Re: make-jpkg not working with current Java 1.6 & Faking Java on Linux Distros

2006-05-21 Thread Blackwell
if that page should "help" Debian users, why do you use examples from other distributions? If you want to "help", why don't you differentiate between java versions, gcj versions and different releases? Did you check with recent versions of the these implemenations? Why start that page with "why

Re: make-jpkg not working with current Java 1.6 & Faking Java on Linux Distros

2006-05-20 Thread Matthias Klose
Blackwell writes: > Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Blackwell a écrit : > > [...] > > > >> Arnaud, I realize that you folks are working on Debian for free. But > >> that for me is not an acceptable excuse for any kind of decision, > >> because

Re: make-jpkg not working with current Java 1.6 & Faking Java on Linux Distros

2006-05-20 Thread Blackwell
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Blackwell a écrit : [...] Arnaud, I realize that you folks are working on Debian for free. But that for me is not an acceptable excuse for any kind of decision, because what you are doing may (and does) affect me and other p

Re: make-jpkg not working with current Java 1.6 & Faking Java on Linux Distros

2006-05-17 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Blackwell a écrit : [...] > Arnaud, I realize that you folks are working on Debian for free. But > that for me is not an acceptable excuse for any kind of decision, > because what you are doing may (and does) affect me and other people - > even die-har

Re: make-jpkg not working with current Java 1.6 & Faking Java on Linux Distros

2006-05-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 16/05/2006 02:04:57, Barry Hawkins wrote: Jeroen and I are indeed maintaining it, and we are interested in the change, but Java(TM) 6 will be far more relevant when it is released. Perhaps you could provide information that helps us understand the benefit you perceive in packaging a beta

Re: make-jpkg not working with current Java 1.6 & Faking Java on Linux Distros

2006-05-15 Thread Barry Hawkins
On Sun, May 14, 2006 at 03:39:11PM +0200, Blackwell wrote: > Arnaud Vandyck wrote: > >>1) Too work intense approach to integrate Sun Java? > >> > > > >http://www.us.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-dfsg > >http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch5.html#s-license-concer

Re: make-jpkg not working with current Java 1.6 & Faking Java on Linux Distros

2006-05-14 Thread Blackwell
Arnaud Vandyck wrote: 1) Too work intense approach to integrate Sun Java? http://www.us.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-dfsg http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch5.html#s-license-concerns Hello Arnaud, Debian is integrating Sun JDK/JRE via some package.

Re: make-jpkg not working with current Java 1.6 & Faking Java on Linux Distros

2006-05-08 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
or your work in advance. > 2) Faking Java on modern Linux distros: > > This may seem like the place for a complaint too: [not sure ;-)] > Can everyone please stop placing executables called "java" and "javac" > which are not Java on Linux distributions? Java

make-jpkg not working with current Java 1.6 & Faking Java on Linux Distros

2006-04-29 Thread Blackwell
too: Can everyone please stop placing executables called "java" and "javac" which are not Java on Linux distributions? Java has enough issues, adding to them like this is not helping, rather the opposite. (It doesn't help conveying a professional image of the Linux distribu

Re: Java on Linux

2001-03-01 Thread Matthias Wieser
One more thing: sdk and jdk are packaged for debian -> see blackdown :) ( http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html to find your nearest mirror) Ciao mattHias -- __ _ __ * /\_/\ \ \_/ \_/ / * Matthias Wieser * / \ \ /

Re: Java on Linux

2001-03-01 Thread Alexander Hvostov
Evan, That presents a problem. Java itself is free, but Sun's implementation is not. For this reason, forcing all packages which depend on `java-virtual-machine' or whatever is pretty unfair. Packages that depend specifically on Sun's implementation, however, belong in contrib. Regards, Alex. -

Re: Java on Linux

2001-03-01 Thread Matthias Wieser
One more thing: sdk and jdk are packaged for debian -> see blackdown :) ( http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux/mirrors.html to find your nearest mirror) Ciao mattHias -- __ _ __ * /\_/\ \ \_/ \_/ / * Matthias Wieser * / \ \ /

