* jamie
| On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 02:09:49PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > at least most of it. the jde in unstable depends on semantic-beta and
| > speedbar-beta which aren't installed into the archive yet (they are
| > new packages). You can fetch those two packages from
| > http://samfun
* jamie
| On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 02:09:49PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
| > at least most of it. the jde in unstable depends on semantic-beta and
| > speedbar-beta which aren't installed into the archive yet (they are
| > new packages). You can fetch those two packages from
| > http://samfu
On Tue, May 07, 2002 at 02:09:49PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
> at least most of it. the jde in unstable depends on semantic-beta and
> speedbar-beta which aren't installed into the archive yet (they are
> new packages). You can fetch those two packages from
> http://samfundet.no/~tfheen/
tr
* jamie
| I'm currently just using emacs + jde. emacs has great cvs integration
| and you can configure jde to use ant as it's build tool.
|
| best part is you can apt-get all of it =)
at least most of it. the jde in unstable depends on semantic-beta and
speedbar-beta which aren't installed i
It needs 64M to
128MB to run really well though for a decent sized project.
regards
- Original Message -
From: "Alex Lau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Nicos Panayides" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 12:37 AM
Subject: Re: deb for netbeans
On Wednesday 08 May 2002 1:37 pm, Alex Lau wrote:
> I don't think the problem is the speed rather the ram problem... It run
> fine in my Celeon 400
> but I 1G of ram. It run ok.
Editing the ide.conf to allow for more ram for the vm makes a lot of sense.
Pity that Sun has such a grip on Java. Tr
Alex Lau wrote:
Not to start a fight or angthing pure educational question :)
I really don't see how you can use JEdit to replace Netbean. I know it
allows plugins but I couldn't find much
online... I don't know how availiable that is... ( openIDE is very
complete :) , sorry I'm a hardcore netbea
I don't think the problem is the speed rather the ram problem... It run
fine in my Celeon 400
but I 1G of ram. It run ok.
And I really don't think any Java IDE out there is much or even possible
faster then Netbeans
Eclipse from IBM is in C that may clear your too slow* problem.
Good luck.
Alex
On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 19:01, Nicos Panayides wrote:
> Any suggestions on a Java IDE? I want something more powerful than an editor
> (auto-completion, ant and cvs integration, jsp and j2ee facilities would
> be nice also). Free or not-free (license) is not an issue since I'll be
> using it mainly f
Have you tried Eclipse [http://www.eclipse.org] ? Its a programmers IDE
but there are "plugins" for java. The newsgroup recently had a J2EE
plugin as well. YMMV.
Regards,
Vikram
On 6 May 2002, Nicos Panayides wrote:
> After the whole discussion whether the package can
I'm currently just using emacs + jde. emacs has great cvs integration
and you can configure jde to use ant as it's build tool.
best part is you can apt-get all of it =)
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 11:01:18AM -0700, Nicos Panayides wrote:
> After the whole discussion whether the package can be packag
After the whole discussion whether the package can be packaged or not
let me say this. Even if it is packaged most people will not use it
simply because it is so damn slow. I try almost every Forte/Netbeans
release it comes out hoping that it can run at a decent speed on my
p3/500. So far it is so
Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> "Chris" == Chris Halls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Chris> No, it's not fixed yet. I am still building OOo packages with
> Chris> an installed Blackdown JDK. Peter is working on removing Java
> Chris> still. We have a much easier task than Netbea
On Mon, 2002-05-06 at 19:01, Nicos Panayides wrote:
> Any suggestions on a Java IDE? I want something more powerful than an editor
> (auto-completion, ant and cvs integration, jsp and j2ee facilities would
> be nice also). Free or not-free (license) is not an issue since I'll be
> using it mainly
Have you tried Eclipse [http://www.eclipse.org] ? Its a programmers IDE
but there are "plugins" for java. The newsgroup recently had a J2EE
plugin as well. YMMV.
