Re: Debian package examples for Java software

2024-09-16 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi Peter, On 14/09/2024 12:01, Peter Bittner wrote: To extend on that, I try to find out how - if at all - (Java) software can be packaged as a Debian package, so that it can be installed root-less, i.e. with an unprivileged user. Where can I find information about that? Did you consider

Re: Debian package examples for Java software

2024-09-15 Thread Michael K. Edwards
Open > Source project maintainer. In my own projects I continuously struggle > with the fact that an improvement in one project needs to be taken > over to all the other projects. > > If you manage several (free software) projects yourself you may know > this feeling: You try to

Re: Debian package examples for Java software

2024-09-15 Thread Peter Bittner
Dear all, Please, don't get me wrong. I'm a long-time Debian user and Open Source project maintainer. In my own projects I continuously struggle with the fact that an improvement in one project needs to be taken over to all the other projects. If you manage several (free software

Re: Debian package examples for Java software

2024-09-14 Thread Michael K. Edwards
re and chrooting into it, you're not > going to be running anything with significant system dependencies (i. > e., anything). > > What I would recommend in 2024 is that you package your software as a > private .deb — which is fairly straightforward, even if you have > binary

Re: Debian package examples for Java software

2024-09-14 Thread Michael K. Edwards
hing). What I would recommend in 2024 is that you package your software as a private .deb — which is fairly straightforward, even if you have binary blobs that aren't built during the package build — and then install that inside a suitable base debian container image. Docker is one way to do

Re: Debian package examples for Java software

2024-09-14 Thread Geert Stappers
for generic examples. My motivation is using a > > standard, widespread convention or otherwise popular tooling for > > deploying software (which - at work - is not open source). So that new > > developers don't need to learn "the process". When you see a "de

Re: Debian package examples for Java software

2024-09-14 Thread Mechtilde Stehmann
g for generic examples. My motivation is using a standard, widespread convention or otherwise popular tooling for deploying software (which - at work - is not open source). So that new developers don't need to learn "the process". When you see a "debian" folder in a repository y

Re: Debian package examples for Java software

2024-09-14 Thread Peter Bittner
> If you tell us what you want to package, we can tell you a good example > out of more than 50.000 packages I'm really looking for generic examples. My motivation is using a standard, widespread convention or otherwise popular tooling for deploying software (which - at work - is not

Re: Debian package examples for Java software

2024-09-14 Thread Mechtilde Stehmann
Hello Peter, Am 14.09.24 um 18:07 schrieb Peter Bittner: Thank you for responding, Mechtilde! Please tell us, what you want to package. Then we can look for a similar one. I packaged software 20 years ago as a Debian package at my former workplace. IIRC, it was just a bunch of shell and

Re: Debian package examples for Java software

2024-09-14 Thread Peter Bittner
Thank you for responding, Mechtilde! > Please tell us, what you want to package. Then we can look for a similar one. I packaged software 20 years ago as a Debian package at my former workplace. IIRC, it was just a bunch of shell and Python scripts, maybe a few binaries. Back then I had to sc

Re: Debian package examples for Java software

2024-09-14 Thread Mechtilde Stehmann
Hello Peter, Am 14.09.24 um 12:01 schrieb Peter Bittner: I'm looking for good examples of how Java software is packaged on the Debian family of operating systems. Ideally, very simple examples with just a JAR file and a few configuration files. Where can I find such projects, e.g. on

Debian package examples for Java software

2024-09-14 Thread Peter Bittner
I'm looking for good examples of how Java software is packaged on the Debian family of operating systems. Ideally, very simple examples with just a JAR file and a few configuration files. Where can I find such projects, e.g. on Salsa? To extend on that, I try to find out how - if at all -

Bug#769199: RFP: fest-test -- common testing infrastructure for FEST (Fixtures for Easy Software Testing) packages

2014-11-11 Thread Tim Potter
(Fixtures for Easy Software Testing) packages FEST Assertions is a Java library that provides a fluent interface for writing assertions. It's main goal is to improve test code readability and make maintenance of tests easier. FEST Assertions can be used with either JUnit or TestNG. This pa

