Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2018-04-04 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 04.04.2018 um 10:24 schrieb Emmanuel Bourg: > Le 04/04/2018 à 09:48, Matthias Klose a écrit : > >> I wouldn't spend any time on that. We are moving towards 11, and openjfx is >> split out there. So yes, maybe packages have to drop openjfx support for >> some time. > > +1, Oracle has announced

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2018-04-04 Thread tony mancill
On Wed, Apr 04, 2018 at 11:15:59AM +0200, Bas Couwenberg wrote: > On 2018-04-04 10:24, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > > Le 04/04/2018 à 09:48, Matthias Klose a écrit : > > > > > I wouldn't spend any time on that. We are moving towards 11, and > > > openjfx is > > > split out there. So yes, maybe packages

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2018-04-04 Thread Bas Couwenberg
On 2018-04-04 10:24, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: Le 04/04/2018 à 09:48, Matthias Klose a écrit : I wouldn't spend any time on that. We are moving towards 11, and openjfx is split out there. So yes, maybe packages have to drop openjfx support for some time. +1, Oracle has announced last month [1] t

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2018-04-04 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 04/04/2018 à 09:48, Matthias Klose a écrit : > I wouldn't spend any time on that. We are moving towards 11, and openjfx is > split out there. So yes, maybe packages have to drop openjfx support for some > time. +1, Oracle has announced last month [1] that JavaFX would be decoupled from Java 1

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2018-04-04 Thread Matthias Klose
On 04.04.2018 07:10, Sebastiaan Couwenberg wrote: > On 10/23/2017 01:00 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: >> Le 22/10/2017 à 12:57, Matthias Klose a écrit : >>> (C) looks like the best workaround for now. Looking at at least four >>> security >>> releases per year, and maybe the double amount of package

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2018-04-03 Thread Sebastiaan Couwenberg
On 10/23/2017 01:00 AM, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Le 22/10/2017 à 12:57, Matthias Klose a écrit : >> (C) looks like the best workaround for now. Looking at at least four >> security >> releases per year, and maybe the double amount of package uploads, the >> OpenJDK >> package has a higher upload

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2017-10-24 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 24/10/2017 à 09:09, 殷啟聰 | Kai-Chung Yan a écrit : > Why not keep the source package name as "openjfx" and then name the binary > package "openjdk-9-jfx"? src:openjfx can't be reused for OpenJFX 9, because I need it to backport OpenJFX 8 updates for Stretch. Emmanuel Bourg

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2017-10-24 Thread 殷啟聰 | Kai-Chung Yan
Why not keep the source package name as "openjfx" and then name the binary package "openjdk-9-jfx"? Emmanuel Bourg 於 2017年10月23日 07:00 寫道: > Le 22/10/2017 à 12:57, Matthias Klose a écrit : > >> Are you aware if upstream is aware of these issues, and if they intend to >> stop >> using internal Op

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2017-10-23 Thread David Goodenough
On Thursday, 12 October 2017 13:13:44 BST Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Hi all, > > I started working on OpenJFX 9 this week. The good news is that it > builds fine in Debian now [1]. The bad news is that it's going to be > significantly more challenging to integrate it with our OpenJDK package. > > Wi

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2017-10-22 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 22/10/2017 à 12:57, Matthias Klose a écrit : > Are you aware if upstream is aware of these issues, and if they intend to stop > using internal OpenJDK APIs? Any plans to get rid off the single file approach > for the database files? I don't know. At least they are aware that OpenJFX fails to b

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2017-10-22 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 22.10.2017 um 21:32 schrieb Mykola Nikishov: > Markus Koschany writes: > >> Indeed D is not really an option and would be the end for Netbeans, >> pdfsam, mediathekview and a future Eclipse version. I wonder how other >> distributions like Fedora will deal with this issue in the future. > > M

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2017-10-22 Thread Mykola Nikishov
Markus Koschany writes: > Indeed D is not really an option and would be the end for Netbeans, > pdfsam, mediathekview and a future Eclipse version. I wonder how other > distributions like Fedora will deal with this issue in the future. Markus, could you elaborate on 'a future Eclipse version'? I

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2017-10-22 Thread Markus Koschany
Am 22.10.2017 um 17:27 schrieb 殷啟聰 | Kai-Chung Yan: > (D) doesn't seem good to me, since lot of apps are using JavaFX (e.g. > NetBeans and Bisq). These apps won't even launch using Debian's default JRE > if OpenJFX isn't included, which would be quite annoying to some users. Indeed D is not real

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2017-10-22 Thread 殷啟聰 | Kai-Chung Yan
(D) doesn't seem good to me, since lot of apps are using JavaFX (e.g. NetBeans and Bisq). These apps won't even launch using Debian's default JRE if OpenJFX isn't included, which would be quite annoying to some users. Matthias Klose 於 2017年10月22日 18:57 寫道: > On 12.10.2017 13:13, Emmanuel Bourg w

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2017-10-22 Thread Matthias Klose
On 12.10.2017 13:13, Emmanuel Bourg wrote: > Hi all, > > I started working on OpenJFX 9 this week. The good news is that it > builds fine in Debian now [1]. The bad news is that it's going to be > significantly more challenging to integrate it with our OpenJDK package. > > With OpenJDK 8 the inte

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2017-10-17 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Le 17/10/2017 à 17:18, 殷啟聰 | Kai-Chung Yan a écrit : > Although I like Plan C, it has more issues like: > >   * Circular build-dependency between openjdk and openjfx (or there is > already one?) True but I don't think this is really a problem. The OpenJFX integration could be disabled in openjd

Re: OpenJFX 9 integration

2017-10-17 Thread 殷啟聰 | Kai-Chung Yan
Hello Emmanuel, Thank you for your hard work on OpenJFX! Although I like Plan C, it has more issues like:   * Circular build-dependency between openjdk and openjfx (or there is already one?)   * Strange versioning pattern of openjdk rebuilds. (9~b181-5+ vs 9~b181-5+b1) Looks like the extensib

OpenJFX 9 integration

2017-10-12 Thread Emmanuel Bourg
Hi all, I started working on OpenJFX 9 this week. The good news is that it builds fine in Debian now [1]. The bad news is that it's going to be significantly more challenging to integrate it with our OpenJDK package. With OpenJDK 8 the integration was just a matter of installing extra jar files a