Regards,
Vikram
On 6 May 2002, Nicos Panayides wrote:
> After the whole discussion whether the package can
I'm currently just using emacs + jde. emacs has great cvs integration
and you can configure jde to use ant as it's build tool.
best part is you can apt-get all of it =)
On Mon, May 06, 2002 at 11:01:18AM -0700, Nicos Panayides wrote:
> After the whole discussion whether the package can be packa
> "Chris" == Chris Halls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chris> No, it's not fixed yet. I am still building OOo packages with
Chris> an installed Blackdown JDK. Peter is working on removing Java
Chris> still. We have a much easier task than Netbeans, since Java
Chris> support is an optional ext
After the whole discussion whether the package can be packaged or not
let me say this. Even if it is packaged most people will not use it
simply because it is so damn slow. I try almost every Forte/Netbeans
release it comes out hoping that it can run at a decent speed on my
p3/500. So far it is so
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 02:33:21PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > I thought that the build process of OpenOffice depended on [I'm being
> > vague here :-(] "some bundle of Java2 stuff," which would have the
> > result that despite OpenOffice itself being "free sof
Tom Tromey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> "Chris" == Chris Halls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> Chris> No, it's not fixed yet. I am still building OOo packages with
> Chris> an installed Blackdown JDK. Peter is working on removing Java
> Chris> still. We have a much easier task than Netbe
> "Chris" == Chris Halls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Chris> No, it's not fixed yet. I am still building OOo packages with
Chris> an installed Blackdown JDK. Peter is working on removing Java
Chris> still. We have a much easier task than Netbeans, since Java
Chris> support is an optional ex
On Sat, May 04, 2002 at 02:33:21PM +0200, Robert Bihlmeyer wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > I thought that the build process of OpenOffice depended on [I'm being
> > vague here :-(] "some bundle of Java2 stuff," which would have the
> > result that despite OpenOffice itself being "free so
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:39:24AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:21:46PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
>
> > On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:12:49AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > > Re-read what I wrote, and you will see that I made it perfectly clear
> > > that non-free was
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:21:46PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:12:49AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > Re-read what I wrote, and you will see that I made it perfectly clear
> > that non-free was not included in "software available in Debian".
> >
> > The software in
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 11:39:24AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:21:46PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
>
> > On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:12:49AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > > Re-read what I wrote, and you will see that I made it perfectly clear
> > > that non-free wa
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:21:46PM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:12:49AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> > Re-read what I wrote, and you will see that I made it perfectly clear
> > that non-free was not included in "software available in Debian".
> >
> > The software in
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:12:49AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:45:24AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 06:37:14PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> > > Ainsi parlait Vendredi 3 Mai 2002 04:12, Matt Zimmerman :
> > > > Assuming that it requires
Hi,
Well, I really dion't know
Maybe take a look at
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-04-2002/jw-0412-opensource.html
This is just a few thoughts, but it's quite interesting. It's where I
read about the "possibility" of open-source (free ?) JVM implementations
for J2SE 1.5.
Regards,
Fr
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 01:12:49AM -0400, Matt Zimmerman wrote:
> On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:45:24AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
>
> > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 06:37:14PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> > > Ainsi parlait Vendredi 3 Mai 2002 04:12, Matt Zimmerman :
> > > > Assuming that it require
Hi,
Well, I really dion't know
Maybe take a look at
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-04-2002/jw-0412-opensource.html
This is just a few thoughts, but it's quite interesting. It's where I
read about the "possibility" of open-source (free ?) JVM implementations
for J2SE 1.5.
Regards,
F
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:45:24AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 06:37:14PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> > Ainsi parlait Vendredi 3 Mai 2002 04:12, Matt Zimmerman :
> > > Assuming that it requires a Java2 virtual machine, it isn't useful with
> > > software available in
On Sun, May 05, 2002 at 12:45:24AM +0200, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 06:37:14PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> > Ainsi parlait Vendredi 3 Mai 2002 04:12, Matt Zimmerman :
> > > Assuming that it requires a Java2 virtual machine, it isn't useful with
> > > software available i
Hi
I'll answer a lot of things in this tread at the same time.
