Re: Impact of the new Java release policy on Debian

2017-12-04 Thread dalibor topic
On 30.11.2017 13:43, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: Do you know if Oracle intends to keep contributing Java LTS updates to OpenJDK beyond the 6 months window (i.e. after March 2019 for Java 11)? In the past, Oracle's plans for the duration of its contributions to an OpenJDK update release series have

Re: Impact of the new Java release policy on Debian

2017-11-30 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 30/11/2017 à 14:31, Thorsten Glaser a écrit : > > > Eek, that would break most of Debian’s stability promises. > > People would lynch you. > > I know :) That's why I mentioned "near perfect backward compatibility" > as a prerequisite. Well, it’s n

Re: Impact of the new Java release policy on Debian

2017-11-30 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 30/11/2017 à 14:31, Thorsten Glaser a écrit : > Eek, that would break most of Debian’s stability promises. > People would lynch you. I know :) That's why I mentioned "near perfect backward compatibility" as a prerequisite. Emmanuel Bourg

Re: Impact of the new Java release policy on Debian

2017-11-30 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Thu, 30 Nov 2017, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > > major (LTS or other) OpenJDK release during the lifetime of stable > > release, maybe even on a regular cadence as a 'rolling' default. > > A rolling default JRE might be interesting, that would reduce the number > of JDKs maintained (assuming unstab

Re: Impact of the new Java release policy on Debian

2017-11-30 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 30/11/2017 à 12:31, dalibor topic a écrit : > Hi, > > a few comments on the thread: Thanks a lot for the input! > * For JDK 9, I have posted > http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk-updates-dev/2017-November/24.html > regarding Oracle's planned contributions. In short, Oracle plans t

Re: Impact of the new Java release policy on Debian

2017-11-30 Thread dalibor topic
Hi, a few comments on the thread: * For JDK 9, I have posted http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/jdk-updates-dev/2017-November/24.html regarding Oracle's planned contributions. In short, Oracle plans to end contributing JDK 9 Updates to OpenJDK with the end of public updates of JDK 9

Re: Impact of the new Java release policy on Debian

2017-11-27 Thread Matthias Klose
On 24.11.2017 11:05, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Hi all, > > Oracle has recently announced a new release policy for Java [1][2], to > sum it up: > - new major Java revisions will now be released every 6 months > - there will be non-LTS releases supported for 6 months, and LTS > releases supported 5+ y

Re: Impact of the new Java release policy on Debian

2017-11-27 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 27.11.2017 um 13:08 schrieb Thorsten Glaser: > On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Markus Koschany wrote: > >> released in time before the freeze, we could try to make OpenJDK 11 the >> default JRE but keep OpenJDK 8 as the default JDK. I think it is > > Eek, having more than one Java version on a system at

Re: Impact of the new Java release policy on Debian

2017-11-27 Thread Thorsten Glaser
On Sun, 26 Nov 2017, Markus Koschany wrote: > released in time before the freeze, we could try to make OpenJDK 11 the > default JRE but keep OpenJDK 8 as the default JDK. I think it is Eek, having more than one Java version on a system at a given time invites trouble. (Yes, I know it works within

Re: Impact of the new Java release policy on Debian

2017-11-26 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 24.11.2017 um 11:05 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: > Hi all, > > Oracle has recently announced a new release policy for Java [1][2], to > sum it up: [...] Well, like you said, provided that OpenJDK 11 is also a LTS version and released in time before the freeze, we could try to make OpenJDK 11 the d