Bug#769088: RFP: fest-util -- Common utilities for FEST (Fixtures for Easy Software Testing) packages

2014-11-11 Thread Tim Potter
Software Testing) packages FEST Assertions is a Java library that provides a fluent interface for writing assertions. It's main goal is to improve test code readability and make maintenance of tests easier. FEST Assertions can be used with either JUnit or TestNG. This package contains c

RE: New user - new software

2014-08-25 Thread José Robson Mariano Alves
I found a sponsor for my package, thanks for the help. From: binarygr...@hotmail.com To: debian-java@lists.debian.org Subject: RE: New user - new software Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2014 17:41:58 +0300 Sorry, I'm posting again to put all the information into a single response. I am looking

RE: New user - new software

2014-08-12 Thread José Robson Mariano Alves
Sorry, I'm posting again to put all the information into a single response. I am looking for a sponsor for my package "bgfinancas". This is the first release. URL of package: http://mentors.debian.net/package/bgfinancas Name: BG Finanças Description: Personal finance manager Site: http://bgfina

RE: New user - new software

2014-08-11 Thread José Robson Mariano Alves
Hello, I finally finished my package. Now I'm using the native libraries from iReport and Substance. I Not found a java library for SQLite that uses JDBC, so now the system uses HyperSQL as it has libraries in the system. I'm looking for a sponsor to put my package in debian, since this is the

Re: New user - new software

2014-08-08 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 08/08/2014 22:28, José Robson Mariano Alves a écrit : > > From what I understand, I should remove the jar files and add a > dependency package, that is, the library must exist in debian > repositories. When compiling the package, if the library is not present > on the system, the User must inst

RE: New user - new software

2014-08-08 Thread José Robson Mariano Alves
> You should remove them and build depend on the corresponding packages. > For example remove lib/commons-collections-3.2.1.jar and add a > dependency on libcommons-collections3-java. >From what I understand, I should remove the jar files and add a dependency >package, that is, the library must

Re: New user - new software

2014-08-08 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 08/08/2014 01:41, José Robson Mariano Alves a écrit : > I also have some doubts about the libraries I use, > I think if you see the lintian warnings you will understand what I'm talking. Hi José, Doubts are good, they are an opportunity to learn something new :) Lintian complains about the ja

RE: New user - new software

2014-08-08 Thread José Robson Mariano Alves
I forgot to put information about the software. Name: BG Finanças Description: Personal finance manager Site: http://bgfinancas.sourceforge.net Project: http://sourceforge.net/projects/bgfinancas/ License: GPL3 Languages: English, Brazilian Portuguese Database: SQLite User interface: Java Swing

Re: Re: New user - new software

2014-08-07 Thread José Robson Mariano Alves
Hello, i have finished my package. I am looking for a sponsor for my package "bgfinancas". I also have some doubts about the libraries I use, I think if you see the lintian warnings you will understand what I'm talking. URL of package: http://mentors.debian.net/package/bgfinancas Regards, José

Re: New user - new software

2014-07-14 Thread Markus Koschany
Hi José, On 14.07.2014 15:14, José Robson Mariano Alves wrote: [...] > I read about sponsorship and would like more information as the software > fits in this group. > And this is it all, my english is poor, so forgive the coherence. XD you are right that debian-java is surely a good

New user - new software

2014-07-14 Thread José Robson Mariano Alves
Hello, I am Brazilian and some time ago I created a java software called BG Finanças. The software is already available in bgfinancas.sourceforge.net some time ago. It is a free software to manage personal expenses, i developed it 6 years ago. Two years ago I decided to release it to the

Re: RFP 702564: graphtea -- software framework to work on graphs

2013-04-23 Thread Adrian Knoth
On 03/29/2013 05:52 AM, tony mancill wrote: >> No, we do not use that library, >> we use this library: https://code.google.com/p/jgoogleanalyticstracker/. > I have filed an RFP bug [1] for a JGoogleAnalyticsTracker package. > [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=704186 Ali has rec

