Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-22 Thread Andrew Haley
On 01/22/2015 02:23 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: >>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: >>> That would be against the rules AFAICR: you're supposed to do your own TCK runs, and not on behalf of someone else. >>> >>> How do

Re: Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-22 Thread Paul Wise
On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 10:11 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: >>On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: >> >>> That would be against the rules AFAICR: you're supposed to do your >>> own TCK runs, and not on behalf of someone else. >> >>How do automated builds factor into that? > > I don't thi

Re: Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-22 Thread Andrew Haley
>On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > >> That would be against the rules AFAICR: you're supposed to do your >> own TCK runs, and not on behalf of someone else. > >How do automated builds factor into that? I don't think it makes any difference. But IANAL, and you'd have to read

Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-21 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 22/01/2015 00:14, Matthias Klose a écrit : > most of this is ranting, and marketing. I, for one, welcome our new marketing overlords and their lovely duke-decorated TCK certificates ;) http://www.azulsystems.com/sites/default/files/pdf/cert.zulu1.8.0_25-8.4.0.1-x86lx64.deb.pdf Emmanuel --

Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-21 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 18/01/2015 23:21, Jonathan Yu a écrit : > I wonder if there's anything that can (or should) be done to address > Gil's criticisms. I love Debian and would always prefer to install > things via apt-get from the official repositories rather than > download/install third-party packages, so it woul

Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-21 Thread Matthias Klose
On 01/18/2015 11:21 PM, Jonathan Yu wrote: > Hey everyone, > > Awhile back, there was a question on the Mechanical Sympathy mailing list > (if you haven't heard of it before, it's a group for discussing development > of high-performance programs, mainly focussing on Java). > > Gil Tene (CTO and C

Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-21 Thread Matthias Klose
On 01/19/2015 03:41 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 19/01/15 11:35, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >> I've requested an access to the TCK for Java 8 in June to >> run it on the Debian packages but I haven't heard back from Oracle yet. > > I'd ping them again. this is a problem. I now got access to the TCK f

Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-19 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Andrew Haley wrote: > That would be against the rules AFAICR: you're supposed to do your > own TCK runs, and not on behalf of someone else. How do automated builds factor into that? -- bye, pabs https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to d

Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-19 Thread Andrew Haley
On 19/01/15 11:35, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > I've requested an access to the TCK for Java 8 in June to > run it on the Debian packages but I haven't heard back from Oracle yet. I'd ping them again. Andrew. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-java-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubs

Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-19 Thread Andrew Haley
On 19/01/15 00:20, Paul Wise wrote: > If there are individuals who have access to the TCK and could > validate the package and file bugs, that would be great. That would be against the rules AFAICR: you're supposed to do your own TCK runs, and not on behalf of someone else. Andrew. -- To UNSU

Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-19 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 19/01/2015 01:20, Paul Wise a écrit : > The actual version is 8u40~b09-1, which means Debian revision 1 of > beta 9 of 8u40. It sounds like he misinterpreted this version. Perhaps > expanding the b to beta would help here? 'b' stands for 'build' here, not 'beta'. A new OpenJDK build is tagged

Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-19 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi Jonathan, Le 18/01/2015 23:21, Jonathan Yu a écrit : > I wonder if there's anything that can (or should) be done to address > Gil's criticisms. I love Debian and would always prefer to install > things via apt-get from the official repositories rather than > download/install third-party packag

Re: OpenJDK 8 vs Zulu

2015-01-18 Thread Paul Wise
On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 6:21 AM, Jonathan Yu wrote: > To my knowledge, Zulu is currently the only OpenJDK 8 binary build available > that is actually fully tested. When I say "actually fully tested", I mean > that someone actually states that the specific binary package has passed the > full set o