Hi.
Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
Omry Yadan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I have emailed sun today, quering if they approve an automatic
installer which will get the bin from their site, and execute it -
showing the user the license as it does that, and installing if the
user approved. I described to them
Hallo Arnaud,
* Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
>> 3. Azareus - not in main, contrib, or non-free.
>If you have some time, you can contact Shaun Jackman
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> and help:
>http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=215127
And resolve the problem, that it is GPLed, but requires a GPL
inco
Hi Arnaud,
On Thu, Oct 14, 2004 at 04:22:02PM +0200, Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
> If you succeed, can you contact ATI to ask them to give the specs of the
> radeon-mobility 9600, because it's impossible for me to have my
> powerbook to sleep :(
OT: Why don't you suspend to disk?
Cheers,
-- Guido
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Mon, 11 Oct 2004 21:54:43 +0200,
Omry Yadan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Dalibor 'Who should fix bugs instead of spending his time in flamewars'
Topic said:
>> I fail to see a proof of the 'it costs debian users' assertion you
>> made in this respons
Omry Yadan inter.net.il> writes:
> >I fail to see a proof of the 'it costs debian users' assertion you made in
> >this response.
> >
> >
> Quite simple:
> 1. Eclipse - not in main, contrib, or non-free.
Which has *nothing* to do with its ability to run on free runtimes. I'm sure Jan
would app
How much does making 'good java programs' run on free runtimes
'cost' Debian
users? ;)
Now, that depends on the maturity of free runtimes.
both in terms of stability (which I don't know anything about yet), and
in terms of level of compatibility to sun's jvm's provided API's.
I fa
However I guess most Dabian users are in fact using the i386 version of
Debian. (Are there any figures about that?)
http://popcon.debian.org/ (middle of the page)
Daniel
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The Nice programming language: http://nice.sf.net
Hi list!
Omry Yadan wrote:
So let me state again what I am after:
To provide users with the ability to install most java programs
seamlessly, today.
[e.g. by using Sun's JDKs]
Problem here is, that I'm not sure if the Sun JDKs would reach _most_
debian users. It was already stated, that Debian
Omry Yadan inter.net.il> writes:
>
> Dalibor Topic wrote:
> >How much does making 'good java programs' run on free runtimes 'cost' Debian
> >users? ;)
> >
> >
> Now, that depends on the maturity of free runtimes.
> both in terms of stability (which I don't know anything about yet), and
> in t
Tue, 05 Oct 2004 00:52:10 +0200,
Omry Yadan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You are exaggerating, java is compiled for Linux, and working
> natively. yes, sun does not officially support debian, but its pretty
> much guarantied to work on a any system which is as Linux as the
> intersection between
Dalibor Topic wrote:
Omry Yadan inter.net.il> writes:
aking Java and Debian closer is simple: use free runtimes, report bugs &
help us make them better than Sun's Java implementation is all respects that
you care about.
This approach is costing Debian users many good java programs which r
Omry Yadan inter.net.il> writes:
> >Making Java and Debian closer is simple: use free runtimes, report bugs &
> >help us make them better than Sun's Java implementation is all respects that
> > you care about.
> >
> >
>
> This approach is costing Debian users many good java programs which rel
A question comes into my mind:
Was the discussion focused on how to get make java and Debian closer, or
on how to avoid the horrendous sun licensing?
Making Java and Debian closer is simple: use free runtimes, report bugs &
help us make them better than Sun's Java implementation is all resp
Omry Yadan inter.net.il> writes:
> A question comes into my mind:
> Was the discussion focused on how to get make java and Debian closer, or
> on how to avoid the horrendous sun licensing?
Making Java and Debian closer is simple: use free runtimes, report bugs &
help us make them better than S
* Damien Raude-Morvan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-03 22:42:40 +0200]:
> It's really funny to hear Sun saying ? Java is portable ? : they bring us
> x86/linux x86/win32 x86/sparc and amd64/linux... BSD ? m68k ? ppc ?
I think they mean the 'compile once, run everywhere' thing, where
everywhere me
Hi.
Omry Yadan wrote:
This is all very confusing to new users.
It definetely is. I had the same problems a few month ago :-(
Having to create a package is kind of awkward, since I just want to
install someone else's packages.
[...]
I know the process of creating the package with java-package, or s
Damien Raude-Morvan wrote:
Hello,
Le Dimanche 3 Octobre 2004 22:03, Omry Yadan a écrit :
This is all very confusing to new users.
Having to create a package is kind of awkward, since I just want to
install someone else's packages.
is it not possible to bundle sun's Java as a basic package (in co
Hello,
Le Dimanche 3 Octobre 2004 22:03, Omry Yadan a écrit :
> This is all very confusing to new users.
> Having to create a package is kind of awkward, since I just want to
> install someone else's packages.
> is it not possible to bundle sun's Java as a basic package (in contrib,
> for example)
This is all very confusing to new users.
Having to create a package is kind of awkward, since I just want to
install someone else's packages.
is it not possible to bundle sun's Java as a basic package (in contrib,
for example), and allow users to choose which java they want to install
the free k
Le Vendredi 1 Octobre 2004 18:37, Rishabh Manocha a écrit :
> I have this problem too..apt usually tries to install kaffe when I am
> installing a java program even though i have sun VM(not thru apt). Like
> the other day I was trying to install ant and it said that it will
> install kaffe too and
I have this problem too..apt usually tries to install kaffe when I am
installing a java program even though i have sun VM(not thru apt). Like the
other day I was trying to install ant and it said that it will install kaffe
too and hence I had to abort.
Is there any way around this??
thanks
On 01/1
I noticed that tomcat4 tries to install kaffe.
I have already installed sun's jdk 1.5, and thats the java version I
want to use.
can I make apt use it?
Laszlo 'GCS' Boszormenyi wrote:
* Omry Yadan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-01 15:12:28 +0200]:
how can I install java applications (tomcat, aza
* Omry Yadan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2004-10-01 15:12:28 +0200]:
> how can I install java applications (tomcat, azaeurus etc) through apt?
apt-get install tomcat4
Azaeurus is not available as .deb AFAIK.
Cheers,
Laszlo/GCS
how can I install java applications (tomcat, azaeurus etc) through apt?
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