Re: How complex is a natively built eclipse install? [was: Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM]

2004-03-12 Thread Caoilte O'Connor
On Wednesday 10 March 2004 20:44, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > Caoilte O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > How complex is the manual install for debian now? > > http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual > > And maybe clean up the mail you respond to ;-) Maybe I should clean up my respons

How complex is a Debian install? [was: Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM]

2004-03-10 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caoilte O'Connor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > How complex is the manual install for debian now? http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual > I looked at the Redhat pages a while back but there were > just too many steps involved even befo

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-10 Thread Caoilte O'Connor
How complex is the manual install for debian now? I looked at the Redhat pages a while back but there were just too many steps involved even before you try on a debian system. c On Tuesday 02 March 2004 22:44, Mark Wielaard wrote: > Hi, > > Thanks for the report! > > On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 16:5

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-08 Thread Daniel Bonniot
So, as Kaffe is licensed under the GPL, the combination of Kaffe + Classpath must be licensed under the terms of the GPL (as per Kaffe's license). No exception for linking (a la Classpath) may be allowed. But that's not the question at hand. The question is whether you are allowed to run a GPL-in

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-06 Thread Etienne Gagnon
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 07:57:56PM +0100, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Debian-legal didn't follow the interpretation of GPL of Etienne, another > SableVM developer, the last time around, when he was asserting Kaffe > being GPLd makes Java applications undistributable. Instead, > debain-legal supported

Satuts of Swing and AWT in Classpath (and others) [was: Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM]

2004-03-05 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi, Hi, > From: Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: AWT and Swing progress > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2004 13:05:56 +0100 [...] > http://people.redhat.com/~graydon/free-swing-feb-09-2004.png > http://people.redhat.com/~gra

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-05 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 01:19, Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > If Red Hat is willing to give the > work back to the community (I hope they'll do), the demo was really > good. If the promises will never be available it would be *very* > frustrating. Everything is out there

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-05 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Mar 03, 2004 at 09:49:44PM +0100, Dalibor Topic wrote: > Stefan Gybas wrote: > >Main discussions with Java developers > > > >Besides the issue of better collaboration we also had a lot of technical > >discussions: > > > >- The proposed new Debian Java Policy by Jan Schulz > > That's got ti

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-04 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi Grzegorz, Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: W liście z wto, 02-03-2004, godz. 10:54, Stefan Gybas pisze: [... cutting out all things that I agree with ... ] - License conflicts with GPL'ed Java interpreters Currently Kaffe 1.1.x is the best choice for running Java applications in Debian. It i

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-04 Thread Dalibor Topic
Hi all, Stefan Gybas wrote: Arnaud and Dalibor gave a talk about packaging Java software which covered JPackage (http://www.jpackage.org/), Gentoo, FreeBSD and of course Debian. One goal of this talk was to improve collaboration between these projects and Red Hat's effort to package Java softw

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-02 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Wielaard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hopefully the gcj 3.4 release will be able to run Eclipse interpreted > through gij out of the box (that is not very fast, but not as slow as > you would think). That doesn't solve the build issue though. It

Meta Java Package Project [was: Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM]

2004-03-02 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: First of all, many thanks for the summary. > Arnaud and Dalibor gave a talk about packaging Java software which > covered JPackage (http://www.jpackage.org/), Gentoo, FreeBSD and of > course Debian. One goal o

Status of gjdoc... [was: Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM]

2004-03-02 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > Main discussions with Java developers > > Besides the issue of better collaboration we also had a lot of > technical discussions: [...] > Next steps > > We'll try to get more Java packages from contr

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-02 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 19:25, Grzegorz B. Prokopski wrote: > W liście z wto, 02-03-2004, godz. 10:54, Stefan Gybas pisze: > [... cutting out all things that I agree with ... ] > > - License conflicts with GPL'ed Java interpreters > > > >Currently Kaffe 1.1.x is the best choice for running

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-02 Thread Mark Wielaard
Hi, Thanks for the report! On Tue, 2004-03-02 at 16:54, Stefan Gybas wrote: > - Native compilation > >Mark Wielaard and Tom Tromey showed a natively compiled version of >Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org) using gcj. Arnaud and I talked to >them about packaging natively compiled softwar

Re: Report from the Debian Java developers meeting at FOSDEM

2004-03-02 Thread Grzegorz B. Prokopski
W liście z wto, 02-03-2004, godz. 10:54, Stefan Gybas pisze: [... cutting out all things that I agree with ... ] > - License conflicts with GPL'ed Java interpreters > >Currently Kaffe 1.1.x is the best choice for running Java applications >in Debian. It is, however, licensed under the GPL