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 06:37:14PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> Ainsi parlait Vendredi 3 Mai 2002 04:12, Matt Zimmerman :
> > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:09:40AM +0200, Roman Kennke wrote:
> > > I wondered if there is a deb availab
> I thought that the build process of OpenOffice depended on [I'm being
> vague here :-(] "some bundle of Java2 stuff," which would have the
> result that despite OpenOffice itself being "free software," since a
> build requires distinctly nonfree stuff, it can't go in "free."
>
> It's almost enou
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I thought that the build process of OpenOffice depended on [I'm being
> vague here :-(] "some bundle of Java2 stuff," which would have the
> result that despite OpenOffice itself being "free software," since a
> build requires distinctly nonfree stuff, it can't go in "f
Hi
I'll answer a lot of things in this tread at the same time.
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 06:37:14PM +0200, Guillaume Rousse wrote:
> Ainsi parlait Vendredi 3 Mai 2002 04:12, Matt Zimmerman :
> > On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:09:40AM +0200, Roman Kennke wrote:
> > > I wondered if there is a deb availa
> I thought that the build process of OpenOffice depended on [I'm being
> vague here :-(] "some bundle of Java2 stuff," which would have the
> result that despite OpenOffice itself being "free software," since a
> build requires distinctly nonfree stuff, it can't go in "free."
>
> It's almost eno
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I thought that the build process of OpenOffice depended on [I'm being
> vague here :-(] "some bundle of Java2 stuff," which would have the
> result that despite OpenOffice itself being "free software," since a
> build requires distinctly nonfree stuff, it can't go in "
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:54:01PM -0700, Nicos Panayides wrote:
> Ok then. I wasn't too sure about it anyway. By the way since there are
> several different specifications (1.2, 1.3, 1.4) for java2 vm (and their
> base libraries), shouldn't there be some way to handle dependencies on
> specificat
Ok then. I wasn't too sure about it anyway. By the way since there are
several different specifications (1.2, 1.3, 1.4) for java2 vm (and their
base libraries), shouldn't there be some way to handle dependencies on
specifications? For instance i have a project that needs 1.4. Right now
i don't see
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:54:01PM -0700, Nicos Panayides wrote:
> Ok then. I wasn't too sure about it anyway. By the way since there are
> several different specifications (1.2, 1.3, 1.4) for java2 vm (and their
> base libraries), shouldn't there be some way to handle dependencies on
> specifica
Ok then. I wasn't too sure about it anyway. By the way since there are
several different specifications (1.2, 1.3, 1.4) for java2 vm (and their
base libraries), shouldn't there be some way to handle dependencies on
specifications? For instance i have a project that needs 1.4. Right now
i don't see
Ainsi parlait Vendredi 3 Mai 2002 04:12, Matt Zimmerman :
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:09:40AM +0200, Roman Kennke wrote:
> > I wondered if there is a deb available for Netbeans? Its a great open
> > source IDE, I think. Or is there something wrong with the license?
>
> Assuming that it requires a
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:42:48PM +0400, Lev B. Olkhovich wrote:
> Sorry if that's obvious, but what's wrong with Sun jvm (JRE SE 1.4)?
> I thought that it is suitable for non-free... (sections 2,3 of JRE SE
> license)
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch2.html
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--
> "Franck" == franck routier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Franck> Did anyone analyse the move Sun made under the Apache
Franck> Foundation pressure ? I've read it could lead to truly free
Franck> JVM, maybe for java 1.5 ?
That's very unlikely. I think the best you can hope for is that
you'll
On Fri, 03 May 2002 09:45:21 EDT, the world broke into rejoicing as
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 11:46:42PM -0700, Nicos Panayides wrote:
>
> > I was wondering now that you mensioned the java2 vm. I've seen on the
> > "packages being worked on" list that open
Ainsi parlait Vendredi 3 Mai 2002 04:12, Matt Zimmerman :
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:09:40AM +0200, Roman Kennke wrote:
> > I wondered if there is a deb available for Netbeans? Its a great open
> > source IDE, I think. Or is there something wrong with the license?
