beta, implemented on top of standard socket calls like poll(). Has anyone

RE: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>I meant the man who will make the Debian package of Tomcat. According >to the Debian philosophy, it means making different packages and >dependencies. The packages with license problems will not be IN a >package but an installer package may be a good solution (the >[end-]use

RE: Tomcat 4.0.1 in Debian?

2002-02-08 Thread GOMEZ Henri
>Two quick observations... Please correct me if I'm wrong... > >If memory serves, the JSSE problem will solve itself at the >release of JDK-1.4. Yes, it will included, also with the others problematic jars. >I recall reading that this package should be included as part >of this java release.