Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-21 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:46:38 -0800, Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > "Shyamal" == Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > "Arnaud" == Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Arnaud> I'm not sure beanshell needs tools.jar. > > Shyamal> The Emacs JDEE tries re

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-20 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Shyamal" == Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: "Arnaud" == Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Arnaud> I'm not sure beanshell needs tools.jar. Shyamal> The Emacs JDEE tries really hard to find tools.jar to Shyamal> start beanshell Shyamal> [...] Shya

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-20 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Arnaud" == Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Arnaud> I'm not sure beanshell needs tools.jar. The Emacs JDEE tries really hard to find tools.jar to start beanshell (including special code to deal with the Apple/Darwin file naming). I don't know if that is because very few people

Re: java-config (was Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK)

2004-11-17 Thread Karl Trygve Kalleberg
Joerg Wendland wrote: Barry Hawkins, on 2004-11-17, 09:29, you wrote: That's what I have been doing, I just don't know if that's how we want the Eclipse 3 package to work. Is that what other Java applications that need JAVA_HOME are doing? It seems a bit of a kludge, but that could be my inexp

java-config (was Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK)

2004-11-17 Thread Joerg Wendland
Barry Hawkins, on 2004-11-17, 09:29, you wrote: > That's what I have been doing, I just don't know if that's how we want > the Eclipse 3 package to work. Is that what other Java applications > that need JAVA_HOME are doing? It seems a bit of a kludge, but that > could be my inexperience with Debi

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-17 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Upayavira wrote: | Barry Hawkins wrote: [...] |> Many thanks for the reply and the links; I will read those. I can see |> where the policy is going, I just wonder how practical it is. If I am |> not mistaken, the Eclipse executable also depends upon J

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tue, 16 Nov 2004 13:13:22 -0800, Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Will do. But I'm just trying to see how to get JDE to work when > JAVA_HOME is not set ;-) If you can, please, post. I really like JDE but I can't use completion with bean

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-17 Thread Upayavira
Barry Hawkins wrote: Shyamal Prasad wrote: [...] | Debian executables "must not depend on environment variables to get | reasonable defaults" is the actual statement. [...] | You can't require that a user sets JAVA_HOME for a default | installation of a java application to run in a reasonable | man

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-16 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shyamal Prasad wrote: [...] | Debian executables "must not depend on environment variables to get | reasonable defaults" is the actual statement. [...] | You can't require that a user sets JAVA_HOME for a default | installation of a java application to

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-16 Thread Shyamal Prasad
Barry> Shyamal Prasad wrote: >| I just noticed that both JDE versions in Debian (jde and >| xemacs21-basesupport) are partially broken: if you don't set >| JAVA_HOME (which is not allowed by Debian policy) some of the >| most useful tools don't work. Barry> This is news t

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-16 Thread Barry Hawkins
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Shyamal Prasad wrote: [...] | I just noticed that both JDE versions in Debian (jde and | xemacs21-basesupport) are partially broken: if you don't set JAVA_HOME | (which is not allowed by Debian policy) some of the most useful tools | don't work. [...] T

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-16 Thread Shyamal Prasad
"Arnaud" == Arnaud Vandyck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Arnaud> Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:42:49 -0800, Shyamal Prasad Arnaud> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I do not do any Java development anymore, and I've only ever >> used Blackdown on Debian, so any input would help. Arnaud>

Re: Java policy: finding the base directory of the default JRE/JDK

2004-11-16 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mon, 15 Nov 2004 21:42:49 -0800, Shyamal Prasad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > > I have a system that is installed according to the Debian policy > documents (including Java policy). On this system I am trying to find > the "base Java directory"