Re: RFP 702564: graphtea -- software framework to work on graphs

2013-03-28 Thread tony mancill
On 03/28/2013 05:25 AM, Mohammad Ali Rostami wrote: > No, we do not use that library, > we use this library: https://code.google.com/p/jgoogleanalyticstracker/. I have filed an RFP bug [1] for a JGoogleAnalyticsTracker package. Cheers, tony [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=7

Re: RFP 702564: graphtea -- software framework to work on graphs

2013-03-28 Thread Mohammad Ali Rostami
27;re the experts on Java packaging. > > > > To make things easier, here's a list of the currently embedded copies > > the mail was talking about: > > > > > > > https://github.com/graphtheorysoftware/GraphTea/tree/master/src/scripts/lib > > &

Re: RFP 702564: graphtea -- software framework to work on graphs

2013-03-27 Thread tony mancill
gt; > Some can be dropped without losing all the functionality, just in case > licensing issues hinder archive inclusion. (Ali, which one exactly?) > > > > WDYT? > > Original Message > Subject: RFP 702564: graphtea -- softwar

Re: RFP 702564: graphtea -- software framework to work on graphs

2013-03-27 Thread Mohammad Ali Rostami
one exactly?) > > > > WDYT? > > ---- Original Message > Subject: RFP 702564: graphtea -- software framework to work on graphs > Date: Fri, 08 Mar 2013 15:23:30 +0100 > From: Adrian Knoth > To: debian-scie...@lists.debian.org > CC: rostam...@gmail.com &

Fwd: RFP 702564: graphtea -- software framework to work on graphs

2013-03-26 Thread Adrian Knoth
htheorysoftware/GraphTea/tree/master/src/scripts/lib Some can be dropped without losing all the functionality, just in case licensing issues hinder archive inclusion. (Ali, which one exactly?) WDYT? Original Message Subject: RFP 702564: graphtea -- software framework to work on g

Bug#644558: ITP: apache-pom -- Maven metadata for The Apache Software Foundation

2011-10-06 Thread Ludovic Claude
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Ludovic Claude" X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-java@lists.debian.org * Package name: libapache-pom-java Version : 10 Upstream Author : The Apache Software Foundation * URL : http://www.apache.org/ * License : Apache P

Bug#608285: ITP: libconcurrentlinkedhashmap-java -- A high performance version of java.util.LinkedHashMap for use as a software cache

2010-12-29 Thread Miguel Landaeta
Description : A high performance version of java.util.LinkedHashMap for use as a software cache Java library that provides a hash table supporting full concurrency of retrievals, adjustable expected concurrency for updates, and a maximum capacity to bound the map by. This implementation differs

Re: Bug #592218 : RFP: maven3 -- Java software project management and comprehension tool

2010-08-19 Thread Ludovic Claude
Here is a description of Aether: http://www.sonatype.com/people/2010/08/introducing-aether/ And about Guice, that's also not so stable there. There is a patch created by the Maven team for Guice, I don't know if it was integrated into the main project. Ludovic Le 19/08/2010 00:08, Torsten W

Re: Bug #592218 : RFP: maven3 -- Java software project management and comprehension tool

2010-08-18 Thread Torsten Werner
Hi Ludovic, thanks for your reply! On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Ludovic Claude wrote: > I would not start packaging Maven 3 at this time. It's still in a lot of > flux, and there are several important library changes (a pending switch from > plexus-container My intention was to start updat

Re: Bug #592218 : RFP: maven3 -- Java software project management and comprehension tool

2010-08-18 Thread Ludovic Claude
Hello, I would not start packaging Maven 3 at this time. It's still in a lot of flux, and there are several important library changes (a pending switch from plexus-container to guice, the introduction of the Aether library with a rocky discussion on the mailing lists). Even the delta between

Re: Bug #592218 : RFP: maven3 -- Java software project management and comprehension tool

2010-08-17 Thread Torsten Werner
Hi, On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Damien Raude-Morvan wrote: > Maven 3.x is still in beta stage [1] and Debian Squeeze 6.0 is now frozen so > it may not be a high priority package. > > If someone have enough time to package this (ie. based on maven2 package + all > new runtime dependencies),

