Re: Updating Eclipse

2015-01-14 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Wed, 14 Jan 2015, Paul Wise wrote: > > Really? Without internet access? > > When we say without Internet access, we mean with access to the Debian > archive (via Build-Depends) but not access to random websites on the And the list of Build-Depends is static. At the time the actual package

Re: Updating Eclipse

2015-01-14 Thread Markus Koschany
I think Paul and Emmanuel have answered the general questions already, so I'd just like to comment on these questions. On 13.01.2015 21:09, Pascal Rapicault wrote: > What drives the decision to package certain Eclipse libraries as system > jars and not others (e.g. swt and osgi, but not emf or jfa

Re: Updating Eclipse

2015-01-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 13/01/2015 21:09, Pascal Rapicault a écrit : > - What drives the decision to package certain Eclipse libraries as > system jars and not others (e.g. swt and osgi, but not emf or jface > whereas they can run on plain java as well)? We have a Java Policy [1] that requires jars to be installed in

Re: Updating Eclipse

2015-01-14 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 14/01/2015 02:41, Paul Wise a écrit : >> Yes, this is true especially in the Maven world since it guarantees >> build reproducibility. > > We plan to solve that in Debian by recording versions of > build-dependencies at build time and reproducing the build environment > when doing build re

Re: Updating Eclipse

2015-01-13 Thread Paul Wise
[The below mail is general, I don't know much about the Java/Eclipse context] On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 4:09 AM, Pascal Rapicault wrote: > - What is the root of the decision to build everything from source? Debian has promised to our users that every package will come with source code. The only wa

Re: Updating Eclipse

2015-01-13 Thread Pascal Rapicault
Thanks for your quick replies. I have spent some time reading the doc and poking at the code, and I must admit that I'm still confused :) However I have not tried building the package locally. Before more specific comments/questions on some of your answers, here are some more general questions

Re: Updating Eclipse

2015-01-10 Thread Niels Thykier
On 2015-01-09 20:21, Markus Koschany wrote: > Hi Pascal, > > On 09.01.2015 19:43, Pascal Rapicault wrote: >> Hi, >> Hi Pascal, (NB: Please CC me explicit on replies as I am not subscribed to debian-java) For reference, I am more than happy to provide advice and technical aid where possible. But

Re: Updating Eclipse

2015-01-09 Thread Markus Koschany
Hi Pascal, On 09.01.2015 19:43, Pascal Rapicault wrote: > Hi, > > My name is Pascal Rapicault. I'm a long time committer on the Eclipse > platform, and I've recently been tasked by Ericsson to: > 1 - bring new versions of Eclipse to debian > 2 - make sure the experience of using eclipse on debian