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Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I have a question to you all. Should we allow the same interface in
> > different
> > packages? It seems to create strange conflicts but sometime it is necessary,
> > or? What do you all think?
>
> Tha
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Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sometimes I think Sun forgets about all the people who write Java application,
> while they are hyping applets, servlets, J2EE etc. Does anyone still remember
> Jini? What has happened to that "revolution"
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Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > I have a question to you all. Should we allow the same interface in different
> > packages? It seems to create strange conflicts but sometime it is necessary,
> > or? What do you all think?
>
> That's
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Max Kellermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> Sometimes I think Sun forgets about all the people who write Java application,
> while they are hyping applets, servlets, J2EE etc. Does anyone still remember
> Jini? What has happened to that "revolution
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No Class-Path at all whenever possible.. remember the example that Xalan2
> > provides a Xalan1-compatibility layer - it Xalan2 must be included, we can
> > satisfy all Xalan1-dependencies with that library (with lower precedence).
> > Not poss
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 01:08:42PM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
> On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have now read this. Not very much of a documentation so I have some
> > questions... :)
> >
> > The Class-Path:-thing. Is it per Name: (class) or per jar-file?
>
>
> What exact
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have now read this. Not very much of a documentation so I have some
> questions... :)
>
> The Class-Path:-thing. Is it per Name: (class) or per jar-file?
What exactly do you mean with "Name: (class)" ?
> > This whole thing seems to me very br
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > No Class-Path at all whenever possible.. remember the example that Xalan2 provides
>a Xalan1-compatibility layer - it Xalan2 must be included, we can satisfy all
>Xalan1-dependencies with that library (with lower precedence). Not possible with
On Sat, Nov 10, 2001 at 01:08:42PM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
> On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I have now read this. Not very much of a documentation so I have some
> > questions... :)
> >
> > The Class-Path:-thing. Is it per Name: (class) or per jar-file?
>
>
> What exac
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have now read this. Not very much of a documentation so I have some
> questions... :)
>
> The Class-Path:-thing. Is it per Name: (class) or per jar-file?
What exactly do you mean with "Name: (class)" ?
> > This whole thing seems to me very b
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 05:22:50PM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
> On 0, Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How about using the jar manifest to store the jar metadata, as Sun
> > intended? Make the jars their own database. A platform-independent
> > database :)
>
>
> Jeff, your idea sound
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 05:22:50PM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
> On 0, Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > How about using the jar manifest to store the jar metadata, as Sun
> > intended? Make the jars their own database. A platform-independent
> > database :)
>
>
> Jeff, your idea soun
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 06:19:52PM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
> On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I just noticed I mixed library references in Manifest files and Java
> > > extensions, but they are similar, and as far as I know them, they're not
> > > good. If anyone feels the
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 06:19:52PM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
> On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I just noticed I mixed library references in Manifest files and Java
> > > extensions, but they are similar, and as far as I know them, they're not
> > > good. If anyone feels th
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just noticed I mixed library references in Manifest files and Java
> > extensions, but they are similar, and as far as I know them, they're not
> > good. If anyone feels they're sufficient for our problems, please explain
> > :-)
>
> I'm not v
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:54:00PM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
> On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:46:53AM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
> > I think so yes. I have not tested it though. Maybe it solves that
> > issue, and maybe not. Anyway this is a java
On 0, Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about using the jar manifest to store the jar metadata, as Sun
> intended? Make the jars their own database. A platform-independent
> database :)
Jeff, your idea sounds nice, and I would really like to see Debian define the
new Java manifest fi
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I just noticed I mixed library references in Manifest files and Java
> > extensions, but they are similar, and as far as I know them, they're not
> > good. If anyone feels they're sufficient for our problems, please explain :-)
>
> I'm not very
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 10:51:01AM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
[..]
>
> At first, we need a library database (applications will be put there,
> too). Maybe just a path containing a description file for every
> library, whatever you may call database. Every Java library and every
> Java applicatio
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 12:54:00PM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
> On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:46:53AM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
> > I think so yes. I have not tested it though. Maybe it solves that
> > issue, and maybe not. Anyway this is a jav
On 0, Jeff Turner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about using the jar manifest to store the jar metadata, as Sun
> intended? Make the jars their own database. A platform-independent
> database :)
Jeff, your idea sounds nice, and I would really like to see Debian define the new Java
manifest f
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 10:51:01AM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
[..]
>
> At first, we need a library database (applications will be put there,
> too). Maybe just a path containing a description file for every
> library, whatever you may call database. Every Java library and every
> Java applicati
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:46:53AM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
> I think so yes. I have not tested it though. Maybe it solves that
> issue, and maybe not. Anyway this is a java2 thing so we have to make
> a wrapper (or similar mechanism) for java1.
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:46:53AM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
I'm sorry. I think I forgot to mail to the list. Thanks for getting the
thread back on the list. :)
> On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm a bit curious. In what way is the java extension mechanism useless?
>
> Th
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a bit curious. In what way is the java extension mechanism useless?
The extension mechanism is only there to solve one problem: setting classpath.
It does not care about all the other stuff I mentioned. What should I write in
my Applet's Mani
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:46:53AM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
> I think so yes. I have not tested it though. Maybe it solves that
> issue, and maybe not. Anyway this is a java2 thing so we have to make
> a wrapper (or similar mechanism) for java1
On Fri, Nov 09, 2001 at 11:46:53AM +0100, Max Kellermann wrote:
I'm sorry. I think I forgot to mail to the list. Thanks for getting the
thread back on the list. :)
> On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm a bit curious. In what way is the java extension mechanism useless?
>
> T
On 0, Ola Lundqvist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm a bit curious. In what way is the java extension mechanism useless?
The extension mechanism is only there to solve one problem: setting classpath. It does
not care about all the other stuff I mentioned. What should I write in my Applet's
Man
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