Bug #592218 : RFP: maven3 -- Java software project management and comprehension tool

2010-08-17 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
Hi Matthias, Maven 3.x is still in beta stage [1] and Debian Squeeze 6.0 is now frozen so it may not be a high priority package. If someone have enough time to package this (ie. based on maven2 package + all new runtime dependencies), maybe we can upload it to experimental archive. [1] http://

Bug#586523: ITP: spring-build -- Ant tasks and snippets to build SpringSource software

2010-06-20 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Java, Ant XML Description : Ant tasks and snippets to build SpringSource software SpringSource projects are built using a combination of Ant and Ivy that is refered to simply as 'Spring Build'. . This package contains small Ant scripts snippets for

Bug#571261: ITP: easyconf -- Java library to access configuration of software components

2010-02-24 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
library to access configuration of software components EasyConf is a library to access configuration of software components and applications. . EasyConf main features: * XML files, typed property files (including lists, numbers, classes, etc), or a combination of both * multiple en

Bug#567777: ITP: uimaj -- software systems that analyze large volumes of unstructured

2010-01-31 Thread Damien Raude-Morvan
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-java@lists.debian.org Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Damien Raude-Morvan" * Package name: uimaj Version : 2.3.0 Upstream Author : Apache Software Foundation * URL

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2003-11-16 Thread Dalibor Topic
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2003-11-16 Thread Dalibor Topic
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Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-04 Thread Etienne Gagnon
Hi Andrew, Andrew Suffield wrote: I can live with this view (even though an argument could be made about the fact that many VMs (I do not know specifically about Kaffe) internally use bytecodes from the class library to handle internal data structures [think of a just-in-time compiler written in J

Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
[This is no longer particularly important] On Mon, Nov 03, 2003 at 09:37:49AM -0500, Etienne Gagnon wrote: > Andrew Suffield wrote: > >Kaffe is essentially a filter that takes java > >bytecode as input and emits program code on the fly (this is > >technically incomplete, but effectively equivalent

Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-03 Thread Etienne Gagnon
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Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-03 Thread Andrew Suffield
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Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-02 Thread Dalibor Topic
Etienne Gagnon wrote: Dalibor Topic wrote: It would have been nice if you had made the arguments of each side clear, before attacking my position. The discussion has not taken place on debian-legal, but on debian-java. I appreciate the way Gadek presented both sides of the previuos argument.

Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-02 Thread Etienne Gagnon
Dalibor Topic wrote: It would have been nice if you had made the arguments of each side clear, before attacking my position. The discussion has not taken place on debian-legal, but on debian-java. I appreciate the way Gadek presented both sides of the previuos argument. You have a good point, th

Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-02 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Sun, Nov 02, 2003 at 07:51:37PM +0100, Dalibor Topic wrote: > My first issue is with the subject line: Kaffe uses plain GPL, not some > special 'Kaffe's GPL'. It should be FSF's GPL, if you'd want to > attribute it someone special. I read "Kaffe&#x

Re: Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-02 Thread Dalibor Topic
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Kaffe's GPL and GPL incompatible Java software [Was: Undistributable java in main]

2003-11-02 Thread Etienne Gagnon
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Re: Java software comes bundled with its own jars.

2002-12-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 01:17:49AM +0100, Ahmed wrote: > I would like to package Apache Jakarta/XML software. > Of course, I have got to do it from sources, either releases or CVS. > > Surprise... They are putting jars in CVS! > > These jars are not only needed to bui

Java software comes bundled with its own jars.

2002-12-19 Thread Ahmed
I would like to package Apache Jakarta/XML software. Of course, I have got to do it from sources, either releases or CVS. Surprise... They are putting jars in CVS! These jars are not only needed to build but also to run. If you install some of the software, you'll find your self insta

Re: Java software comes bundled with its own jars.

