Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Java-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-13 Thread Thomas Aeby
On Fri, 2004-03-12 at 03:07, Tom Tromey wrote: [just jumping in] > The primary thing is freedom. > Based on what you say, it sounds like we have different priorities > here. This is one of the core questions: Is some library that will only work with one single Java-lookalike-but-GPL'd runtime envi

Re: [Sablevm-developer] Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Java-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-13 Thread Etienne Gagnon
Momchil Velikov wrote: How about asking Sun to support CNI then ? Because it's they who limit your "freedoom of choice", by supporting only one (the technically inferior, AIUI) interface. Who says that JNI is technically inferior than CNI technically? As a JVM specialist, I can say that it is no

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Java-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-12 Thread Cedric Berger
Momchil Velikov wrote: How about asking Sun to support CNI then ? Because it's they who limit your "freedoom of choice", by supporting only one (the technically inferior, AIUI) interface. Bleah They technically cannot support it. CNI doesn't work with precise copying collectors, AFAIK. Cedric

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Java-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-12 Thread Momchil Velikov
> "Elias" == Elias Martenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Elias> fre 2004-03-12 klockan 03.07 skrev Tom Tromey: >> Second, for me at least, the primary consideration isn't the features, >> the performance, or any facet of the implementation (including even >> AOT compilation if it comes to tha

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Java-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-12 Thread Elias Martenson
fre 2004-03-12 klockan 03.07 skrev Tom Tromey: > > "Elias" == Elias Martenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Elias> Going CNI-only would severely limit the number of 3'rd > Elias> party component you'd be able to integrate. > > You can mix and match CNI and JNI in a single process. This ha

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Java-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-11 Thread Tom Tromey
> "Elias" == Elias Martenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Elias> Going CNI-only would severely limit the number of 3'rd Elias> party component you'd be able to integrate. You can mix and match CNI and JNI in a single process. This happens any time you use JNI in libgcj. Maybe you meant to sa

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Java-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-11 Thread Alessandro Polverini
I'm not a contributor too, but I'm a (quite experienced) java developer. I just want to subscribe everything Elias wrote on this mail, I completely agree. Thanks, Alex On Thu, 2004-03-11 at 20:04, Elias Martenson wrote: > tor 2004-03-11 klockan 18.44 skrev Mark Howard: > > Dear Java Developers,

Re: [Java-gnome-developer] Java-Gnome: jni or cni

2004-03-11 Thread Elias Martenson
tor 2004-03-11 klockan 18.44 skrev Mark Howard: > Dear Java Developers, > > I am writing to you on behalf of the java-gnome project for advice > regarding a major change we are currently considering. I apologise if > this is off topic for this mailing list but we really need input and you > are th