Re: Sun's Community Licence (Was: Various issues: kaffe, compilers, freeness, etc.

1999-08-22 Thread bruce
> Bruce, this is a job for you :-) Maybe when I come home from Alaska. I'd be delighted to see someone else work on it, too. Bruce

Re: Sun's Community Licence (Was: Various issues: kaffe, compilers, freeness, etc.

1999-08-13 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
[debian-legal: please CC: me, I'm not on this list.] On Wednesday 28 July 1999, at 11 h 24, the keyboard of Stephane Bortzmeyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > - A total ban on SCSL code. The license is simply too dangerous to > > include in the Debian distribution, even under non-free. > > C

Re: Sun's Community Licence

1999-07-28 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 01:51:18PM -0700, Cris J. Holdorph wrote: > Ok, but you can pick up books that document the Class Libraries and the > language specification too. I'm sure, sooner, or later, there'll be a Jini > book too, but I'll forgo that point for now. I simply think that we're > first

Re: Sun's Community Licence

1999-07-28 Thread Cris J. Holdorph
Ean R . Schuessler Writes: > On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 11:14:53AM -0700, Cris J. Holdorph wrote: > > You missed my point though. The section you quote, is from the SCSL, which > > you read and agree to (either in writing or by clicking on "I accept"). > > You do not have to do either, matter of fact

Re: Sun's Community Licence

1999-07-28 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 11:14:53AM -0700, Cris J. Holdorph wrote: > You missed my point though. The section you quote, is from the SCSL, which > you read and agree to (either in writing or by clicking on "I accept"). > You do not have to do either, matter of fact I doubt the SCSL is anywhere > in

Re: Sun's Community Licence

1999-07-28 Thread Cris J. Holdorph
Ean R . Schuessler Writes: > On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 10:26:41AM -0700, Cris J. Holdorph wrote: > > So would that cover if someone went to Amazon.com and ordered "The Java > > Virtual Machine Specification", 2cd ed, by Lindholm & Yellin (ISBN > > 0201432943) > > and then implement according to that

Re: Sun's Community Licence (Was: Various issues: kaffe, compilers, freeness, etc.

1999-07-28 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 10:26:41AM -0700, Cris J. Holdorph wrote: > So would that cover if someone went to Amazon.com and ordered "The Java > Virtual Machine Specification", 2cd ed, by Lindholm & Yellin (ISBN 0201432943) > and then implement according to that, then you say that Sun claims it as a >

Re: Sun's Community Licence (Was: Various issues: kaffe, compilers, freeness, etc.

1999-07-28 Thread Cris J. Holdorph
Ean R . Schuessler Writes: > The SCSL is like the GPL, a viral license. The chief difference, however, > is that the GPL makes everything it touches subject to free redistribution > and a garauntee of source availability and the SCSL makes everything it > touches subject to Sun licensing fees. The

Re: Sun's Community Licence (Was: Various issues: kaffe, compilers, freeness, etc.

1999-07-28 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 11:24:24AM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > > - A total ban on SCSL code. The license is simply too dangerous to > > include in the Debian distribution, even under non-free. > > Could you elaborate on that? The SCSL is like the GPL, a viral license. The chief differen

Sun's Community Licence (Was: Various issues: kaffe, compilers, freeness, etc.

1999-07-28 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tuesday 27 July 1999, at 8 h 43, the keyboard of "Ean R . Schuessler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > continue our efforts in the face of the SCSL. I have read the SCSL > quite carefully and I can tell you that it is utterly incompatible > with any notion of free software. OK. > - A total ban