2002-12-19 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 01:17:49AM +0100, Ahmed wrote: > I would like to package Apache Jakarta/XML software. > Of course, I have got to do it from sources, either releases or CVS. > > Surprise... They are putting jars in CVS! > > These jars are not only needed to bui

Java software comes bundled with its own jars.

2002-12-19 Thread Ahmed
I would like to package Apache Jakarta/XML software. Of course, I have got to do it from sources, either releases or CVS. Surprise... They are putting jars in CVS! These jars are not only needed to build but also to run. If you install some of the software, you'll find your self insta

Re: La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software

2001-11-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Guillaume Rousse | Can't posting be restricted to subscribers only ? This has been discussed a gazillion times already. Posting will not be restricted to subscribers only. (And why would you want to do that? It would mean more work on many people, or we would cooperate worse with other part

Re: La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software

2001-11-26 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Guillaume Rousse | Can't posting be restricted to subscribers only ? This has been discussed a gazillion times already. Posting will not be restricted to subscribers only. (And why would you want to do that? It would mean more work on many people, or we would cooperate worse with other par

Re: La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software

2001-11-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Guillaume Rousse | Is there anything done to limit spam on this list ? No, and there won't be. -- Tollef Fog Heen Axiom #1: You Can't Win -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software

2001-11-24 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Guillaume Rousse | Is there anything done to limit spam on this list ? No, and there won't be. -- Tollef Fog Heen Axiom #1: You Can't Win

Re: La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software

2001-11-24 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Ola Lundqvist : > On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 11:24:40AM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > > Ainsi parlait Tarik Tabani : > > [..] > > Is there anything done to limit spam on this list ? Last time i fired an > > automatic complaint, i get an angry answer from debian mailing-list > > manage

Re: La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software

2001-11-21 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 11:24:40AM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Ainsi parlait Tarik Tabani : > [..] > Is there anything done to limit spam on this list ? Last time i fired an > automatic complaint, i get an angry answer from debian mailing-list managers. I think they have quite a lot of spam

Re: La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software

2001-11-21 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 11:24:40AM +0100, Guillaume Rousse wrote: > Ainsi parlait Tarik Tabani : > [..] > Is there anything done to limit spam on this list ? Last time i fired an > automatic complaint, i get an angry answer from debian mailing-list managers. I think they have quite a lot of spam

Re: La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software

2001-11-21 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Tarik Tabani : [..] Is there anything done to limit spam on this list ? Last time i fired an automatic complaint, i get an angry answer from debian mailing-list managers. -- Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html

Re: La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software

2001-11-21 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Ainsi parlait Tarik Tabani : [..] Is there anything done to limit spam on this list ? Last time i fired an automatic complaint, i get an angry answer from debian mailing-list managers. -- Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GPG key http://lis.snv.jussieu.fr/~rousse/gpgkey.html -- To UNSUBSCR

La NewsLetter d'AALWAY Software

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Free Java software. was: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-03 Thread Greg Wilkins
I think Stephanes criticism of the free JVM landscape is quiet correct, and there is no clear way forward to resolve many off them... However, I'd like to stress that there is a big distinction between a free JVM and free java software. Java is a rich environment for free software (eg 1802

Free Java software. was: Quitting debian-java

2001-03-03 Thread Greg Wilkins
I think Stephanes criticism of the free JVM landscape is quiet correct, and there is no clear way forward to resolve many off them... However, I'd like to stress that there is a big distinction between a free JVM and free java software. Java is a rich environment for free software (eg

Free replacements for non-free software (Re: Quitting debian-java)

2001-03-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
(followups set to debian-devel; please take this off of debian-java if replying) On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 09:57:11PM -0800, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > I hope DMFR behaves differently, then, because I will probably miss > non-free. I have about a page worth of non-free software ins

Free replacements for non-free software (Re: Quitting debian-java)

2001-03-01 Thread Matt Zimmerman
(followups set to debian-devel; please take this off of debian-java if replying) On Thu, Mar 01, 2001 at 09:57:11PM -0800, Alexander Hvostov wrote: > I hope DMFR behaves differently, then, because I will probably miss > non-free. I have about a page worth of non-free software ins

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