>
> Assuming that it requires a
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 11:46:42PM -0700, Nicos Panayides wrote:
> I was wondering now that you mensioned the java2 vm. I've seen on the
> "packages being worked on" list that openoffice debs are being prepared.
> I am not sure how accurate this list is but openoffice is on. As far as
> i know bot
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:42:48PM +0400, Lev B. Olkhovich wrote:
> Sorry if that's obvious, but what's wrong with Sun jvm (JRE SE 1.4)?
> I thought that it is suitable for non-free... (sections 2,3 of JRE SE
> license)
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch2.html
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- mdz
--
> "Franck" == franck routier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Franck> Did anyone analyse the move Sun made under the Apache
Franck> Foundation pressure ? I've read it could lead to truly free
Franck> JVM, maybe for java 1.5 ?
That's very unlikely. I think the best you can hope for is that
you'll
On Fri, 03 May 2002 09:45:21 EDT, the world broke into rejoicing as
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 11:46:42PM -0700, Nicos Panayides wrote:
>
> > I was wondering now that you mensioned the java2 vm. I've seen on the
> > "packages being worked on" list that ope
Hello,
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:09:40AM +0200, Roman Kennke wrote:
>
> > I wondered if there is a deb available for Netbeans? Its a great open
> > source IDE, I think. Or is there something wrong with the license?
>
> Assuming that it requires a Java2 virtual machine, it isn't useful with
> so
On Thu, May 02, 2002 at 11:46:42PM -0700, Nicos Panayides wrote:
> I was wondering now that you mensioned the java2 vm. I've seen on the
> "packages being worked on" list that openoffice debs are being prepared.
> I am not sure how accurate this list is but openoffice is on. As far as
> i know bo
Hello,
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:09:40AM +0200, Roman Kennke wrote:
>
> > I wondered if there is a deb available for Netbeans? Its a great open
> > source IDE, I think. Or is there something wrong with the license?
>
> Assuming that it requires a Java2 virtual machine, it isn't useful with
> s
le ven 03-05-2002 à 04:12, Matt Zimmerman a écrit :
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:09:40AM +0200, Roman Kennke wrote:
>
> > I wondered if there is a deb available for Netbeans? Its a great open
> > source IDE, I think. Or is there something wrong with the license?
>
> Assuming that it requires a Ja
I was wondering now that you mensioned the java2 vm. I've seen on the
"packages being worked on" list that openoffice debs are being prepared.
I am not sure how accurate this list is but openoffice is on. As far as
i know both openoffice and sun's jdk have the same licenses. How come
sun's jdk (or
le ven 03-05-2002 à 04:12, Matt Zimmerman a écrit :
> On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:09:40AM +0200, Roman Kennke wrote:
>
> > I wondered if there is a deb available for Netbeans? Its a great open
> > source IDE, I think. Or is there something wrong with the license?
>
> Assuming that it requires a J
I was wondering now that you mensioned the java2 vm. I've seen on the
"packages being worked on" list that openoffice debs are being prepared.
I am not sure how accurate this list is but openoffice is on. As far as
i know both openoffice and sun's jdk have the same licenses. How come
sun's jdk (or
On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:09:40AM +0200, Roman Kennke wrote:
> I wondered if there is a deb available for Netbeans? Its a great open
> source IDE, I think. Or is there something wrong with the license?
Assuming that it requires a Java2 virtual machine, it isn't useful with
software available in
Hi there,
I wondered if there is a deb available for Netbeans? Its a great open
source IDE, I think. Or is there something wrong with the license?
Regards, Roman
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On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 02:09:40AM +0200, Roman Kennke wrote:
> I wondered if there is a deb available for Netbeans? Its a great open
> source IDE, I think. Or is there something wrong with the license?
Assuming that it requires a Java2 virtual machine, it isn't useful with
software available in
Hi there,
I wondered if there is a deb available for Netbeans? Its a great open
source IDE, I think. Or is there something wrong with the license?
Regards, Roman
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