Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-14 Thread David Goodenough
On Monday 11 August 2003 21:18, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:58:03PM +0200, Jan Schulz wrote: > > * Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > >JAVA_HOME seems silly in Debian, where we have alternatives to manage > > > these things. I wish it would go away. > > > > I do not! > > > > The curr

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME

2003-08-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
ate message from you, and it is generally impolite to reply publicly to a private message (as you have done here, though in this case no harm has been done). Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:58:18 +0200 From: Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sub

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 04:40:11PM -0400, Michael R Head wrote: > On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 16:18, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > This is what update-alternatives does. > > I actually use update-alternatives to point to > /usr/local/lib/j2sdk/bin/java which is a symlink to j2sdk1.4.2 or > whatever the lat

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-14 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:58:03PM +0200, Jan Schulz wrote: > * Matt Zimmerman wrote: > >JAVA_HOME seems silly in Debian, where we have alternatives to manage these > >things. I wish it would go away. > > I do not! > > The current update-alternatives system isn't working, when you don't > have

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-14 Thread David Goodenough
On Monday 11 August 2003 23:33, Michael R Head wrote: > On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 17:37, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 04:40:11PM -0400, Michael R Head wrote: > > > > > > Which is something that Unix users have been able to do since the dawn of > > time, in a more generic way, with

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME

2003-08-14 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Matt, * Matt Zimmerman wrote: >I did not, in fact, miss the right key. I replied privately because I was >responding to a private message from you, and it is generally impolite to >reply publicly to a private message (as you have done here, though in this >case no harm has been done). Sor

Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-14 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Matt, * Matt Zimmerman wrote: >JAVA_HOME seems silly in Debian, where we have alternatives to manage these >things. I wish it would go away. I do not! The current update-alternatives system isn't working, when you don't have a way to prevent 'not fit to the work' /usr/bin/java to use it.

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME

2003-08-14 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Matt, Reply to the list, as I suspect, that you just missed the right key :) At least I haven't found anything private in this mail * Matt Zimmerman wrote: >On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:58:18PM +0200, Jan Schulz wrote: >> * Matt Zimmerman wrote: >> >This is what update-alternatives does. >> T

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience inconverting to GCJ)

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Heath
On 11 Aug 2003, Michael R Head wrote: > I actually use update-alternatives to point to > /usr/local/lib/j2sdk/bin/java which is a symlink to j2sdk1.4.2 or > whatever the latest I have installed is. > > That said, using the JAVA_HOME variable (if it is set) allow a user on > the system to easily se

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-14 Thread Adam Heath
On 11 Aug 2003, Michael R Head wrote: > I actually use update-alternatives to point to > /usr/local/lib/j2sdk/bin/java which is a symlink to j2sdk1.4.2 or > whatever the latest I have installed is. > > That said, using the JAVA_HOME variable (if it is set) allow a user on > the system to easily se

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-12 Thread David Goodenough
On Monday 11 August 2003 23:33, Michael R Head wrote: > On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 17:37, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 04:40:11PM -0400, Michael R Head wrote: > > > > > > Which is something that Unix users have been able to do since the dawn of > > time, in a more generic way, with

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience inconverting to GCJ)

2003-08-11 Thread Michael R Head
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 16:18, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:58:03PM +0200, Jan Schulz wrote: > > > What I would like to see: > > > > * add a script/way to recognise/install/make known any installed > > /bin/java, together with some rules/infos, what cpabilities this > > j

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME

2003-08-11 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Matt, * Matt Zimmerman wrote: >I did not, in fact, miss the right key. I replied privately because I was >responding to a private message from you, and it is generally impolite to >reply publicly to a private message (as you have done here, though in this >case no harm has been done). Sor

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME

2003-08-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
ate message from you, and it is generally impolite to reply publicly to a private message (as you have done here, though in this case no harm has been done). Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:58:18 +0200 From: Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sub

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-11 Thread Michael R Head
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 17:37, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 04:40:11PM -0400, Michael R Head wrote: > > Which is something that Unix users have been able to do since the dawn of > time, in a more generic way, with a different environment variable (namely > PATH). I agree 100%. H

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience inconverting to GCJ)

2003-08-11 Thread Michael R Head
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 17:37, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 04:40:11PM -0400, Michael R Head wrote: > > Which is something that Unix users have been able to do since the dawn of > time, in a more generic way, with a different environment variable (namely > PATH). I agree 100%. H

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME

2003-08-11 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Matt, Reply to the list, as I suspect, that you just missed the right key :) At least I haven't found anything private in this mail * Matt Zimmerman wrote: >On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 10:58:18PM +0200, Jan Schulz wrote: >> * Matt Zimmerman wrote: >> >This is what update-alternatives does. >> T

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-11 Thread David Goodenough
On Monday 11 August 2003 21:18, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:58:03PM +0200, Jan Schulz wrote: > > * Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > >JAVA_HOME seems silly in Debian, where we have alternatives to manage > > > these things. I wish it would go away. > > > > I do not! > > > > The curr

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 04:40:11PM -0400, Michael R Head wrote: > On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 16:18, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > > This is what update-alternatives does. > > I actually use update-alternatives to point to > /usr/local/lib/j2sdk/bin/java which is a symlink to j2sdk1.4.2 or > whatever the lat

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-11 Thread Michael R Head
On Mon, 2003-08-11 at 16:18, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:58:03PM +0200, Jan Schulz wrote: > > > What I would like to see: > > > > * add a script/way to recognise/install/make known any installed > > /bin/java, together with some rules/infos, what cpabilities this > > j

Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-11 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Matt, * Matt Zimmerman wrote: >JAVA_HOME seems silly in Debian, where we have alternatives to manage these >things. I wish it would go away. I do not! The current update-alternatives system isn't working, when you don't have a way to prevent 'not fit to the work' /usr/bin/java to use it.

Re: Use of update-alternatives or JAVA_HOME (was: Experience in converting to GCJ)

2003-08-11 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Mon, Aug 11, 2003 at 09:58:03PM +0200, Jan Schulz wrote: > * Matt Zimmerman wrote: > >JAVA_HOME seems silly in Debian, where we have alternatives to manage these > >things. I wish it would go away. > > I do not! > > The current update-alternatives system isn't working, when you don't > have