Re: Java on Linux

2001-03-01 Thread Artur Radosz
Evan Prodromou wrote: "AR" == Artur Radosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AR> But it will be good to have this in debian dist. This and AR> others java lib, applications or systems. It can't be in Debian, since it's not DFSG-Free. If it can be legally redistributed with Debian, though, it can

Re: Java on Linux

2001-03-01 Thread Alexander Hvostov
Evan, That presents a problem. Java itself is free, but Sun's implementation is not. For this reason, forcing all packages which depend on `java-virtual-machine' or whatever is pretty unfair. Packages that depend specifically on Sun's implementation, however, belong in contrib. Regards, Alex.

Re: Java on Linux

2001-03-01 Thread Evan Prodromou
> "AR" == Artur Radosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AR> But it will be good to have this in debian dist. This and AR> others java lib, applications or systems. It can't be in Debian, since it's not DFSG-Free. If it can be legally redistributed with Debian, though, it can go in non-fre

Re: Java on Linux

2001-03-01 Thread Artur Radosz
Colin Michael Yates wrote: Hi, Maybe I have missed the point (getting ready to be flamed :-)) but what is the problem of downloading the Sun JDK and running it on Linux? It is very easy to configure and use, and although slow, it is very reliable? Yes, it`s true. Even if you can't distribute Sun's

Java on Linux

2001-03-01 Thread Colin Michael Yates
Hi, Maybe I have missed the point (getting ready to be flamed :-)) but what is the problem of downloading the Sun JDK and running it on Linux? It is very easy to configure and use, and although slow, it is very reliable? Even if you can't distribute Sun's JDK with Debian, you can still *use* the

Re: Java on Linux

2001-03-01 Thread Artur Radosz
Evan Prodromou wrote: >> "AR" == Artur Radosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > AR> But it will be good to have this in debian dist. This and > AR> others java lib, applications or systems. > > It can't be in Debian, since it's not DFSG-Free. > > If it can be legally redistrib

Re: Java on Linux

2001-03-01 Thread Evan Prodromou
> "AR" == Artur Radosz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AR> But it will be good to have this in debian dist. This and AR> others java lib, applications or systems. It can't be in Debian, since it's not DFSG-Free. If it can be legally redistributed with Debian, though, it can go in non-fr

Re: Java on Linux

2001-03-01 Thread Artur Radosz
Colin Michael Yates wrote: > Hi, > > Maybe I have missed the point (getting ready to be flamed :-)) but what is > the problem of downloading the Sun JDK and running it on Linux? It is very > easy to configure and use, and although slow, it is very reliable? Yes, it`s true. > > Even if you ca

Java on Linux

2001-03-01 Thread Colin Michael Yates
Hi, Maybe I have missed the point (getting ready to be flamed :-)) but what is the problem of downloading the Sun JDK and running it on Linux? It is very easy to configure and use, and although slow, it is very reliable? Even if you can't distribute Sun's JDK with Debian, you can still *use* th

Re: Java on linux questions

1999-11-22 Thread Ean R . Schuessler
On Mon, Nov 15, 1999 at 11:46:52AM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > Kaffe fails for every non-trivial program. I'm running Jigsaw on it, which is a 10 Meg distribution and reasonably non-trivial. I'm also using it for a clustered tuple-space managed web server infrastructure that we've built he

Re: Java on linux questions

1999-11-15 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Friday 12 November 1999, at 17 h 8, the keyboard of Dave Swegen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > linux if at all possible. So my main question is: What is the state of java > under linux? Under Linux, I don't know. Under Debian, you have a nice set of free and good Java compilers in the current

Java on linux questions

1999-11-12 Thread Dave Swegen
Next week my MSc's java course is starting, and I'd like to do it under linux if at all possible. So my main question is: What is the state of java under linux? I don't believe we'll be doing anything exceptionally complex (the final program for the course will be a simple drawing program AFAIK). I